AP Headline from 2004? "Kenyan-born Obama"

I found the above mentioned link on this page in the comments section posted by John Charlton. If I can do the link from that page you should be able to also.

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reply to post by glitchinmymatrix

Common sense and intuition can often determine fraud and false election. Most people are not capable of this it seems. So, you get another Bush or Obama who further controls you.

Common sense and the Birther movement don't belong in the same galaxy as each other. In fact I believe the actual dictionary definition opposite to common sense is Birther

Example? Any evidence by sources that are actually credible are immediately dismissed, but obscure African papers that say Kenyan Born Obama are met like they are the holy grail.

Reality has no meaning to Birthers, if you try and interject some into a discussion they will look at you like you have two heads.

reply to post by whatukno


You know what i dont get get Wukky, is why anyone cares where someone is born. Its such a false sword, whether constitutional or not, in this day and age, a place of birth should really be completley irrelavant.
Such desparation...sigh~

I don't have the time or inclination to read through 21 pages of this topic, but I did come across a second 2004 article saying the same thing, in case no one else linked it already:

Obama basks in glory as he rallies support

Thursday, July 29, 2004
By Waweru Mugo and Agencies

The US Senate candidate of Kenyan descent, Mr Barack Obama, electrified the crowd at the Democratic Party’s convention held to endorse John Kerry as President Bush’s challenger at the November election.
The keynote speaker at the Democratic National Convention in Boston, Obama had a message of hope and optimism.
In his finest hour, the crowd rose to its feet with thunderous applause, as a sea of "Obama" signs waved in the air, and delegates chanted, "Obama! Obama! Obama!"
Born of a Kenyan father, Mr Hussein Onyango Obama, Obama Jnr has been described by Congressman Jesse Jackson Junior as the "best our community has ever produced".

reply to post by whatukno


Boy, you sure got that right. The only thing more alarming is that the head honchos at ATS deemed this topic worthy of putting the headline in GIANT YELLOW TEXT on the recent posts page.

I'd assume that given so much truth has been given to this article, and the assumption this author somehow got his or her facts, as opposed to others... wouldnt it be common sense to contact this guy, or the newspaper and request the source for this claim of theirs?

I mean this thread has been up for what 2 days now? And yet all we see are individuals willynelly assuming this article is a smoking gun, why are there so many reluctant to get in direct contact? It may cost ya given the international calls, the tracking down, but surely... if this is such a constitutional smoking gun for Obama, the little cost wouldnt matter...so.... has anybody verified the articles sources? of claim?

Originally posted by defcon5
I don't have the time or inclination to read through 21 pages of this topic, but I did come across a second 2004 article saying the same thing, in case no one else linked it already:

Actually, that doesn't say the same thing at all!!!

Obama basks in glory as he rallies support

Thursday, July 29, 2004
By Waweru Mugo and Agencies

The US Senate candidate of Kenyan descent, Mr Barack Obama, electrified the crowd at the Democratic Party’s convention held to endorse John Kerry as President Bush’s challenger at the November election.
The keynote speaker at the Democratic National Convention in Boston, Obama had a message of hope and optimism.
In his finest hour, the crowd rose to its feet with thunderous applause, as a sea of "Obama" signs waved in the air, and delegates chanted, "Obama! Obama! Obama!"
Born of a Kenyan father, Mr Hussein Onyango Obama, Obama Jnr has been described by Congressman Jesse Jackson Junior as the "best our community has ever produced".

Emphasis added. In fact, further down in the article you link to, it says

Obama, who was born in Hawaii and grew up in Chicago, is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard University Law School.

reply to post by Southern Guardian


sure I would glady ctc the journo if someone can tell me who it is, as i posted before i cant find the article in the AP archives where it came from originally.
The Eaststandard article lists no author.
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reply to post by JoshNorton

you are correct.
I guess I should have read the whole thing...

Obama, who was born in Hawaii and grew up in Chicago, is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard University Law School.

I think they are mixing up decent with “born” in the OP's article.

[edit on 10/16/2009 by defcon5]

reply to post by zazzafrazz


In this particular case it's relevant because the constitution requires the president to be a natural born citizen. The framers of the constitution did this so that people that were born in other countries and would therefore have a predisposition of loyalty to that country wouldn't betray the United States to foreign governments.

But when birthers latch a hold of anything and call it the proof they need it's sad. There is no Kenyan birth certificate. There is no legitimate proof except newspaper reports from Africa. What is sad about this is that it may just be the way things are looked at. Obama's father WAS Kenyan, they may feel that Obama is the son of Kenya. It's about Pride so they say Kenyan born, because of the close proximity to them by virtue of his father.

Put it this way, how many African Americans actually know what country their ancestors came from? Obama knows he has roots in Kenya. The land of his fathers birth, part of Obama will always be Kenyan because that is the land of his father's birth.

[edit on 10/16/2009 by whatukno]

reply to post by zazzafrazz


That link you sent me Zazz is broken as well... but yes I have been searching around and could not find any memory of such an article. Surely if it was archived it would have popped up somewhere...

I got this from a friend online:

________________________________

I just purchased the2 AP articles that appear to feed into the Standard article.

There is of course no reference to:

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival,

The bulk of the article is extracted from a AP report "Ryan drops out of race for Illinois Senate amid damaging sex club allegations" dated 26th June 2004,although with some minor editing.

The last paragraph may be a slightly edited version of a paragraph in a AP report : "Illinois Senate candidate under pressure to drop out over sex-club allegations " dated 25 June 2004. However since it claims to be a quote from a Ryan radio interview it could have come from other sources.

Intruigingly the Standard article includes 3 paragraphs that don't appear in any AP report so goodness knows where they came from:

The Republican state committee must now choose a replacement for Ryan, who had won in the primaries against seven contenders. Its task is complicated by the fact that Obama holds a comfortable lead in the polls and is widely regarded as a rising Democratic star.

The chairwoman of the Illinois Republican Party, Judy Topinka, said at a news conference, after Ryan withdrew, that Republicans would probably take several weeks to settle on a new candidate.

"Obviously, this is a bad week for our party and our state," she said

________________________________________________

Now obviously people can purchase from an AP source and see for themselves though... the only way to verify anything of this article is to pay up a little.... but according to a source of mine no article could be found from any official Associated press source. I welcome anybody here to correct me if they did manage to find the article beyond the archives. Surely if its from AP it would pop up.

Originally posted by zazzafrazz
reply to post by whatukno

 

You know what i dont get get Wukky, is why anyone cares where someone is born. Its such a false sword, whether constitutional or not, in this day and age, a place of birth should really be completely irrelevant.
Such desperation...sigh~

And that's why I'm glad you weren't part of the original constitution.

You see, the worlds history shows that it has ALWAYS mattered where you were born. It has always mattered where your roots are dug in.

Am I in agreement with you that it SHOULDN'T matter? yes... but it does.

Brilliant men wrote the constitution and the reasons for the president being natural born wasn't just put in there because it sounded good. It was put there because of what those men had seen and knew what could happen and knew that someone natural born to another country would be under pressure externally and internally to show favor in places where favor was not focused on America. As a leader for a country in this modern setup, that is wrong.

I do wish this whole thing would be put to rest by our president by just providing the proof as needed. instead as time goes by and no OFFICIAL document is provided by Hawaii for simple verification outside of closed vault, the simple solidarity and peace of mind of the United states will be split. Obama has allowed the"birther" movement to fester and that IN ITSELF is a conspiracy of diversion. Really, with as much news as it's gotten, a true "go get em" president would have simply called Hawaii to request the document be provided. What is so FRIKKING hard with that?

It's not hard.. that's why I trust him even less and if it ever were to come true that PROOF of him being Kenyan born were to surface, I would hope for him to be removed immediately.


b


[edit on 16-10-2009 by Bspiracy]

So now there are 3 article that claim Obama was born in Kenya:

The OP
The NPR Article
and
The Nigerian Observer Article

Am I missing any?

To add a bit more conspiracy:

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Google’s archive shows Obama’s birth story has changed October 15, 2009 by John Charlton FIRST ONE STORY, THEN ANOTHER — Has Google scrubbed its own News Archive? by John Charlton

I can't adequately summarize the article, but here's a tidbit:

Then, you would not believe it; but all the newspapers in the world, during the period from Jan. 1, 2005 to April 12, 2006, don’t make one mention of Obama! Not even one.

[edit on 10/16/2009 by sad_eyed_lady]

Originally posted by zazzafrazz
reply to post by whatukno

 

You know what i dont get get Wukky, is why anyone cares where someone is born. Its such a false sword, whether constitutional or not, in this day and age, a place of birth should really be completley irrelavant.
Such desparation...sigh~

You mean the day and age where over 1 in 10 Americans is unemployed because domestic corporations with a globalist view exported tens upon tens of millions of American jobs overseas to break up the labor unions and reduce their wage costs and pad their bottom lines?

You mean the day and age where America no longer has any heavy industry except for defense and aerospace that the citizens get to pay for with their tax dollars and rack up insane national debt to boot to keep paying for all these weapons and associated technology that are used then in far away nations who have never attacked us to secure governments who then award big contracts to the nations that loan the American Government the money so that the citizens can pay it back later for all the military aggression that profits no one in the U.S. except for the Military Industrial Complex?

Or did you mean in this day and age of political correctness where 24 hour a day news broadcasts serve us up constant and nonstop doses of fear and anger and the politically correct way to respond with those emotions and who it is politically correct to support them with and how, and against whom and how in relation to how we spend trillions of dollars aiding other nations and fighting endless imperial foreign wars?

Is that why it would no longer make a difference it’s not even an American Citizen running the United States?

Wake up, America is being destroyed from within by our own corporations and government who could care less about the quality of life for Americans in America.

It very much should matter because there is little chance in the world a Kenyan is going to reverse those destructive and annihilating tides and fortunes and so far he sure hasn’t. More troops to Afghanistan, more bailouts to the Bankers, more jobs lost and exported, none being created and no plans on the books to create any.

The United States Congress needs to act on this issue and get to all the facts of it and there is no excuse for them not doing so and there is no excuse for a man who wants to lead the United States of America to not comply and cooperate.

Anyone who really thinks different is what has created the standards that have allowed for America to degrade into what it has become and continues to further degrade in to; an unconstitutional police state.


[edit on 16/10/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

This thread is great!!!!!

Its hilarious watching you yanks get so worked up over this!!!!



Thanks Scoob, S & F

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
So now there are 3 article that claim Obama was born in Kenya:

The OP
The NPR Article
and
The Nigerian Observer Article

Am I missing any?

Your missing 100's of articles that claim he was in Hawaii, confirmation from the state of Hawaii that his Hawaiian BC is authentic and the deafening silence from the Bush administration, Hillary and McCain campaigns. Thats what your missing out.

I'd be happy to have a comparison of whats what.

SG

reply to post by Bspiracy

I do wish this whole thing would be put to rest by our president by just providing the proof as needed. instead as time goes by and no OFFICIAL document is provided by Hawaii for simple verification outside of closed vault, the simple solidarity and peace of mind of the United states will be split. Obama has allowed the"birther" movement to fester and that IN ITSELF is a conspiracy of diversion. Really, with as much news as it's gotten, a true "go get em" president would have simply called Hawaii to request the document be provided. What is so FRIKKING hard with that?

I know, I mean how hard would it be to put his verified and certified COLB on the internet for everyone to view right? I mean that would end this debate once and for all if he somehow managed to put his legitimate COLB on the internet. Man I just don't know how he could just ignore all these Americans and not put his COLB online with verification from the state of Hawaii that it was genuine.

I mean if only there was a way we could all see for sure.

[edit on 10/16/2009 by whatukno]

You know, I wouldn't mind seeing some articles from 2003-2004 that talk about Obama's "Hawaiian" birthplace. Any after this controversy started don't count, so don't bother.

reply to post by Southern Guardian


I added a bit more to the above post. Would you like to comment on it?

He speaks with no accent why are these reports assuming he was born in Kenya?. Every reporter knows "assume: is defined as "ass" out of "u" and "me".

Maybe these older news stories were based on old archives that we don't have access to. See my post above for possible explanation


[edit on 10/16/2009 by sad_eyed_lady]

reply to post by TrueAmerican


I know like a birth announcement made back in 1961. There has got to be a way.