AP Headline from 2004? "Kenyan-born Obama"

reply to post by christianpatrick


I managed to conduct a search without the need of registration?

reply to post by neformore

If you americans didn't have this crazy penchance for giving your kids the same name as your own and adding a number on the end of it, life would be so much easier,

Well, as you quote that daddy was Kenyan. how have you leapt to a conclusion of American craziness at giving kids the same name as the Kenyan daddy? Surely it should be Kenyan 'craziness.'
I would like evidence that he ever legally changed his name back from Barry Soetoro. Or is he just going with the family tradition of using any name or alias they like, illegal or not?

Ya know this is when the one line rule just bombs.

Why? Because IMO there's only one word, not even a line, to describe this.

HOGWASH

I mean come off it.
This would have been found AGES ago.

Just more disinfo crap this is.

peace

reply to post by Southern Guardian


Yes SG Taitz and Berg are asshats. But the funny thing is this is the first court case that has gone beyond the BULL#-no standing defense-by the Obama Team. I just want an answer, do you? Would you like to see and end to the questions? I would.

Their are other questions I would like answered. Like why the Dem faithful are not questioning the wars? Why are the Dem faithful not questioning transparency? Why are the faithful not asking anything that is the same as the last asshat?

Riddle me this.......If one party does something illegal like the Patriot Act.....why does the next expand on it and no one from their party says #?

I use to believe that Reagan was a great president until I actually started to research his presidency. Why will not one Dem faithful admit the lobbyist and Dem-Repub paradigm?

Anyone that actually believes the Dems or Repubs gives a rat's ass about the American People over their own or their sugar daddy's positions is asleep at the wheel or a part of the problem.

reply to post by silo13


Maybe you should read the entire thread, your post has been done about three times. Maybe that is why the thread is 22 pages long. Yes, the birther question is getting redundant. But ask yourself why the Google searches have been scrubbed for so many years if you do searches? This was missed due to the fact that the name was misspelled. Conjecture, but a perfectly plausible situation. Google has been used to manipulate the China net, could it not be used to scrub ours?

reply to post by endisnighe


I still think this would have been found out by Obama's rivals during the election. Don't you think they would have used this sort of information against Obama?

I don't buy into that whole NWO they rig elections and force candidates down our throats. If you believe that, you would then have to believe that even if Obama was born on Mars nothing would come of this and there would be nothing you could do about it.

The people that believe in this Hogwash, only do so because they want Obama out of office. They don't like (insert reason here) so they want him run out of office and they think this is the easiest way to do it.

These people embarrass the United States republic, they embarrass conspiracy theorists, they embarrass everyone with this non stop crap-a-thon.

reply to post by whatukno


I know what you are getting at. Up until I joined the site here, I thought where Obama was a deflection or an outright plant to distract us. But the more I research it and the little things that come out the more I want to dig in. Almost like an injury you cannot quite place what is wrong. Do you know what I mean? McCain was asked to show and exactly what is in your sig-why not show the fracking thing?

reply to post by endisnighe


He did, and guess what? No one believed it. So what is the point of showing the long form? Birthers wouldn't believe it anyway so what is the point?

One of the things that bothers me the most with these threads is the amount of assuming that goes on.

1. Some people ASSUME that certain government agencies would vet Obama before he would be allowed to take office, I have yet to see any information on the realities of that. That also ASSUMES that various government agencies (CIA/FBI/ect.) would, for whatever reason, do some sort of independent investigation into Obama's background. I have yet to see any information on the realities of THAT either. Hate to ASSUME myself, but the logical end thought of that is, that the various alphabet-soup agencies in America all answer to the same people as Obama, and one word from the right person, and there would be no investigation.

2. Some people ASSUME that the entirety of the government would have to be involved for a 'conspiracy' of this 'magnitude' to work. What these folks fail to realize, is that you wouldn't have to have the entire government in on it, you would simply have to have the small group, or even individuals responsible for the vetting process in on it. Everyone else, would most likely fall in line, and take what those persons responsible for the vetting at their word, why would anyone feel the need to question them at that time? After all, no one questioned any of this until the first rumors started.

3. Some people ASSUME that others in the political arena would have used this to their advantage at some point prior to now, if it were true. That thought, of course, also assumes that there really IS a difference between the left and the right, and that they all aren't shaking each others hands behind closed doors. It also assumes that this wasn't all planned from the beginning, and that you really do have a choice in your political 'representatives'.

In the end, I have seen very little reason to believe either side of this particular argument. Neither side seems willing to go the extra mile to confirm or deny, so what's left? Nothing good it seems, if this thread is any example. Finally, this IS a conspiracy website, and it seems to me that a whole lot of people seem to need to be reminded of that daily. I have to wonder why certain people are on this site if not to explore that focus?

Chrono

Look at 9\11 If they can cover up the truth there, they can cover up the truth about were someone was born.

reply to post by Chronogoblin


Actually if you read through the dozens of threads on this issue you will find that the people that don't believe this issue have gone the extra mile each and every time to track down the actual truth to the subject. While the people that are for this conspiracy rely mainly on WND and Orly Taitz for the bulk of their information.

The information is on here, it's just hard to find with all the bull dunk that clutters up the truth.

Wow im glad this got this big. That means that people really care about the general welfare and well being of the great country. Now if we could only get him the hell out of office

reply to post by kingoftheworld

Now if we could only get him the hell out of office

Exactly the only reason there is a Birther issue. It's the not so secret intent of the never ending crap-a-thon that is the Birther movement. To forcibly remove from office a politician that people don't agree with.

There is no actual search for truth in this. It's a witch hunt for a political figure that they don't like.

Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by kingoftheworld

 

Now if we could only get him the hell out of office

Exactly the only reason there is a Birther issue. It's the not so secret intent of the never ending crap-a-thon that is the Birther movement. To forcibly remove from office a politician that people don't agree with.

There is no actual search for truth in this. It's a witch hunt for a political figure that they don't like.

THANK YOU! This sums up my feelings exactly.


It's hypocritical because Bush was allowed to screw up for 8 years, and steal an election in the process. Obama's hasn't even been around for a year, and was basically handed a financial disaster but because things aren't happening as quickly as some peoples attention span want it to, he suddenly has to go.


I admit he's not perfect and there are quite a few policies I don't agree with because I do not have my head up his arse. I only come into these petty obama threads because the voice of reason needs some back-up singers, you feel me?

too many people jumping onto a bandwagon of crap and ignoring real issues.

Originally posted by whatukno
It's a witch hunt for a political figure that they don't like.

Got to agree with this.

The same was done for Bush as well. The only difference between the Bush years and now is that the political polarity has been reversed.

The "hater" movement has moved off the net and into mainstream political life.

And as I said above, rational thought has gone out of the window.

Originally posted by oneclickaway
Well, as you quote that daddy was Kenyan. how have you leapt to a conclusion of American craziness at giving kids the same name as the Kenyan daddy? Surely it should be Kenyan 'craziness.'

Last time I checked, his mother was American.

Do you think - maybe - that might have something to do with my conclusion?

Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by kingoftheworld

 

Now if we could only get him the hell out of office

Exactly the only reason there is a Birther issue. It's the not so secret intent of the never ending crap-a-thon that is the Birther movement. To forcibly remove from office a politician that people don't agree with.

There is no actual search for truth in this. It's a witch hunt for a political figure that they don't like.

Right. It isn't about the possible threat to our nation in having a President who is completely controlled under threat of exposure as well as possibly being a foreign citizen.

I would think you would know that birth certificates, school transcripts, military service records and so on are public records. Anyone with the money to do so can go to the local courthouse and obtain copies of these documents.

Bush's transcripts and military records were obtained by hundreds of people and used for all kinds of political games.

Anyone who spends over a million to have their public records sealed has something to hide. What that something is deeply concerns some people. What next, are you going to claim everyone who has questions about this is secretly racist?

reply to post by endisnighe

Maybe you should read the entire thread, your post has been done about three times.

Who says I didn't read it?

Just because it's been posted before I'm supposed to dummy up?

Get away from me.

This is nothing more than BS and the more people who VOICE it's BS maybe it will get through the thick skulls of the ignorant.

peace


[edit on 16-10-2009 by silo13]

Originally posted by silo13
Ya know this is when the one line rule just bombs.

Why? Because IMO there's only one word, not even a line, to describe this.

HOGWASH

That was one word more than I thought this thread deserved.

Oh, well. So where is that boy stuck in a balloon thread?

[edit on 10/16/2009 by Hal9000]

reply to post by neformore


I can only speak for my position and its not from a political "hater" seat.
My real concern is in both of your points being made, the one pointing at Bush and as well as Obama, "Both" of these very very questionable elections were allowed to go openly and aggressively unchallenged.
Sure there were many questions and alot of discontent and alot of complaints fired everywhere yet in both cases, "nothing was done".
There is no standard or requirement held that involves proof.
It is what it has become, nothing more than a dog and pony show.
Its really not that hard to see what gets done to the collective mind of a nation or the world with mass media control, its such a great tool to have access to.
Things get done, people get put into place, agendas are made complete or new ones started and if the populace gets too riled up, a new threat or problem is blasted all over the news distracting attention away, and the problems never really get addressed.
Who's going to agree with playing musical chairs with the top seat when a war is breaking out, or a nation is "attacked" or a pandemic is coming and coming and coming, or better yet when a nation is so sick of the 8 years of crap then all the right things are "promised" once again by a new face a new energetic well spoken transparency promising new age JFK talking perfect looking "mixed black and white" unifying hope and change candidate, who gets overwhelmingly elected because the promises are soooooo strong and everyones sooooo sure "this is it" this is the big new change for tomorrow, and he's elected, and the only thing, the only thing that has changed is that the prior 8 years of policy have been augmented NOT diminished, the promises not realized not even close to being implemented, AND they control both houses??
Its hard to admit that "youve been FOOLED AGAIN"
yet that is exactly what happened.....
Bush/Kerry/Gore/Clinton/McCain/Obama=All the same
They answer to the same people, funded by the same people

and none of those people live on your street.