The MALE soapbox

reply to post by GypsK


I think that making a house a home is the most important job anyone can do. My husband works 6 days a week to make ends meet so whatever I can do to help is A Ok with me. Sometimes it would be nice to have a little help but for the most part I am cool with doing all the things I do. just don't complain when soemthing isn't done every once in a while cause I got a lot on my plate.
I really don't do much of anything except ATS but I don't really want to do anything anyhow. He hunts and fishes but it keeps him sane and happy and when he is happy so am I.

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Shoot....with me it is that simple. Leave me the hell alone and don't talk to me and we are all good. I don't want you to ask whats wrong, I know you care and if you really did you would understand that this is MY time, I don't want to be stuck up your arse for a week thats all, just gimme one week. I guess during that time my husnabd is enemy number 1 and I just want space cause I don't ever get it.
My husband has gotten WAAAYYY better at knowing when to back off but sometimes he too plays the card. I guess Ya'll just can't help it

Woman are utterly and completely insane!!!

If you afford them the luxuries of that insanity.
Your life will be better for it.

~watches his woman wiggle off laughing~


[edit on 14-10-2009 by The Utopian Penguin]

Alright, here's one that bugs me to no end.

We share intimate times together and I would like to think that you realize that it is private. As in not to be shared.

I don't tell my friends about our intimacy or what you like or don't like. It's just not done.

So when you tell your closest friends, and they start with the nudge nudge wink wink with me, and start sitting on my lap every time they come over,Don't take it out on me.!!!!!

I have done nothing wrong, you did, and now not only am I embarrassed, but find myself defending myself for something I have no control over.

And when you start the old, "if I were to die which one of my friends would you like yo be with"questions. Don't get mad if I answer you honestly. Don't go into a hissy fit and say things like, so you would rather be with her comments, and then storm out of the room. You asked!!!

And for God's sake, don't tell her. Again, embarrassing to me, and I feel like I can't even mention her without getting "the look". And forget ever thinking of laughing at her jokes, or god forbid, I talk to her.

Please keep our bedroom secrets secret, and any conversations that could create tension and embarrassment all around.

If you really have to tell someone that bad, have a conversation with the cat, please.

Originally posted by tribewilder
Alright, here's one that bugs me to no end.

We share intimate times together and I would like to think that you realize that it is private. As in not to be shared.

I don't tell my friends about our intimacy or what you like or don't like. It's just not done.

So when you tell your closest friends, and they start with the nudge nudge wink wink with me, and start sitting on my lap every time they come over,Don't take it out on me.!!!!!

I have done nothing wrong, you did, and now not only am I embarrassed, but find myself defending myself for something I have no control over.

And when you start the old, "if I were to die which one of my friends would you like yo be with"questions. Don't get mad if I answer you honestly. Don't go into a hissy fit and say things like, so you would rather be with her comments, and then storm out of the room. You asked!!!

And for God's sake, don't tell her. Again, embarrassing to me, and I feel like I can't even mention her without getting "the look". And forget ever thinking of laughing at her jokes, or god forbid, I talk to her.

Please keep our bedroom secrets secret, and any conversations that could create tension and embarrassment all around.

If you really have to tell someone that bad, have a conversation with the cat, please.

Your divorced right ?

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Haha best post so far. 100% with you on all that.

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Here you have it boys-
Inspired by the "Women are evil" thread...
Get up on your soapbox and let us have your best speech.
Anything you want us ladies to know about men in general..spill it.

Hmmm....I missed the women haters thread. How silly a thread that.

I can't speak for other men and I can't generalize. I can only speak for myself. I have always loved women. They're beautiful and shapely and etc. Women have always been my favorite subject to paint.

I've always been comfortable with my feminine side or perhaps my "inner woman." Growing up with two older sisters certainly helped but I have always had empathy and understanding for women.

In my punk days (17 to about 24)....I wore eye liner when I went out. It looked good and women loved it. On Halloween I would wear red lipstick even if that was all I wore out of the ordinary. Those were good days.

Women deal with periods...child bearing and birth. My wife is currently going through "the change." I would say I am quite patient with regards to the mood swings and her constant insistence that it's too hot in the house (and her dwindling desire to fool around).

Women tend to do more around the house and my house is no exception except that this is how she prefers it but I let her know all the time how much I appreciate her and all the things she does. She's one of those Type-A personalities that doesn't like the way I do things around the house anyway. I don't meet her high standards so she prefers to do most things herself. She still has to make it known that she does more around the house. Sometimes I remind her that most of the money being spent comes from me. She reminds me that that is not an apples to apples comparison. I ask her what does money have to do with fruit. (I ended this quickly as this argument portrayed here could get long and end up in a bad place. A man can never use how many hours he works or the money he makes or the stress it brings into any discussion...doesn't work).

Also....generally, a man can't win an argument with his wife. If he tries he causes the argument to continue. If he gives victory to the wife, then there is peace. Even if she is wrong, she is right.

Losing track of what my point was...anyway, I try not to sweat the small stuff. I don't know if I'm a good man or a bad man. I do know that I am a man. Just a man.





[edit on 14-10-2009 by Excitable_Boy]

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What a great post!!!!! You my friend have got it down! And yes...never bring money or hours worked blah blah blah into a converstion cause you'd be working with or without a woman. i think ya'll forget that sometimes.

[edit on 10/14/2009 by concerned190]

Originally posted by AccessDenied

Originally posted by martalen

Originally posted by AccessDenied
reply to post by SantaClaus

 

You like shoes, shopping, gossip, potpourri, and cosmos.. ...Let me ride my freakin motorcycle..

OK- I'm seriously checking my own gender here....
Maybe I'm not really a girl....

I'm with you, AD! I got some potpourri in a gift over two years ago and it's still sealed up, I'm not big on shoes or shopping (t-shirt/jeans/sneakers - good to go), don't like gossip. However, being a big SciFi fan, I do find the cosmos to be a pretty cool thing...

...just checked my gender and all my bits are where the hubz can fin 'em...


...hockey season, woot!

YAY! I's is not so alones now...

good to be reminded that not all of us are hard up because we don't fall full-on into our supposed "role"
though, none of us are alone. just some people go off splitting hairs about something so abstract and anti-individualistic as gender roles, they've forgotten that fact.
nevertheless, it's a fun game to play, as long as no one gets hurt

Originally posted by The Utopian Penguin
Woman are utterly and completely insane!!!

If you afford them the luxuries of that insanity.
Your life will be better for it.

~watches his woman wiggle off laughing~

It took me a while to understand what you wrote, but I finally did and couldn't agree more.

But what is it, that causes us to turn into such sniveling cowards, that we afford them these luxuries. We certainly wouldn't do it for anyone else.

At least I wouldn't.

But what is it, that causes us to turn into such sniveling cowards, that we afford them these luxuries.

One guess......I'd spell it out for you but I think I might get in trouble

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But you would guess wrong...seriously...:shk:

My woman's smile is more important to me than anything else....period..

And sshhhh...I knows whats your talkin bout, and I like that too..

Originally posted by tribewilder
reply to post by concerned190

 

But you would guess wrong...seriously...:shk:

My woman's smile is more important to me than anything else....period..

And sshhhh...I knows whats your talkin bout, and I like that too..

If she is happy, then everything else just falls into place doesn't it?
perhaps not.

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Finally...Somebody gets it!!!!!!

and yes, yes indeed, everything does fall into place and I get both the smile and the other thing...



[edit on 10/16/2009 by tribewilder]

Originally posted by tribewilder
reply to post by AccessDenied

 

Finally...Somebody gets it!!!!!!

and yes, yes indeed, everything does fall into place and I get both the smile and the other thing...

[edit on 10/16/2009 by tribewilder]

i get it- just don't smile much.

Originally posted by tribewilder

Originally posted by The Utopian Penguin
Woman are utterly and completely insane!!!

If you afford them the luxuries of that insanity.
Your life will be better for it.

~watches his woman wiggle off laughing~

It took me a while to understand what you wrote, but I finally did and couldn't agree more.

But what is it, that causes us to turn into such sniveling cowards, that we afford them these luxuries. We certainly wouldn't do it for anyone else.

At least I wouldn't.

I'm not A sniveling coward.

When I go out with my wife.
I never speak poorly of my girlfriend, my best friend,or my business partner.

Because,their always listening.
Even when were alone.

Well played penguin.

And I am very glad that you have found somebody that can be all those things for you, and vice versa.

Unfortunately there are quite a few that have thought what you did once upon a time, and are quite disheartened by the whole deal, and all they put into the relationship.

I truly hope that your relationship lasts far into your old age and only get's stronger, as it should. Kudos to you for finding that something special with a partner.

My ride was wonderful until I got thrown off the train, and I've finally decided to get up and run after it to get back on.

I want what you have.
Oh dear, I'm jealous of a penguin..:shk:

Okay, so I posted without doing directly to the original poster, because she's nice.

Did not want to offend her.

Yes means, yes, not no.

No means, no, not yes.

Do not bother to try to play guessing games with me, because I will ignore it, flat out.

It is not cute.

It is not cuddly.

It is not in the least entertaining.

Speak your God-damned mind and beware because I will speak mine as well.

Do not bitch about me to your girlfriends, and expect me to react how they or you believe I should based upon some crap expectations, because if you do you will find out just how pissed off I can become.

I know diplomacy and there is a subtle difference between diplomacy and head games.

I use diplomacy and do not respect people who innocently or malevolently try those head games.

If you want to play head games, I will ignore you, thereby negating your ability to play head games, I've had the best try it with me and they always lose, always.

I now have an ex-girlfriend, notice the ex in that statement, who tried to manipulate me into growing my hair the way she wanted it, stating she did not like it.

She was astounded that I did not change it immediately from a crew cut and let it grow out.

She next tried to state her mother did not like it.

If I am not going to change it for you, I certainly am not going to change it for a soon to be mother-in-law, I happen to like the Law Enforcement/Military style of haircut.

Next, low and behold, all of her friends did not like it.

It seems odd how if she did not like it, it escalated to her mum (she was an Aussie), and then it escalated to all of her friends, does it not?

Next, all of a sudden, all of Australia thought it was a stupid looking haircut.

I think not.

I told her this as well.

She next stated that it made it looked like I just escaped prison in Australia.

I smiled and thanked her for the compliment.

Yes, we are ex's for a reason, and that is just one small reason.

She is of course correct, it would take a stick of dynamite up my backside to get me to change.

You see, there is a subtle difference between change, and manipulation.

There is as well as difference between doing something to please your woman and being happy with yourself, and I am and was at the time, happy with myself.

I will be happy with myself until the day that I die, and no one can take that away.

No, I am not blaming her being an Aussie for the episode, I am however stating our cultural differences started between her being an Aussie and I being an American.

I asked her not to ask me to change three things with me, I was flexible about all others.

My hair.

My glasses.

My clothing.

Those were the three things she focused on and tried to get me to change.

I believe that was not too difficult for me to ask of her, now would you not agree?

I am happily single and will remain that way for as long as it takes to find a non-manipulative woman.

It has been since 2005 that I have been single and I waited until I was 20 to get laid the first time, and I can out-wait any woman threatening to withhold sex as a weapon.

Yes, I have had many a woman try that tactic as well, it never works with me.

I cook, clean, and have two hands, and I am quite capable of satisfying my every need.

This is no way stating I will never get involved again, it is however, just a statement.

Solitude is nice, I read a lot, I have plenty of time to everything I want or need to do.

I am speaking only for me and no one else.

I am not a project and I do not need fixing.

I am happy with who I am and if you are not you are with the wrong man.

[edit on 16-10-2009 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

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