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Originally posted by neformore
But if you really want a challenge - and to experience "hate" try going on any other English speaking forum that doesn't have a T&C like ATS and telling someone you are Chinese, French, Russian or British and expressing a strong opinion about the world. The replies you recieve will not be pleasant.
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Given the nature of this thread and comments elsewhere, it's an incredible irony that practically all the "hate" has always come from Americans.
Originally posted by alyosha1981
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Given the nature of this thread and comments elsewhere, it's an incredible irony that practically all the "hate" has always come from Americans.
Hate knows no nationality, no boundries and has no rules. I think it's a broad assumption on your part to claim that practically "all" the hate has always come from Americans.
This is a discussion forum, and the idea of limiting discussion because it debates some aspects of American culture or government in a specific way is not acceptable to me. We all have the freedom not to read, not to comment, or to do so with and knee-jerk response. It's then the turn of another poster to argue against it or in support of it. That is what discussion is about.
Regardless, leave people alone to debate and discuss. If you don't like a discussion you don't have to read or comment do you?
Originally posted by alyosha1981
I am all for discussion, just in a civil manner without the childish namecalling and hateful undertones that I have seen on the boards lately. I respect others opinions as I would like my own respected.
Originally posted by alyosha1981
reply to post by Merriman Weir
I was not calling into question your internet experience and I appoligise if I came off that way at all. In addition I did not presume any "pretend" Americans on this or any forum (although I don't discount it) I respect your opinion I was mearly pointing out a very general assumption on your part, that was stating "practically all of the hate comes from Americans".
As myself and other posters have suggested, you want to wear someone else's shoes for a while and see how it feels from this end.
Originally posted by Kryties
reply to post by alyosha1981
How else would you describe it? Within 2 posts of my first post in this very thread we had someone come in spouting patriotic and demeaning crap. You yourself are generalising when you say "Anti-American" because you do not define a difference between actual criticism and hatred.
You have also deflected away from the question that I asked, being that how is one supposed to criticise America without being branded a USA-Hater?
Originally posted by Kryties
What if I were to say something like "America starts wars on false pretenses"?
All I have done is state a FACT that is critical of America - not hatred but FACT. I would immediately be branded a USA-Hater and set upon by many American's telling me Australia did this and that wrong and that the USA is so very good because you did this or helped that country. This is not only ignorance but also hypocritical deflection. Not only have they immediately put me in a basket they then fire their own shots at me - completely deflecting attention away from the topic at hand which was that America starts wars on false pretenses.
This has happened to me repeatedly on ATS alone, let alone other forums. I do not see this sort of behaviour coming from posters from ANY other country except America.