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I agree, and I applaud your careful efforts. But if you REALLY are going to delve into this to the level you seem to want to, you need to be able to read the LANGUAGE THE ORIGINAL WAS WRITTEN IN.
Originally posted by Geladinhu
reply to post by The Matrix Traveller
Wait, so what you are saying is that the Genesis is talking about this "New Soul" that appears somewhere in the evolution of the hominid family?
What exactly is meant by soul? Type of consciousness?
56. Jesus said,
“Whoever has come to understand the World
has found only a corpse,
and whoever has found a corpse
is superior to the World.”
39. Jesus said,
“The Pharisees and the Scribes
have taken The Keys of Knowledge
and Hidden Them.
They themselves have NOT entered,
nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to.
51. His disciple said to Him,
“When will the repose of the dead come about,
and when will the New World come?”
He said to them,
“What you look forward to has already come,
but you do Not recognise it.”
52. His disciples said to Him,
“Twenty-four prophets spoke in Israel,
and all of them spoke in You.”
He said to them,
“You have omitted The Living One in your presence
and have spoken only of the Dead.”
11. Jesus said,
“This heaven will pass away,
and the one above it, will pass away.
The dead are Not alive, and the living will Not die.
..........
.........
.........
When you come to dwell in The Light, what will you do?
On the day when you were one you became two.
But when you become two, what will you do?”
Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
reply to post by silent thunder
I agree, and I applaud your careful efforts. But if you REALLY are going to delve into this to the level you seem to want to, you need to be able to read the LANGUAGE THE ORIGINAL WAS WRITTEN IN.
What was the original Language?
Hebrew or Zionic and do You know the Zionic Language?
Where I get most of my knowledge is from the ZIONic Language.
The original writings were in ZIONic and Not Hebrew.
The way I understand your exegesis on Genesis so far is as follows:
1. First there are the Spiritual elements created by God for the purpose of making a spiritual heaven and a spiritual earth (not the physical heaven and earth).
2. There are physical elements derived from the spiritual elements which God used to create our physical universe (physical heavens) and physical earth.
3. The Physical and the Spiritual exists together in an interwoven Matrix.
4. Our mind, soul, consciousness is made of Spirit and together with our physical bodies the two are a partition of the larger Matrix(a fractal).
40. What I am you Shall See When you come yourself.
41. If you knew How to Suffer you would be able not to Suffer.
42. Learn how to Suffer And you Shall be able not to Suffer.
43. What you do not know I Myself will teach you.
44. I am your God, not the God of the traitor
45. I will that there be prepared Holy SOULS for Me.
46. Understand The Word of Wisdom!
47. As for Me, if you would understand What I was::
48. By The Word I mocked at all things And was not mocked at all,
49. I Exulted: But do you Understand The Whole,
5. Our physical bodies including our brains are nothing more than an encoder/decoder for our mind, soul, consciousness(spirit).
6. What goes on in the Spirit realm is dimly mirrored in the physical realm.
7. A mind that is focused on the physical realm experiences the physical.
84. Jesus said,
“When you See your likeness, you rejoice.
But when you See Your Images,
which came into being Before You,
and which Neither Die Nor Become Manifest,
How Much You Will HaveTo Bear!”
8. A mind that is focused on the Spiritual realm experiences both the Spiritual and the Physical.
Am I on track so far?
My question is:
Why would God say that he created the heaven and the earth first. But then go on to say that Earth was without form and void?
With out form and void means no shape or dimension. That would mean that earth cant exist but still it does?
That doesn't make sense.
To me it sounds like earth is also heaven at this stage? Heaven and earth is one and the same thing. It just hasn't taken shape yet or been separated into heaven and earth. As the text say.
To say that God first created The Heaven and the Earth must be a miss interpretation from Moses. Because later God tells us that earth is without form and void.
Would it be right to assume that God actually first created heaven. And "with" Or "out of" heaven God created the earth?
Question: Do you have an idea of what heaven is?
Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
Now here are some curious words mentioning Heaven/s...
Again from The Gospel of Thomas...
Quote;
11. Jesus said,
“This heaven will pass away,
and the one above it, will pass away.
The dead are Not alive, and the living will Not die.
..........
.........
.........
When you come to dwell in The Light, what will you do?
On the day when you were one you became two.
But when you become two, what will you do?”
Any thoughts about this "Heaven" or "Heavens"?
Bearing in Mind what this thread is about....
(Refer to the beginning of this Thread)