Census worker hanged with 'Fed" on his body

Originally posted by conspiracyrus
reply to post by Esoterica

 

.... what are you talking about ... Until you posted this was a discussion im assuming your intention was to turn this into mudslinging? id prefer if youd stop inciting and add discussion rather than rhetoric and obvious bigotry.

What mudslinging did I do? Aside from saying I think people that are calling this a false flag are wrong?

If saying that politics on ATS is terribly partisan is "mudslinging", then I might as well leave ATS right now.

Disgusting! Census jobs are for everybody, especially us regular people! I tried to apply for that job recently (when I needed a job), but, thankfully, I found another job while I am in college.

Oh it's certainly a message. If he had stumbled on a crime of any sort, the body would have been hidden. Either way it's suprising that the computer was left behind. This makes it seem like an act of rage or extreme anger. Not a conspiracy at all, but someone who is paranoid and afraid of the government. I do agree that the fox news folks stir the pot by constantly attacking everything liberal or democrat. But Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter aren't at the heart of this paranoia. It would still exist of Bush was still president. The left is as much to blame as the right. Sure, even I get depressed and paranoid at times reading through the threads here but I temper it with common sense. I take precautions without changing my entire life. I've seen too many false alarms that never ammount to anything.

The government "IS" doing things that appear to validate alot of the paranoia out there. Going nuts over swine flu for no reason? RFID and tracking devices and FEMA coffins and secret bases and detention camps and postings for relocation specialists or what not on national guard websites and on and on and on. A lot of this stuff really is happening, whether the intention is evil or not is open to debate, but can you blame someone for being a little paranoid.

I don't see a blood bath. I see maybe one or two guys getting arrested and if there is a gun fight no more then 4 people die at most. Tragic but not a bloodbath, not a conspiracy but I'll tell you I wouldn't get a job as a census worker!

reply to post by Esoterica


"Gubment hating good ol boy"
"You have taken ATS paranoia to an entirely new level. I am not amused."
"To stop things like this, we need to stop hating eachother. We hate eachother now more than ever. And it gets ratings and ad revenue."

No one was talking about hate.

Trying to discredit a logical path of discussion?

And furthermore i doubt you can say this theory is "wrong" based on your opinion ...

And furhtermore ... if it is truly as you claim "us vs them" then who is us? i would assume ATS members and american citizens as a whole. Them being government itself? goverment employees?


You made this partisan, there was no partisan debate here ... take it to political forums



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reply to post by Southern Guardian

This is just disgusting People have a right to say what they want about the government but this was just somebody doing their job in hard times. Just disgusting

This could just as easily be a cia operation to paint people who are anti-fed as murderers. CIA has no problem with murder ask the DC madame.

This looks like a psy-op to me. Who were against the censuses? Patriot community. Who hates the Fed and thinks its corrupt? Patriot community.

Miraculously...

Patriot community=dangerous. How convenient.

reply to post by Beefcake


Yeah my point exactly ... its easy to do Kill someone with obvious govt ties and make a reverse example of him. Poor guy was probably on his way through the hill in his car stopped by a roadblock in a remote area and abducted... Its what the CIA has been doing since its inception ... Secret Renditions ring a bell? =p

Originally posted by IntastellaBurstBut its sad, a guy being killed probably for just doing his job. Getting strung up by some slack jawed yocal's, cause they thought he looked all fancy walking around playing with his " puter".

My thoughts exactly. Not only is this tragic and shows the growing crazy mentality of the public that is losing its morality it claims to fight for, but this can easily be used to garner more control.

reply to post by Sestias
It wouldn't be the first time someone had committed suicide and tried to implicate someone else. But in certain areas of the country, (not just Kentucky), you don't go around asking questions, especially if you are from the government. The Feds know this, so if it turns out to be homicide, they are partially responsible for not giving this person adequate training and protection. They could have told him to wait a couple of months. It might have been safer around Christmas.

reply to post by SpacePunk
These are people who have been living on their own since they settled area in 1700's. Ever hear of the Whiskey Rebellion? These are Scotch-Irish settlers who are fiercely independent, and wildly distrustful of the Federal government, a sentiment I find echoed on this board daily.
While I disapprove of murder, it is highly possible he was warned to leave and didn't do so. Also, we must remember, at this time, we don't know if this is murder or suicide.
In my part of the country, we don't trust the Feds either, and if we catch someone snooping around our property(especially farm land) they are often met with a gun. If they produce the proper ID, we send them on their way. If they don't belong, we call the sherriff.

reply to post by Symbiote
Pretty much sums it up. Brings back memories of Andy Griffith and the Darlings(in real life, the Dillards) and good music, good times and small town life.
We never did get around to lynchin' any revenoors though. We just filled their butts full of rock salt. That seemed to do the trick. (Sarcasm people)

reply to post by Beefcake


Obviously you aren't familiar with the more wild and woolly aspects of Eastern Kentucky. Those of us here in Kentucky generally don't like the stereotyping of our state, but it is true that it is dangerous in certain areas, especially for enforcement types.

By claiming this is a psy-ops, false flag, sinister ACORN plot, etc, etc, the appearance is given of a true paranoid grasping for straws. Believe it or not, sometimes things happen that aren't controlled by hidden cabals hell bent on ruling us. This is an area that is naturally distrustful of the government, and I'm sure the current political climate hasn't helped things out lately.

It's an unfortunate story indeed. These people obviously had a statement to make. It's unfortunate a federal civil servant was killed like this. I wonder how a soldier in uniform just returning from Iraq or Afghanistan would have been treated? Probably not the same as this gentleman.

It seems to obvious. Like it was targeted to try to stop the anti-fed wave everyone KNOWS has been there.

I'm curious though, was he hanging upside down by chance?

The people here saying that right wing fear mongering is causing some of the pschoypathic behavior seen recently with the abortion doc, and now this poor man might have a point. This evening on Drudge there was a link to a video of a school teacher that was using song to teach her students about the President. I don't know about you, but when I was a kid we sang songs about the Presidients to learn about civics. I remember songs about Carter, some song about Reagan and jelly beans, and the Kennedy rubber tree song. But this video was titled "School kids taught to Praise Obama", and a youtube user by the screenname of IHeart90s posted this comment
"Find the f*#!$ng person who made these kids sing this s*#t and KILL HIM.

You f%*$#^g liberals trying to indoctrinate kids now, well you're going to see some #ing consequences soon if you don't stop this s*#t."
This person is calling for the murder of a School Teacher, and for what?
So yes I think that some of rhetoric we are hearing day in and out from the republicans is fueling some very dangerous people. How many times have we heard lately from some beligerent repub about the coming civil war? Some of these people seem excited about the possibility of running down their street with their AR-15, plugging all their liberal and Obama loving neighbors. And in their minds being heroes for saving their country from those evil commie, facist, marxist, etc. This might be the same mentality coming into play here with Mr. Sparkmans murder.
I wonder if it wasn't reported right away because of the worry of copycat murders, and/or the worry about this inciting the lunatics who keep promoting this Civil War they are hoping for.

Edit* I sent Youtube and law enforcement an email about that commentor. Now, will they do anything about it?

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Strangely I find myself without sympathy. Any resistance against the slowly encroaching fascism that our kids will be born into warms my heart a bit.

reply to post by IntastellaBurst

The FBI is still trying to determine if there was foul play involved ?? haha

i couldn't help thinking the same thing. followed by, "the FBI found it was too dark to determine if their head was up their arse".

"hmmmmm? whacha think, clem? did he put that thar sign on hiz own self befored he hunged hiz self? maybe we should call the chief and see what he thinks?"
"yup"


[edit on 24-9-2009 by billybob]

Originally posted by badgerprints
Probably more going on here than meets the eye.

Don't jump to any conclusions before the facts are uncovered.

Sad situation.

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I'm trying not to jump to conclusions but frankly with people like Glen Beck calling for revolution one can't help but wonder if the "slack jawed" perpetrators took Mr. Beck at his word and decided to put into action all that his hate filled diatribes imply...just sayin...

When a major news network promotes hate and ignorance there's bound to be some blow-back...

But then again maybe its just some loony who watched one too many "slasher in the back woods" flicks... but somehow I doubt it..

reply to post by IntastellaBurst


Well i work for the census, trust me u run across some nasty people. u can also were what u want to work, u make your own hrs as long as u work 40hrs a week and if u work a day it has to be atleast 4hrs and u get paid from the time u walk out your door till u get back home, plus u get paid for your miles also.

reply to post by SpacePunk

These people are dangerous, and need to be put down like the dogs they are. If the FBI go in in force then, in this, I support them. The killers are undeserving of our support, understanding, or anything else that would even tenuously connect real patriotism with this crime.

Spoken like a no nothing arm chair city critic. Remember the song "Sixteen tons"??? That song was about the oppression of these people but I guess since you think they are not BLACK their oppression does not count.


These people have been pissed on by the federal government and big corporations for generations. They have had family members killed in mines when the big corporations did not fix dangerous conditions and the Union and OSHA looked the other way. A geologist friend was so sickened by the conditions he has never worked for a corporation again. They live in shacks with outhouses and no electricity at poverty levels that would shock a city welfare type. I have had two bosses claw their way out of that area so I KNOW. They HATE the US government for a good and just reason. At least they recognize the enemy which is more than I can say for the Democratic party worshipers who are as guilty of murdering their relatives and stealing their land as the Corporations and the US government. WHOSE land do you thing gets taken for all those parks, wilderness preserves and no farm watershed regulations you wanted, whose livelihoods will get taken because of Cap and Trade regs??

I would not be surprised if land seizures were a part of the problem as well as Cap and Trade. Congress just passed another law to seizure lands the Omnibus Public Lands Management Act of 2009, that was strongly opposed by land owners. The hanging in a park certainly points towards the land grab issue as does the choice of a Cenus Taker who is getting the home owners GPS location.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid recently announced his plans to call back the Senate for a lame duck session to pass a massive land grab bill that will restrict property rights and hamstring energy exploration in the United States. On behalf of the undersigned organizations representing hundreds of thousands of taxpayers, small businesses, shareholders, consumers, and senior citizens, we strongly urge you to oppose the Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2008.

This legislation contains over 1,000 pages and is comprised of more than 100 different land grab bills. From wilderness areas to heritage areas to wild and scenic rivers, this omnibus bill advances a centralized command-and-control vision of American lands. The federal government already owns over 650 million acres of land, much of which is experiencing severe maintenance backlogs or has already gone into disarray. We are concerned the omnibus bill would lock millions of additional acres of land into government regulation, preventing American citizens from exercising their right of property ownership....

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