PID - Motivations for the Murder of Paul McCartney

Thanks for re-posting Getsmart's eloquent and keen essay. Remarkable! I really dig Getsmart's writing.

I'm digesting George Harrison's "autobiography" which is a scatterbrained affair co-written by P.R. man Derek Taylor. No intriguing quotes to post here, yet.

It is funny how this book I, ME, MINE seems purposely to be trivial in every respect. There's a page of Harrison comment for each of his Beatle songs, but it's hilarious how he tries to make the reader believe that little or no thought went into them! They all just kind of wrote themselves by frivolous accident! Who knew?!? (sarcasm intended)

The book also makes a point of displaying original pieces of scratch paper and motel stationery with George's very poor handwriting scrawls of these songs' lyrics. What a miracle! The song lyrics rarely changed at all from their very first dashing down on paper to the finished product on Beatles albums!

Basically, the book is like one big attempt to play down anything strange. Mysticism? Oh no, just a coincidence! (sarcasm intended) For example, Blue Jay Way was just an innocent little ditty he penned while waiting for Derek and his wife to arrive at the house George was staying in at the time in L.A. So, he says he got a little bored waiting for his dinner guests and thought up this little song and there's nothing whatever more to it!

LOL!!!!

O.K., so this book could have been done as a propaganda thing to downplay mysticism. It's all very "nothing to see here, folks... move along now."

It's like if Salvador Dali had said "Oh, that? The melting clocks? I didn't mean anything by it at all. It's just decoration." Right. Bull****

Having this guy Derek on board is really fishy. Anyway, you know, it's like the so-called biography of L.H.O. purportedly written by his "brother" Robert about how Lee was just a troubled youngster who liked playing with guns and had an overbearing Mom coincidentally just like Norman Bates. See what I mean? These books are actually written by CIA or in this case, British Intelligence (Derek Taylor could easily have been an agent) in order to spin something one way or another.

The spin in the Harrison book is that his career was a happy-go-lucky, lightweight cruise through the times and he was just along for the ride. Throughout the book, there are these humble asides in which he claims he's not really a songwriter at all but these hit songs with the (as he claims) totally innocent lyrics just popped onto some piece of scrap paper and voila!

It's all just very fishy.

Another probable agent was Norman Smith. Former RAF glider pilot in WWII, becomes The Beatles' EMI engineer for all their albums up through RUBBER SOUL then lo and behold, he's promoted to producer, leaves The Beatles and produces Pink Floyd.

Was being "promoted" to producer a reward for something? If so, what? There's a heck of a lot more money in producing Pink Floyd than in engineer wages.

So yeah, I think the man who knew too much number one was Brian Epstein and the number two? Norman Smith. The military connection is interesting. There's also Geoff Emerick entering stage left as Norman Smith exits stage right.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think Norman going from engineer to suddenly record producer in charge of Syd (we all know what supposedly happened to Syd)... well, it's all just more high strangeness.

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Originally posted by switching yard
Thanks for re-posting Getsmart's eloquent and keen essay. Remarkable! I really dig Getsmart's writing.

Yeah, me too.

I'm digesting George Harrison's "autobiography" which is a scatterbrained affair co-written by P.R. man Derek Taylor.

Wasn't Derek Taylor the one who said you don't have to do anything to prove you're alive except be alive, if only to prove it to yourself? Oh, yeah, that's a great quote from 1969 when people almost figured out PID.

It is funny how this book I, ME, MINE seems purposely to be trivial in every respect. There's a page of Harrison comment for each of his Beatle songs, but it's hilarious how he tries to make the reader believe that little or no thought went into them! They all just kind of wrote themselves by frivolous accident! Who knew?!? (sarcasm intended)

Ok, so I'm really spiritual, & I've put quite a bit of study-time into Eastern philosophy & religion. IMO, songs like "Within You Without You" & "The Inner Light" show a very deep understanding of Eastern philosophy. I think George pretty much "got it." The person who wrote those songs was like a yogi, as far as I'm concerned.

The book also makes a point of displaying original pieces of scratch paper and motel stationery with George's very poor handwriting scrawls of these songs' lyrics. What a miracle! The song lyrics rarely changed at all from their very first dashing down on paper to the finished product on Beatles albums!

Did the hand-writing look like this?

Basically, the book is like one big attempt to play down anything strange. Mysticism? Oh no, just a coincidence! (sarcasm intended) For example, Blue Jay Way was just an innocent little ditty he penned while waiting for Derek and his wife to arrive at the house George was staying in at the time in L.A. So, he says he got a little bored waiting for his dinner guests and thought up this little song and there's nothing whatever more to it!

Yeah, it was pure coincidence that it said "Paul is bloody."

So yeah, I think the man who knew too much number one was Brian Epstein and the number two? Norman Smith. The military connection is interesting. There's also Geoff Emerick entering stage left as Norman Smith exits stage right.

Emerick was one of the studio magiCIAns who changed how the voice sounded on "Strawberry Fields." So, they could change how Faul sounded by changing the speed of the tape.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think Norman going from engineer to suddenly record producer in charge of Syd (we all know what supposedly happened to Syd)... well, it's all just more high strangeness.

Well, yeah. Barrett's biographer said he was force-fed '___'. I wonder what the hell was up w/ Syd Barrett? Was he another non-team player?

Interesting disinfo hit piece written by David Moye of AOL news (an obvious write-up with the intention of dismissing and rationalizing away PID) - dated June 18th, 2010:

www.aolnews.com...

These people just make things up as they go along. The author wrote:

Quote:
"Because while that old "Paul is dead" urban legend was supposedly killed when McCartney himself did a news conference in 1969 announcing that the rumors of his death had been "greatly exaggerated..."

Faul never said rumors of his death had been "greatly exaggerated." He said: "To the people’s minds who prefer to think of them as rumours, then I am not going to interfere, I am not going to spoil that fantasy." In other words, Faul is not going to interfere with the people who think of PID as a "rumor."

LIFE proved Faul was "still with us"

And what press conference would that be? Faul was hiding out in Scotland, threatening reporters with violence at the time. If anyone knows of a press conference that Faul gave back in Oct-Nov 1969 about PID, then please post it.

Yeah, that page of lyrics you posted is in the book. I also noticed that although these songs (including the solo years) spanned about 20+ years, the reproductions of the scribbled lyric notes seem to show that only two, possibly three different pens were used. Most of them were written with a felt tip, like the same one, the same pen.

I just wonder if that book I, ME, MINE was cooked up mostly by Derek Taylor to throw anyone like us off track by making it all seem so innocent and coincidental.

You know, I don't like knocking George, but you have to wonder what happened when remembering that bit possibly from Mal Evans' never published notes about George being traumatized, sobbing and asking "Why, why?" You know, I think the real George would have had lots to say about the early Beatles years, but there's hardly any recollections in the book. It just doesn't seem right.

That Norman Smith, I think was moved over to another Tavistock "project" which was Syd Barrett and The Pink Floyd. I just saw a documentary about the making of the album MEDDLE and in it, the music critics interviewed pointed out that Syd was the only music genius in the band and when he went insane, Roger Waters took over trying to make the group successful but it was only when Norman Smith came onboard did Pink Floyd hit it big.

Pink Floyd recorded their albums at Abbey Road sometimes during the same weeks the Beatles recorded their tracks there and the two bands were friends.

I've never believed the official story of how Syd Barrett went insane. The rumor he was force fed '___' makes sense but why? Were they just experimenting on him? John Lennon or the fellow playing that role had this to say in LENNON REMEMBERS about his '___' taking...

WENNER: How long did '___' go on?

LENNON: It went on for years. I must have done a thousand trips.

WENNER: Literally, a thousand?

LENNON: Yeah.

WENNER: A couple of hundred?

LENNON: No, lots. We used to just eat it all the time.



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Originally posted by switching yard
Yeah, that page of lyrics you posted is in the book. I also noticed that although these songs (including the solo years) spanned about 20+ years, the reproductions of the scribbled lyric notes seem to show that only two, possibly three different pens were used. Most of them were written with a felt tip, like the same one, the same pen.

I bet they didn't need any corrections, either. lol

You know, I don't like knocking George, but you have to wonder what happened when remembering that bit possibly from Mal Evans' never published notes about George being traumatized, sobbing and asking "Why, why?" You know, I think the real George would have had lots to say about the early Beatles years, but there's hardly any recollections in the book. It just doesn't seem right.

Oh, I'm not knocking George. I think he was highly spiritual & not a team player, either (neither was John). I think all the Beatles were replaced by the time of Sgt. Pepper. I think that's what the cover was telling us: "BEATLES" on the grave, the "old" Beatles shoved to the side, & the new ones up front & center. JMO

Here are Linda's isolated vocals on "Hey Jude." Some of us are thinking that they forced that poor woman to sing w/ Faul & become a laughing stock to divert attention away from Faul. OK, so IMO Paul was a genius & Faul is mediocre at best. Compared to Linda, though, he sounds pretty good. We think that she acted like the mustache & flashy clothes - she drew attention to herself & away from Faul. It was sort of like camouflage.

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Very interesting theory about Linda. It is also one of my main theories that Linda and Yoko were with their husbands non-stop attached at the hip for a reason. Because in real life, being that closely together night and day for years and years --- is NOT a healthy relationship.

Here's an interesting page of videos that show the transformation of Paul to Sir...

www.popmatters.com...

The Beatles (The White Album)

November 22, 1968 Apple Records

Originally entitled "A Doll's House"

www.aboutthebeatles.com...

Nov. 22 - hmmmm

Dollhouse -

"The show revolves around a corporation running numerous underground establishments (known as "Dollhouses") across the globe which program individuals referred to as Actives (or Dolls) with temporary personalities and skills...

Each Active has their original memories wiped and exists in a child-like blank state until programmed via the insertion of new memories and personalities for each mission. Actives such as Echo are ostensibly volunteers who have surrendered their minds and bodies to the organization for five-year stints, during which their original personalities are saved on hard drives, in exchange for vast amounts of money and a solution to any other problematic circumstances in their lives..."

en.wikipedia.org...(TV_series)

Fascinating!!!

Also, I vaguely remember there was an episode of THE AVENGERS that had sort of the same theme.

Changing the subject slightly, I found this youtube video, a clip from the very end of the THE BEATLES ANTHOLOGY TV series. Pay close attention to the "innocent" banter after the song is finished... go in at about :42

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Notice at the end of this clip they seem to have fond memories of Candlestick Park. George jokes something like "now I don't have to see you for another 40 years!" then "Paul" says "I think it was Candlestick Park" then quickly says "no, no. no" in a joking way and George says "THIS is Candlestick Park."

As you know, my theory is that the replacements/impostors/doubles made their first appearance as the Beatles at Candlestick Park. My theory is that the real, original Beatles were never in Candlestick Park but were elsewhere at some unknown location either murdered or barely still alive but not for much longer.

So I think it is surrealistic that at the end of Anthology, they're fondly remembering Candlestick Park perhaps as an inside thing like, "remember when we started as a band it was in Candlestick Park." Then when George jokes "THIS is Candlestick Park" perhaps he's referencing that it's a replacements reunion, this Anthology togetherness.

Supposedly, that particular concert, Candlestick Park, was one of their worst and they hated being there and so forth and it was dreadful, so why are they sort of paying tribute to Candlestick Park at the end of Anthology?

Because, if my theory is correct, it was their first public appearance as a band, the replacement band of impostors, so yeah it would have a special place in their hearts.

EDIT TO ADD: Do a Google search of "The Avengers episode about dolls" and you'll see that there are several Avengers episodes on similar topics. Interestingly enough, the guy behind the Dollhouse series is set to direct the new feature film called THE AVENGERS for release in 2012. Whoa! Too many co-winky-dinks!

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Well, of course, I agree w/ you about Candlestick. I think it was a whole new cast of characters starting w/ Sgt. Pepper. Why did they need a new band name? Maybe b/c it was technically a new band???



John Ono Lennon's response to Martin Luther King's death: "What do you think we are, deadbeats?" Um... dead Beatles?

Yeah, we get the picture.

Thanks for posting that clip. I've seen it before and it always bothered me that they seem so naive about business.

I think we can hear "Lennon" has a strong Irish accent in this clip.

They're both stoned on something or is it just me?

Originally posted by switching yard
Thanks for posting that clip. I've seen it before and it always bothered me that they seem so naive about business.

It seems weird to me that they went to India for 4 months for spiritual reasons, & then are keen on starting a business.

I think we can hear "Lennon" has a strong Irish accent in this clip.

Yeah, you're not the only one who has noticed that.

They're both stoned on something or is it just me?

Or something...

Not only does the "Lennon" accent and dialect sound very Irish, but I can go a step farther and say it sounds to me like...

DUBLIN, Ireland.

If that is a replacement, I would be willing to bet he grew up in Dublin, Ireland.

Faul? Not sure. He sounds more English but I suppose could be Canadian trained to sound English? Not sure.

Viewed "All Together Now," the behind-the-scenes documentary about the making of the Las Vegas Cirque du Soleil show LOVE.

I didn't notice anything suspicious in it. The whole thing was done in a very, very corporate way, however. Anything that corporate has some rot in it.

Paul is Dead from 1980 [video]

Cool video, someotherguy. Thanks for sharing.

On page 399 of I, ME, MINE (Chronicle Books, paperback), George Harrison, or someone impersonating him, wrote...

"Tell not all that you know because he who tells all that he knows, often tells more than he knows."

At the top of the page there is an illustration. It is of a group of men and women all with their backs turned to the viewer of the page. Three men and three women. They are all wearing hats or head coverings. They are straining to look over a fence at something seeming to excite them. One man is wearing a military uniform.

PID Truther, Orb, made this connection w/ movie, "Vanilla Sky":

I've just posted a Jeff Buckley song on another thread ([I]Last Goodbye[/I]) from the film "Vanilla Sky" and something struck me. The title track of the film was written and composed by the man himself, Faul. It's basically about a guy who goes into a coma after being in a serious [B]car accident[/B] - David (played by Tom Cruise) finds his face is completley disfigured after the crash and he has to wear a [B]fake prosthetic mask.[/B] Imo there is a certain element of PID mirrored in the film.

At www.davidicke.com...


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Interesting observation. I saw the film a few years ago and thought pretty much everything about it was creepy.

The title song is yet another example of mediocre songwriting. It's basically just modulating back and forth on two notes with some related chords tossed in to fancy it up a bit. Not exactly any kind of memorable melody. The amount of money paid for that is crazy. I think it even got nominated for an oscar for best movie song!

A rank amateur presenting that song would be sent home empty handed because it's so lame. But, if you are the stuff of legend, well, voila, you get paid big ('cause your name is on it) and "might win an oscar --- you can never tell" (pardon the pun).

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Eerily reminds one of EYES WIDE SHUT although I doubt any connection...

virtualglobetrotting.com...

Here's the one Kubrick used...

www.movie-locations.com...

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In the legend and lore, a two-person team from LIFE magazine drove up to the "McCartney" farm cottage in Scotland to verify whether "Paul" was alive or not.

As the story goes, they simply knocked on the door. A furious "Paul" came to the door with a bucket of "kitchen slop" which he hurled at the reporter and photographer. The team leaves the scene, then "Paul" changes his mind and chases them in his Range Rover. When he catches up, he apologizes, offers to do an interview and provide them with some of Linda's photos, and the LIFE team accepts under "Paul's" condition that they hand over to him the film they just shot of "angry Paul." Everyone agrees, goes back to the cottage for tea and biscuits and ample "proof" that Paul is not dead.

First question to those who regularly participate in this thread... how did LIFE mag know where to find him in the first place? Wouldn't his location have been a closely guarded secret to keep the press away? How did they know where to go?

Second question... are we really supposed to believe that a Beatle personally answers a knock on his front door not knowing whom is there?

Third question... did "Paul" know these people were from LIFE magazine and that's why he personally answered the door? If so, how did he know?

The official story we've been left to ponder about LIFE finding "Paul" and how it was supposedly spontaneous with "Paul" not expecting anyone, is a bit too innocent to believe.

LIFE, controlled by the Luce family, was one of the main propaganda vehicles for convicting Lee Harvey Oswald in the press. It was such a popular magazine during the sixties and early seventies that most Americans read it weekly or had access to it and whatever they printed was accepted by the public as gospel truth.

The whole episode of LIFE paying a surprise visit to "Paul" and verifying him as the real Paul... well, it seems to me to have been made up. Of course, in the magazine it was made to look like a real story, but I think the entire episode was staged. More likely staged than not, in my opinion.

You know, it makes a good, tall tale that irate "Paul" comes to the door with a bucket of slop no matter whom might be knocking. O.K., we get it, he wanted to get away from it all.

Why? Why would the most metropolitan, London pub crawling, art collecting, gregarious Beatle want to go do a Green Acres thing in rural Scotland in a primitive farm shed of a place?