Obamaland : Cotton Candy, Gumdrops, and Rainbow Dreams, This is the Land of Collusion, page 5

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 04:09 PM

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Thank you so much for your kinds words, questioningall.

Naive? I would not go so far as to say that about you, you think.

I never once bought into Obama, but then again I see through the politician's.

Each and every one.

It got quite spooky as a teenager hearing through the lies, half-truths, and bold faced crap.

crimvelvet

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 05:04 PM

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I highly doubt people will wake up though.

I spend a lot of time among strangers in the public. People ARE waking up and they are from all ideologies. When I tried to speak to people about the WTO threat to our food supply for the last several years I got a big yawn. Now when I talk to them about the Fed I get grill. I have stamped these three websites on the back of my business cards to give out to people. I just hope everyone wakes up in time.

A Talk by G. Edward Griffin Author of The Creature from Jekyll Island

and

Interview with John Perkins, Author of “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man”

for those who like to read

A PRIMER ON MONEY: Congressional COMMITTEE ON BANKING AND CURRENCY

SpartanKingLeonidas

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 05:11 PM

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Well, I can agree to a small extent, but only so far.

When I talk about politics, in real life, people get this glazed over look like deer caught in the headlights, and some people are scared to death of it when I talk about it because they have been so dormant, or like ostriches with their heads in the sand, they have no clue.

I have learned to tone it down a notch or two, and yes, this thread is me being toned down.

Great idea by the way with your putting those links on your business cards.

Like I mentioned before, I was told at thirteen I was as cynical as a thirty year old.

I am thirty-six right now, and most people think I am a lot older, and I feel as young as eighteen.

Some days are better than others when it comes to politics for me.

This thread happened to come to me because I could not fall back to sleep at 4am.

I know when I get like that I might as well not bother going back to bed, it means I have something that has to come out and voila here it is in this thread.

crimvelvet

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 05:13 PM

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Irony here. I was someone who was doing quite well under the "massive capitalistic" machine that you describe.

It's the encroachment of government that disturbs me.

Actually the bankers and corporate cartels "LOVE" Socialism. All those nice regulations that make it impossible for small businesses to compete is just great with them. The worst government system is one where the corporate cartels, banks and government are colluding,under the guise of social welfare of course, so they can sheer the sheeple and then bleed them dry. We have been sheared now they are proceeding to bleeding us to death.

None of our government programs do much more than bleed taxes from people, and health care will be just the same .

SpartanKingLeonidas

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 05:16 PM

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I forgot to mention a good book in the last post as well to you.

The Cult of the Presidency: America's Dangerous Devotion to Executive Power

It was done in 2008 before Obama came to office so I have to wonder what it might have said about him if the author had waited one year later to write it, or even after the completion of this term in office.

That book opened my eyes even further to just how some President's have gotten far more power than they ever should have at the cost of our liberties, freedoms, and rights.

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MAJIC 12

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 05:28 PM

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Don't get upset or worry about it;Nothing is going to get better anyway.
This administration is a continuum of a grand policy to consolodate all radio and internet communication, health care,transportation industry,and banking under Federal ownership and control by means of Acorn legislated,Czar enacted,Obama approved laws that
circumvent Congress and Senate.You have no say so .Basically it's a racist regime of
re-heated left-over commie wannabe's from the domestic black resistance of the 60`s-70`s taking over in the name of "charity and good will".

radarloveguy

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 05:37 PM

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seems to me.............

barack obama has been handed a dysfunctional economy
and everybody expects him to instantly fix this.!? i suggest the u.s hire
the worlds best entrepeneur . someone who can inspire,motivate,and
kick arse. such people exist ,and are for hire. not cheap ,but worth it.!!!!

SpartanKingLeonidas

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by MAJIC 12
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

Don't get upset or worry about it;Nothing is going to get better anyway.
This administration is a continuum of a grand policy to consolodate all radio and internet communication, health care,transportation industry,and banking under Federal ownership and control by means of Acorn legislated,Czar enacted,Obama approved laws that
circumvent Congress and Senate.You have no say so .Basically it's a racist regime of
re-heated left-over commie wannabe's from the domestic black resistance of the 60`s-70`s taking over in the name of "charity and good will".

To a degree, you had me in complete agreement, up until the racism comment.

Yes, it is continued policy, wrapped in a new package, the same old stale politics with a bright new shiny ribbon and a new wrapper, as I mentioned before, Washington as usual.

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SpartanKingLeonidas

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by radarloveguy
seems to me.............

barack obama has been handed a dysfunctional economy
and everybody expects him to instantly fix this.!? i suggest the u.s hire
the worlds best entrepeneur . someone who can inspire,motivate,and
kick arse. such people exist ,and are for hire. not cheap ,but worth it.!!!!

I know this on all counts.

I am a motivational speaker and as well an entrepreneur.

They could not meet my required pay scale.

Look at some of the things I post about, other than this thread, and you will see.

nixie_nox

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 05:50 PM

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Oh I am sorry! I know it sucks when people try to inject a little bit of reasoning into your little gripe fest.

I do apologize for sounding condencending. That is not my intent. But when you make a statement that the economy should be fixed by now because a woman can have a baby in nine months, your asking for it.

So I can boil water in 2.5 minutes. Should the economy be fixed in 2.5 minutes?

But it takes someone 30 years to pay a mortgage. Maybe it should really take 30 years to fix.

I am still trying to draw a line how reproduction fits into fixing the economy.

The anti obama squad are the ones running around belittling people for supporting their president.

The name of the thread is attacking just that with "rainbow dreams" but the only people with WAY unrealistic expectations are those who are against Obama.

It is kind of funny really.

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SpartanKingLeonidas

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 06:03 PM

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To whom was your post directed?

It got fuzzy since you replied to one person by name, but seemed it was directed at me.

Mixed signals notwithstanding, no condescension was taken by me from you.

If you want to defend Obama, feel free to do so, this is not about trashing the man.

It is about stating the man is speaking in hollow words, failed gestures, and empty promises.

There is a subtle difference between bashing the man and stating he is not doing his job.

redhead57

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by Remixtup

The name of the thread is attacking just that with "rainbow dreams" but the only people with WAY unrealistic expectations are those who are against Obama.

It is kind of funny really.

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I completely disagree with you. My expectations when I foolishly supported O were for the damage of the Bush years to be undone. With all the Bush people in charge of the war machine, where is the change???? No big expectations...just do what you promised like bring our troops home from a war based on lies and OIL! No big expectations, what happened to responsible stewardship of our economy? Oh, another huge stimulus that my grandchildren will be paying off, but no more money really injected into the economy just more to line the pockets of the bankers.

I guess it is too much to expect a man that campaigns all about the big changes and we get none! NO transparency, no change, just more of the same.

He did one good thing, he is running people out of the two party system. I am now a registered Independent and I never, EVER would have believed I would get soured on the two party system. Thanks Barack for opening up my eyes and the eyes of millions of others.

Go back to your hearty laughing now.

MAJIC 12

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 06:12 PM

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I'm sorry,It's NOT racist..Until they're caught speaking to the public
about what they have planned,then they have to resign;like Van Jones.

SpartanKingLeonidas

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 06:15 PM

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It's good to see and hear from another Independent, although your reason for becoming one is sad.

I have always been registered as one, because to me, having only two choices, is no choice.

You stated exactly like I meant for my message to come across.

SpartanKingLeonidas

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by MAJIC 12
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

I'm sorry,It's NOT racist..Until they're caught speaking to the public
about what they have planned,then they have to resign;like Van Jones.

I had said racism not racist.

I was not referring you were making a racist comment.

It was about the context being on racism.

Do you see the difference?

If I had called your comment racist I would have been implying you were a bigot (insult).

Instead, by stating it was racism I only stated you brought race up as an issue (race card).

In other words, I was laying down the race card, and not insulting you.

rocknroll

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 06:54 PM

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Excellent post. We need more Americans like you.
Spread the word my friend.
America is being duped and sold-out.
Obama's agenda runs much deeper than the naked eye can see.

SpartanKingLeonidas

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by rocknroll
Excellent post. We need more Americans like you.
Spread the word my friend.
America is being duped and sold-out.
Obama's agenda runs much deeper than the naked eye can see.

Thank you.

That is so true, especially when monster's like the Federal Reserve are screwing America.

We are being taken for a one-way ride and there is no return.

The Creature from Jekyll Island : A Second Look at the Federal Reserve

mrsoul2009

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 07:01 PM

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reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

I should have added - delusions of grandeur...

I mean no disrespect but frankly life is too short.

SpartanKingLeonidas

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 07:11 PM

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If life is too short, then why the reference to delusions of grandeur?

I am a big boy and can take an insult or slight.

I have taken a lot worse from a lot of other people.

Do you feel it necessary to put others down just so you can rise up?

People, as I explained in the original post, this is my perception, and if you agree with it, great, and if you do not agree with it, great, but insults and slights are not needed.

Why do people find it so difficult to have a rational conversation without being nasty?

If you voted for the man, and I did not not, then defend your position.

If I had voted for him I would still be railing about him because of seeing the actions outlined in the original post, as I am someone who sees through lies easily.

I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat, I see only having two choices being forced to pick one of two bad choices, not that the election is fair to begin with.

crimvelvet

posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 09:02 PM

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I would have as well pulled the United States out of the United Nations altogether. That conglomerate of idiocy at the U.N. is nothing more than an excuse for people to hear themselves talk, lie, and use diplomacy as a shield for their corruption.

I agree. The UN is bad but the World Trade Organization which, President Clinton, and his puppet masters Robert Shapiro, Chief foreign trade advisor to Clinton, and CEO of Monsanto and Dan Amstuz VP of Cargill and Goldman Sachs got us in to. Instead of blocking the WTO,Obama and the rest of the democrats are pushingto further the WTO agenda with WTO written anti-farmer Bills

The "FDA is working hard to ensure the safety of food, in collaboration with its Federal, state, local, tribal, and international food safety partners, and with industry..."

I wish the liberals who are so blindly cheering for Clinton and Obama could see what WTO and NAFTA have done to the poor in other countries and what is planned for the USA. Food Supremacy and How to manufacture a global food crisis:

The goal within the WTO, dating from 2000, is to "extend patent laws over all plants and animals (Article 27.3b)” www.africafocus.org...

Keep in mind that four privately owned grain traders control 90% of the grain. They are Cargill, Louis Dreyfus, Andre, and Bunge. Dan Amstutz, who worked for 25 years as a grain trader and VP at Cargill drafted the original text of the WTO Agreement on Agriculture. The Grain Traders say this about Amstutz: “Throughout his very successful career Dan Amstutz represented and championed the ideas and goals of NAEGA membership “ (North American Export Grain Association) Dan Amstutz did not represent the interests of farmers or consumers when he wrote that draft, he represented the interests of the Transnationals. NAEGA: Dan Amstutz Tribute www.naega.org...

WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE NEW WORLDWIDE AG POLICY?
“Bill Clinton Admits Global Free Trade Policy has Forced Millions Of People into Poverty.” [and put billions into the pockets of Transnationals] www.agmates.com...

The Global Diversity Treaty allows Transnationals to patent thousands of years of seed breeding by third world farmers. The European Union is leading the way with laws limiting the sale of seed to only those who can afford enormous fees. The USA has promised to “harmonize” US regs with EU regs. Animal patenting is also targeted with an international patenting service already set up and over 600 animal patents registered internationally. Meanwhile Monsanto sues any farmer found to have GMO crops “volunteering” (that is, appearing without having been deliberately planted) in his fields. In Mexico “...Monsanto ..signed an agreement ,.. to establish regional seed banks.. CNC members were.. charged with assembling collections of native corn to be housed in Monsanto-financed repositories. (Big bucks from Cargill and Maseca-ADM have also funded the seed banks.)...55 per cent of the crops needed to feed the human race are now grown by just ten corporations. The biggest players in this monopoly game are Bayer, Dow, Dupont, Syngenta (once Novartis), and Monsanto...

" “In the EU, there is now a list of 'official' vegetable varieties. Seed that is not on the list cannot be 'sold' to the 'public' To keep something on the list costs thousands of pounds each year, so it's only worthwhile to 'keep listed' varieties that sell in bulk to farmers..” And the USA signed an agreeme to "harmonize" (make the same as) our laws to the EU www.realseeds.co.uk...

If you do not think the Transnationals are after complete control of the food supply read these/b]

INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE FOR ANIMAL RECORDING PATENTING IN THE ANIMAL SECTOR
“...The Patenting Sentinel and Action Service (PSAS) is an important initiative of the International Committee for Animal Recording (ICAR) as regards patenting in the animal sector. This is an issue which is of uttermost importance for the future of all organizations involved in the sectors of animal recording and genetic evaluation. The latest developments in this field and the future prospects are causing increasing concern among industrialists and breeders, thus stressing the need for continuous updating on the progress of animal patenting issues worldwide and raising the awareness of professionals regarding their possibility to take action towards the protection of their professional interests....

ICAR will continue to build on its strength of neutrality and integrity as related to standards and guidelines for animal recording, evaluations and equipment approvals. This will include further strategic alliances with international organizations including EAAP, FAO, IDF, OIE, ILRI, WAAP and ISO.

Animal Patents: www.icar.org...

“...this week the United States and the European Union have signed up to a new transatlantic economic partnership that will see regulatory standards “harmonized” and will lay the basis for a merging of the US and EU into one single market, a huge step on the path to a new globalized world order. The BBC reported from the Summit in Washington on Monday: .news.bbc.co.uk...

At a meeting with the EU committee responsible for Poland’s agricultural terms of entry into the EU (attended by Sir Julian) the chair-lady said: “I don't think you understand what EU policy is. Our objective is to ensure that farmers receive the same salary parity as white collar workers in the cities. The only way to achieve this is by restructuring and modernising old fashioned Polish farms to enable them to compete with other countries agricultural economies and the global market. To do this it will be necessary to shift around one million farmers off the land and encourage them to take city and service industry jobs to improve their economic position. The remaining farms will be made competitive with their counterparts in western Europe.”

“...Farmers...suddenly find themselves heavily controlled by...that most vicious of anti-entrepreneurial weapons: ‘sanitary and hygiene regulations’..These are the hidden weapons of mass destruction ... ridding the countryside of small- and medium-sized family farms and replacing them with monocultural money-making agribusiness. “ www.i-sis.org.uk...

North Farm is the last working dairy farm left for miles. Mr Lawton said: "... all my neighbours have given up. It's become incredibly bureaucratic and it's completely over-powered by bureaucrats - there must be two civil servants in Defra (Department for the Environment and Rural Affairs) for every farmer in the countryside.". ...The sheer amount of paperwork and restrictions on what farmers can do is a problem - it takes up around 60 per cent of Mr Lawton's time. "It's difficult particularly for us family farms who don't have a huge staff for administration," he said .www.thisisswindon.co.uk...