UFO FLEET OF 43 ORBS LargestFleetFootage in USA

reply to post by Beamish


Greetings Beamish,

You say "Please supply definitive proof that the objects in the video are, as you state quite categorically, alien space ships. Anything will do, apart from blind faith."

It right in front of you.

From my perspective you have Blind Faith in what is safe to believe and accept from what you have stated in your message here.

You can look at these video's and any other real video's of these Craft and I understand you will still follow the belief system of needing the proof.

I have posed this question which is a fair one .

How about showing those that understand and believe what is happening in the skies above a video a good one to disprove every UFO Event that has been recorded over the years if you can do that .

I am open to seeing it and I say this with all the sincerity that I can.

Its a two way highway .

Blessings and Peace,
CmdrAleon


[edit on 30-8-2009 by Cmdraleon]

Aleon, let me ask again, this is the question I would really like addressed:

In many videos you have posted, you show a series of bright or lighted objects. Predominantly they: all move at a constant speed (each object), and they do not conduct any maneuvers. You said you feel these SHOW intelligent control. What about their movement is convincing you that this is not simply mistaken identity? That these are not flares, lanterns, ice particles, etc.?

What are they doing that convinces you they are intelligently controlled (locally or remotely)?

Originally posted by fleabit
Aleon, let me ask again, this is the question I would really like addressed:

In many videos you have posted, you show a series of bright or lighted objects. Predominantly they: all move at a constant speed (each object), and they do not conduct any maneuvers. You said you feel these SHOW intelligent control. What about their movement is convincing you that this is not simply mistaken identity? That these are not flares, lanterns, ice particles, etc.?

What are they doing that convinces you they are intelligently controlled (locally or remotely)?

Greetings Flea,

First why does a UFO Fleet have to produce various maneuvers to prove its Intelligently controlled.

In some of the UFO Fleet video beyond these some move about in ways unlike our Jets etc.

Lanterns I have seen Lantern Video footage none of these are that compare a real Lantern video on youtube with another like this .

I have seen Lanterns being put in the air on the fourth of July they were beautiful to see but its not the same as what you are viewing in these videos.

Do you believe in 1952 those were Lanterns moving in the skies past the Whitehouse?

Ice moving ect. ?

Believe me on the video channels google ,youtube etc alot of people add fake video of ufos its appears to be the thing for kids and some adults to do .

Which makes it harder to find what is real.

If you want to believe they might be something other then they are please feel free to do so.

Thank you flea for asking an well thoughtout question.

Blessings and Peace,
CmdrAleon

I'm saying that you are coming to the conclusion that these are intelligently controlled with no reasoning or logic. Other than your preconceived notion that these all have to be alien fleets or drones or whatever.

Even when conventional explanations make more sense, you ignore those, and then make assumptions something is intelligently controlled based on... well, nothing at all.

The only "fleet" video I thought was interesting, was when the "ice particles" filmed, almost formed a perfect circle. Hardly conclusive proof of anything, but a lot more convincing than just random flying particles that don't change speed nor direction.

You say those can't be lanterns.... why not?

They look like lanterns, they FLY like lanterns.. slow and clustered... and certainly not making any movements out of the ordinary. They are not filmed at the start, nor do we see the conclusion. Why not? Probably because over the course of 20 minutes, they slowly drifted away. You know... kind of like lanterns.

That one during the daytime, they look almost exactly like flares. Again, nothing out of the ordinary to assume they are anything else. Did they fly back up again? Why did they stop filming or produce the ending? Because they probably all floated down and stayed there. Because they are flares.

In space, there IS ice you know. There is also debris. Why CAN'T those be debris or ice? Other again, then your preconceived idea that if it's a dot, it must be an alien craft? Where IS the debris and ice, if these are all alien fleets? Why DON'T the astronauts seem to care or notice?

There are some very definitive cases where the focus should be, imo. Those are the cases that can break this all open. When you wave your finger at ice particles and insist they are aliens, you are not helping the cause, you are actually making it worse, I don't know why you don't see this.

Originally posted by grantbeed
The footage looks fairly consistent with Chinese Lanterns to me.

enjoy. G.

Honestly, who the hell goes out and buys 43 chinese lanterns to release for fun?

It is a cop out and you know it.

Here is a link to the full video: 7 minutes in length, showing chem trails along with references:

www.youtube.com...

Honestly, I am not saying these are intelligent craft, but I am also not saying that they aren't. Could be either way.

You UFO skeptics aren't even real skeptics, you guys are cynical to the extreme. It makes me wonder if you guys would truely appreciate the arrival or the disclosure of an ET presence.

reply to post by Troy_
"Honestly, who the hell goes out and buys 43 chinese lanterns to release for fun?"


How about 43 guest at a Chinese wedding.

Sometimes hundreds of these lanterns are released at once and yes just for the fun of it. Have a wonderful day.

Originally posted by kenton1234
reply to post by Troy_
"Honestly, who the hell goes out and buys 43 chinese lanterns to release for fun?"

 

How about 43 guest at a Chinese wedding.

Sometimes hundreds of these lanterns are released at once and yes just for the fun of it. Have a wonderful day.

So we are just going to use this cop out evetytime evidence appears of a UFO fleet?

So you are telling me, all these videos are of chinese lanterns? Did you even watch the full video?

Honestly, that excuse is a cop out and I'm sick of the cynicism displayed here on this site. It is rediculous!

This sighting seems to be in the day...

reply to post by Troy_
"So we are just going to use this cop out evetytime evidence appears of a UFO fleet?"

Yes!

Have a wonderful day

[edit on 30-8-2009 by kenton1234]

Some of this Channel has Fleets:

Link might not even work for exact page.
However I saw at least two of his many uploads that had a fleet.
The interesting part is the location is New York State in the North
of New York City and North part of The Bronx.
At least a few years been filming stranded UFOs and the rescue
trail makers. Working on Earth to ionosphere Tesla currents the
rescue saucer just puts the haywire saucer into the flow.
As easy as that. The smoke screen is to hide the two or more
in the rescue mission. A similar witnessed event is in "Man Made
UFOs 1944-1994 50 years of suppression"

Originally posted by kenton1234
reply to post by Troy_
"So we are just going to use this cop out evetytime evidence appears of a UFO fleet?"

 

Yes!

Have a wonderful day

[edit on 30-8-2009 by kenton1234]

Then why are you even here?

Why don't you go bury your head under the sand?

reply to post by Troy_


My comment and left for the video.
The ever2020 Channel has two fleet videos.
He has many more of trails and stranded sparky UFOs.
The interesting part is the location is New York State in the North
of New York City and North part of The Bronx.
Working on Earth to ionosphere Tesla currents the rescue saucer just puts the
haywire saucer into the flow.
The smoke screen is to hide the two or more in the rescue mission.
A similar witnessed event is in "Man Made UFOs 1944-1994
50 years of suppression"

Originally posted by Cmdraleon

[ex/]

Video #1: Flares.....as per many previous threads

Video #2: Balloons......as per many previous threads

Video #3: That one's worth discussing (objects vs temperature inversion effect).........as per many previous threads.

reply to post by fleabit


Greetings Flea ,

and my question to your why's is this why can it not be Spaceships instead of Debris,Ice,Weather baloons,and Lanterns.

Cannot intelligently controlled craft move without making wild moves that would have you then maybe consider they are something else ?

You seemed puzzled that I feel these are Spaceships .

Maybe we are both seeing different things .

Why cannot I say its a fleet of UFOs and or Intelligently controlled craft?

If I call them a fleet of Lanterns would that make you feel more at ease?

If you want to stick with what you feel it is be my guest .

Blessings and Peace,
CmdrAleon

reply to post by Sam60


The provenance of #3 questionable. I believe it is a "dramatization" of the Washington Flap. I'm pretty sure it was one of those specials that Jonathan Frakes narrated. I had a youtube link but it's dead.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Sam60

 

The provenance of #3 questionable. I believe it is a "dramatization" of the Washington Flap. I'm pretty sure it was one of those specials that Jonathan Frakes narrated. I had a youtube link but it's dead.

Greetings Phage,

This is actual film from that day and year.

I know someone who wrote a book on this which I have somewhere.

Many people wer filming these UFO Craft and many had the camera's taken away .

I will have to find the book on this.

Blessings and Peace,
CmdrAleon

reply to post by Sam60



Greetings Sam60,

First thank you for your opinion on what was in all three videos.

I disagree in the first one from India those are what are called Lightships one of them goes a bit away from the others and then goes into landing mode.

The second one is a fleet of Spacecraft within Mexico airspace and the only people that believe a logical answer on that are skeptics and debunkers .

The third one from 1952 was one of the few films that the Government did not take away .

The Government had been taking away anyone who filmed this fleet of Spacecraft making themselves known in our Nations capital.

A book was written on this event which I will post once I find my copy .

Blessings and Peace,
CmdrAleon

Originally posted by Troy_

Originally posted by grantbeed
The footage looks fairly consistent with Chinese Lanterns to me.

enjoy. G.

Honestly, who the hell goes out and buys 43 chinese lanterns to release for fun?

It is a cop out and you know it.

uh...... maybe people who are celebrating a wedding as the clip states, or maybe an annniversary, birthday etc.

reply to post by Cmdraleon


Which day? July 12th, as the video is labeled? According to the stories, the "flap" occurred later in the month. Nothing was reported as being seeing on the 12th. Nothing remotely resembling what is seen in the video was reported during the "flap".

www.project1947.com...

foia.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 8/30/2009 by Phage]

Originally posted by Chadwickus
You would think an Ashter Commander would know how to embed a youtube video.


Or have you finally come to the realisation that you're not an alien commander posted on earth?

LOL

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