Yeah, you can't really hear the message too clearly through the blast beats and low mixed incoherent growls, but that's kinda what I like about it
in a sense. For me, seeing as I'm not a dude that enjoys vocals a whole deal, with the song title and sound that's conveyed through the music my
imagination becomes really stimulated and pictures start to conjure. One of the great things about music for me.
You are right, though. I'm still trying to look for a band that has brvtal heaviness and stuff with those transcendental elements that really take
you to another place, but it's hard to find that type of music. I think the closest I've come to that sort of music is stuff from the atmospheric
sludge genre. Unfortunately they don't deal with the concepts of aliens and general conspiracies.
To sum everything up, though, I guess I'm just saying I like ideas communicated in the form of badass riffs.
I'm sorry if some of these have already been posted. These are just some that I could think of off the top of my head. Several of the bands listed
below have several songs that could be listed, but I just put a few.
Anthrax and Public Enemy - "Bring the Noise"
Anti-Flag and Billy Talent - "Turn Your Back"
Bad Religion - "Punk Rock Song" and "Los Angeles Is Burning"
Billy Talent - "Red Flag"
Bob Dylan - "These Times They Are A-Changin"
The Clash - "White Riot"
Creedence Clearwater Revival - "Fortunate Son"
Green Day - "21 Guns"
The Living End - "Who's Gonna Save Us" and "Wake Up"
Marilyn Manson - "Arma-God****-Mother-F*****-Geddon"
The Matches - "Papercut Skin" and "The Restless"
Michael Jackson - "They Don't Care About Us"
Muse - "Uprising"
P!ink - "Stupid Girls" (OK, not PTB related or anything like that, but still good)
Rise Against - "Re-Education (Through Labor)," "Hero of War," and "Prayer of the Refugee"
The point is that "badassness" isn't reserved for folks who laugh at quarter-notes.
Emotion is where it is at. Especially in regards to "waking people up"... You simply aren't going to do it with "brutality".
In fact, "brutal" works are counter-productive to the idea.
I mean, if I want people to understand that 9-11 is an inside job, I don't shout it at them with a bullhorn 8" from their ear. I would just get
slugged in the mouth!
How about this one.
Makes you feel happy. The lyrics are easily understood. See what I mean?
I've learned a BUNCH from just *watching* Carlos Santana play. He is awesome.
Originally posted by JayinAR
I mean, if I want people to understand that 9-11 is an inside job, I don't shout it at them with a bullhorn 8" from their ear. I would just get
slugged in the mouth!
Works for the Truther movement, doesn't it?
But I do definitely agree with what you say. Emotion before brutality, but I just can't really manage to enjoy a lot of singer/songwriter works.
It's probably definitely more effective to get a message across, though.
There's a problem, though. When you're a singer/songwriter you have to somewhat try and enter the mainstream and if you're dealing with matters
that are deemed "far out" no one will want you. Being an underground singer/songwriter would be difficult, too, because your message will, half of
the time, be told to a bunch of drunks at a pub. Then, there's that message wasted.
In saying that, though. I'm not too sure what's it like to be out there, anyway. I still have to get on that, but I need a damn stable band with
likeminded people.
How bout just about any punk band from the 70s and up...they have been warning us about the government for at least 30 years.. And telling us about
how corrupt the man is an dhow conformity is for sheep!
now most of em drive around in beamers and mercedes..with 3 kids in the back seat..
I'm a "truther" but I wouldn't DARE shout through a bullhorn 8" from someone's ear!
Maybe from a bullhorn, yes. But not that close. Not THAT loud.
Otherwise, I'm calling a doctor before hand to set up an appointment for a broken nose.
You don't need a band, per se. If you think your stuff through well enough, you can do it on your own.
To me the first thing that comes to mind that i have yet to see on here at all in any way would be the song by puscifer the mission and it goes like
this
What do you know?
What do you know?
What do you know?
The birds and the bees they're all wise to the lies
(What do you know?)
So they took to the trees and took to the skies
(What do you know?)
On top of the chain and safe from the rain
(What do you know?)
What cha' know about the ways of the underside?
What do you know?
Bought a hot shot gat from a north end guinea
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'Cause they're hip to the bull and hip to the lies
(What do you know?)
Ante up with your ass 'cause you ain't got a penny
(What do you know?)
Whatcha' know about the ways on the underside?
What do you know?!
Bought a hot shot gat from a north end guinea
(What do you know?)
Ante up with your ass 'cause you ain't got a penny
(What do you know?)
Droppin' bombs from above cut ya all down to size
(What do you know?)
'Cause they're hip to the bull and they're hip to the lies
What do you know?
Yeah, the streets rose in two perfect waves in the night
(What do you know?)
Crashes on my left, and one on my right
It's all fire and brimstone baby, so let's go outside
(What do you know?)
It's all fire and brimstone baby, I got my brand new pistol baby
What do you know?!
Bought a hot shot gat from a north end guinea
(What do you know?)
Ante up with your ass 'cause you ain't got a penny
(What do you know?)
Droppin' bombs from above cut you all down to size
(What do you know?)
'Cause they're hip to the bull and they're hip to the lies
And they're hip to the lies
Our turn to decide, who lives and who dies
Right in front of your eyes, it's time to get up
Our turn to decide, who lives and who dies
Now answer the lies it's time to get up
Our turn to decide, who lives and who dies
Whatcha' know about the ways on the underside?
I just thought of one that's much calmer than the normal Rap/Metal type stuff I like, I'm not sure Don Henley meant it to be about 9/11 in
particular, I think it's just about corruption in general.
My favorite lines are:
Insect politics
Indifferent universe
Bang your head against the wall
But apathy is worse
Eye on the TV
'cause tragedy thrills me
Whatever flavour
It happens to be like;
Killed by the husband
Drowned by the ocean
Shot by his own son
She used the poison in his tea
And kissed him goodbye
That's my kinda story
It's no fun 'til someone dies
Don't look at me like
I am a monster
Frown out your one face
But with the other
Stare like a junkie
Into the tv
Stare like a zombie
While the mother
Holds her child
Watches him die
Hands to the sky crying
Why, oh why?
'cause I need to watch things die
From a distance
Vicariously i, live while the whole world dies
You all need it too, don't lie
Why can't we just admit it?
Why can't we just admit it?
We won't give pause until the blood is flowing
Neither the brave nor bold
The writers of stories sold
We won't give pause until the blood is flowing
I need to watch things die
From a good safe distance
Vicariously I, live while the whole world dies
You all feel the same so
Why can't we just admit it?
Blood like rain come down
Drawn on grave and ground
Part vampire
Part warrior
Carnivore and voyeur
Stare at the transmitter
Sing to the death rattle
La, la, la, la, la, la, la-lie
Incredulous at best your desire to believe in
Angels in the hearts of men
Pull your head on out
Your head believes it give a listen
Shouldn't have to say it all again
The universe is hostile
So impersonal
Devour to survive, so it is
So it's always been
We all feed on tragedy
It's like blood to a vampire
Vicariously I, live while the whole world dies
Much better you than I
I like IT, Rage, Tool, KRS One, Mos Def, Taleb Kweli and so many more!
Revolutionary music is back and it's being heard. I would have to agree with ProtoplasmicTraveller though, most of it just fires people up without
offering a direction. There needs to be more emphasis put on ways we can achieve these ideas. That being said, quite a few of the artists mentioned in
this thread are walking the talk. IT has just been helping kids in Afghanistan and he is consistently reaching out to anyone and everyone who wants to
help the grassroots movement grow.
This one is as deep as any MC has gone IMO, listen close.......
Edit to add one more, if you haven't seen this clip you got to check it.
Ill Bill, Immortal Technique and Max Calvelera from Sepultura!
Firstly, love the thread, 2ndly glad to see Immortal Technique, Jedi Mind Tricks, NOFX & Evol Intent here....
Most Immortal Tech Is politcal or social commentary & if you can look beyond being offended or disgusted (ala dance with the devil) there are valuable
insights in his music.
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JOSE GONZALEZ - SLOW MOVES
how could this not be in here yet!!! I had suspicions bout this track being NWO themed & a quick google search confirmed it....I #ing love this song
btw...
LYRICS A compromise between honesty and lies
To lead me past their sly disguise
My moves are slow but soon they'll know
My moves are slow but soon they'll know
Behind the scenes they grow their schemes
Hiding intentions revealing only fractions
My moves are slow but soon they'll know
My moves are slow but soon they'll know
They'll keep on whispering their mantras
We'll keep on whispering our mantras
They'll keep on whispering their mantras
We'll keep on whispering our mantras...
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Beautiful, subtle, intelligent lyrics.
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edit: check out 'down the line' video by jose gonzalez, features a man-pig guy with a pig head type head....released many months ago...could be he
foresaw the swine flu reintroduction into the pop....?
"I see trouble down the line...I know that is mine..."
I had to register for this one because I'm surprised at the lack of Clash in this discussion. Sandinista (Named after Nicaraguan rebels) was a triple
album released in 1981, and is loaded with good bits of lyrics like this from "Washington Bullets"
"For the very first time ever,
When they had a revolution in Nicaragua,
There was no interference from America
Human rights in America
Well the people fought the leader,
And up he flew...
With no Washington bullets what else could he do?
'N' if you can find a Afghan rebel
That the Moscow bullets missed
Ask him what he thinks of voting Communist...
...Ask the Dalai Lama in the hills of Tibet,
How many monks did the Chinese get?
In a war-torn swamp stop any mercenary,
'N' check the British bullets in his armoury
Que?
Sandinista! "
And another awesome bit from the song "Midnight Log"
"Voting for the law
That's the general occupation
First comes the public safety
Second comes the nation
You won't believe me now
But there's been some illumination
The wisest cops have realized
They #ed the operation
Cooking up the books
A respected occupation
The anchor and foundation of multi-corporations
They don't believe in crime
They don't know that it exists
But to understand
What's right and wrong
The lawyers work in shifts"
The album, 36 songs averaging 3:30, is loaded with awesome Joe Strummer lyrics. No other album by the Clash is loaded with as much insight and
idealism, and is very often overlooked by most Clash fans infavor of the more tuneful albums like London Calling.