The image of resistance?

reply to post by detachedindividual


My point was this, protest is fine, it doesn't matter who does the damage or hurts someone else, if it happens on either side it becomes a crime not a protest. Freedom of speech and freedom of expression becomes assault, destruction of property, misconduct in a public place, many, many crimes. It's all borderline at one step and the whole protest can land you in jail and destroy your life, is it worth it!

This photo doesn,t represent a riot against a state, or struggle against
anything.

The PSNI are in place to stop Loyalists and Nationalists killing each other.
If they weren,t there we might see a return to another 40 years of trouble
in Northern Ireland. Something i am sure most of the tree huggers on here
wouldn,t want?

Originally posted by LiveForever8
I prefer this one...

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c7a2cc679688.jpg[/atsimg]

Wow that's a great picture. Thanks for telling us where it was taken, and what was going on. Wonder what happened to that woman.



As to the OP, that picture brings up assumptions on whats going on in the picture. I love that look on his face, who knows what he must have been thinking at the moment.

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reply to post by pieman


Thank you pieman.

Now that I know its the real deal all I have to say is...WOW!

I simply love it! It really does speak volumes.

Someone "doing their job" is a cop out statement. Only a machine or a robot "does their" input command job. Humans act out on their own, whether they be a copper or a protester to the coppers. Suit doesn't matter. outfit is an image, i see you on the inside a scared little child.

Now, I haven't been registered on this site very long, but I tend to look at and find that the registration dates of a lot of the people taking particularly small minded and often pro police stances have register to the site very recently. Just thought I'd bring that up. Not all new registers are disinformation agents, but if this site has only grown very popular recently, chances are disinformation agents didn't register before they knew they were reaching a considerable group of bloggers.

I often feel as though yahoo answers is full of nothing but disinformation in every aspect, from health, dating, and to conspiracy topics. Never go to yahoo answers if you want a reliable source of good answers. The site is full of morons or disinformation agents.

reply to post by serbsta


Was it staged? And how could you be sure whether or not? Is it a cop or someone posing as one? MSNBC? GE? Whose pockets are they into? What's to be gained by this image? There's no context except the precious little you've been fed.

Originally posted by elephantstone
reply to post by serbsta

 

int protestors tall these days

That was an Anunaki mate

No, it's not representative of the struggle of your fellow man, rising against the powers of oppression. At least not in this case.

But for all the people that think that any police officer is always an oppressor, i'm sure that it would be a lot better if the police didn't do their job in this case and just allowed the same old tired BS between catholics and protestants to fire up. After all, it s their god given right to fight each other in the name of their particular version of God.

Just remember that for each revolution that freed the people there was another that was used to enslave them. Mussolini's black shirts were rebels themselves fighting the "man". Same with the Franco in Spain, they rebelled after a socialist government won a democratic election. Or in Portugal, the military rebelled against their elected government and instituted 50 years of dictatorship.

So... do look at stuff in context.... context is everything.... The police officer that you are calling a oppressor and a pig, might just be defending your rights.

I lika kill and eata the pigs !!!!

Ya !!!

Originally posted by Anonymous Avatar
I always liked this one...
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d17351ce0b7b.jpg[/atsimg]

Half the people in this one are laughting so obviously they think it's humerous. Any idea what this was?

On a side note as a father that baby looks like it needs a diaper change.

Originally posted by FantasmaTaans
Looks like a anti-boogerpicker shield...

[edit
second line so I didn't have to penalise a one liner that made me laugh]

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Yeah, that was a close one there. If she had gotten to his booger, who knows the damage she could have done. In the wrong hands those boogers are dangerous. It worked, we all need those shields........man, I sometimes think how far we've come as a people, technology really is amazing isn't it? Simply amazing, no booger souflet for her tonight thanks to the innovation of man and his greatest achievements.

Originally posted by exile1981

Originally posted by Anonymous Avatar
I always liked this one...
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d17351ce0b7b.jpg[/atsimg]

Half the people in this one are laughting so obviously they think it's humerous. Any idea what this was?

On a side note as a father that baby looks like it needs a diaper change.

It's a baby standing up for his rights, don't be rediculous.

Originally posted by Phenomium

Originally posted by exile1981

Originally posted by Anonymous Avatar
I always liked this one...
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d17351ce0b7b.jpg[/atsimg]

Half the people in this one are laughting so obviously they think it's humerous. Any idea what this was?

On a side note as a father that baby looks like it needs a diaper change.

It's a baby standing up for his rights, don't be rediculous.

Perhaps he needs his nappy changing coz he just s**t himself, bless.

Originally posted by noonebutme
reply to post by serbsta

 

Out of curiousity, what should I be feeling while looking at this photo.

That's the first time in ages I have been moved to scream at my screen. What are you supposed to feel? You're not 'supposed' to feel anything.

A mind sir/madam is a terrible thing to waste! And you are most definitely wasting yours. Have you forgotten the ATS motto? Deny Ignorance or go back to the main stream media if you want to be told what to feel. Shame on you and shame on everyone who has starred your post.


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Originally posted by serbsta
reply to post by noonebutme

 

'Nutjob protestors'?

I understand your point of view and understand what youre saying. For me, personally, when i first saw this image, it kind of instilled deep emotion, it's really hard to describe, but passionate and angry would be the closest bet.

I suppose it is symbolic and reflective of the times we are living in, state versus the people? Or people versus the state?

Chances are it was a nutjob protester.
I'm from Ireland, and every summer in the North there are plenty of unemployable idiots who hit the pavements to disrupt and intimidate each other during Marching season. The good people don't engage in this purile, pathetic crap because, you know, they have jobs. Or better things to do, at least.

There's nothing romantic or libertarian about this image. these people are idiots. I feel sorry for the cop.



[edit on 18-8-2009 by eniac]

I think what the picture means is that the protester is telling the cop to join him. Asking him why is he fighting for the wrong side.

The cop is surrounded by protesters, and the protester is pointing at him.

THe cop is even smiling almost, as if he understands.

I may be reading a little too deep into this but thats how i see it.

Originally posted by pieman

Originally posted by serbsta
Face-off, a Northern Ireland police officer clashes with Nationalist protesters in Londonderry following a loyalist parade on Aug. 8.

i wanted to find out the story behind this picture, the caption suggests there was more to it that the picture suggests.

Approximately 20 people were arrested today during the Apprentice Boys of Derry parade.

Police said while the parade passed peacefully, officers have been since been responding to sporadic incidents which included stones, missiles and a number of petrol bombs being thrown.

source

so the police officer is up against people throwing petrol bombs......right.

i'm afraid this is more of the same old hateful sectarian rubbish that's always been present in northern ireland. the worst aspect is that i had such trouble finding a source of detail on the incident that this picture was taken at.

if this picture represents your revolution, i want no part of it, thanks.

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I think you may be wrong. The OP states that this photo was taken at the march/protest that came about after the one on the 8th. According to your own source it was the protest on the 8th that petrol bombs were thrown.

Isn't there an appropriate saying in the US...Don't tread on me.

Sadly any UK resident should be very aware of these underhand, overbearing and in many cases illegal activities of the police towards the innocent well behaved taxpayers of this country. They even murder innocent bystanders trying to get home, who are walking away from the police at the time (please someone provide the video link for that incident).These riot police are indoctrinated into a way of thinking of them or us, not protect and serve. It's almost inevitable that such officers overstep the law and end up creating the very violence they claim to be trying to dispel. I bet they've also all been on Common Purpose courses too.

reply to post by sharps


So is it your opinion that the police should back off in this case and let the protestant / catholic protesters sort themselves out?