The image of resistance?

Picture taken during protests in Ireland. I will let this image speak for itself, if a picture speaks a thousand words, this one speaks a novel, or two.[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/af6ea6cff7e5.png[/atsimg]

Every generation needs a new revolution.

-Thomas Jefferson

Source; MSNBC's Pictures of the Week from 6 - 13 of August
Caption: Face-off, a Northern Ireland police officer clashes with Nationalist protesters in Londonderry following a loyalist parade on Aug. 8.


[edit on 18/8/2009 by serbsta]

Looks like a anti-boogerpicker shield...

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second line so I didn't have to penalise a one liner that made me laugh]

[edit on 18-8-2009 by ADVISOR]

Great photo! What's the source??

It almost looks like a poster - a photo you would see in Life magazine or something.

I like it.

That's a great photo indeed! Does it show a new trend of which humanity is passing through? Seems like people from all around the world are starting to get unsettled by something.. I must say, it was time for a new trend already if that's what it is. Complacency disturbs me.

When exactly were these protests in Ireland happening?

[edit on 18-8-2009 by Geladinhu]

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star, and flag to the OP. Yes, yes yes. That's what I'm talking about. The copper is completely stunned by someone simply exerting that they are their own boss.... I love it!

Originally posted by FantasmaTaans
Looks like a anti-boogerpicker shield...

Really.... is this what ATS has come to?


[edit on 18-8-2009 by tmayhew01]

verry nice picture

reminds me off that davinci painting

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Out of curiousity, what should I be feeling while looking at this photo. I read the caption that it's during protests in Ireland, but on initial viewing, the law enforcement officer isn't doing anything apart from having a finger jabbed in his visor.

Is this photo meant to be a catalyst to rise up and fight the law? Are we meant to ignore the law and say, "No, I am not following your rules of society?"

If i'm to infer my own assumptions based on the implied context, then someone is suggesting "No" to being controlled by the officer. That suggests the protest is out of control or getting close. So the officer is keeping people back and someone is exerting themselves. Essentially doing what he's meant to do and what I, a citizen would hope he would do - keep nutjob protesters at bay.

Just my view...

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'Nutjob protestors'?

I understand your point of view and understand what youre saying. For me, personally, when i first saw this image, it kind of instilled deep emotion, it's really hard to describe, but passionate and angry would be the closest bet.

I suppose it is symbolic and reflective of the times we are living in, state versus the people? Or people versus the state?

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Ok, "nutjob" protesters was a bit harsh - I was sort of trying to 'see' it from the other side of the fence, where I fully acknowledge and support peoples' right to "peaceful" protest, but when that protesting infringes on my life or the lives of otehr people not associated with their cause, I then object to it.

Hence the need of the officer(s) - to reign in some control to stop them from 'going to far'.

Which obviously is where peoples' subjective view comes in and says, "What's too far, what's not far enough, etc". I can see people saying that the officer is 'preventing' them from voicing their opinions but likewise, I can appreciate the officer(s) are also trying to keep people from getting out of hand as we all know what humans tend to be like en mass where a riot mentality can spread like wildfire.

Incidentally, it is a pretty cool pic



[edit on 18-8-2009 by noonebutme]

this is a really great photo;
if you guys look at the bottom the cop is grabbing some woman;
and the guy is saying to the cop back off!!! you are the criminal here;

I prefer this one...

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You are completely missing the point.

The context is not what is being questioned here, don't immediately look for a side to take and ignore the message of the image itself!

What this image shows is a person deliberately expressing their defiance of oppression and force. They are expressing their will, their freedom and their rights.

The argument it was taken during is completely irrelevant.

Originally posted by LiveForever8
I prefer this one...

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HA!
that is fantastic

Originally posted by tmayhew01

Originally posted by FantasmaTaans
Looks like a anti-boogerpicker shield...

Really.... is this what ATS has come to?


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Is nose picking somehow more disgusting or crude than talking about anal probes by intelligent et lizrds?
While I thought it low brow it was still funny and helps to lighten an otherwise dark subject.

Great picture S&F
What it says to me, Whe are the people Who do not need body armour or riot shields and batons to intimidate, We have the right to protest and We do not need your permission, We will not bow down to you...

Originally posted by FantasmaTaans
Looks like a anti-boogerpicker shield...

Holy crap that made me laugh. Got the office looking at me now.

Great photo though.

Edit to add: five minutes has passed and I still find this comment funny enough to make me laugh out loud.

Call me a child. Whatever.

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Yes, that is the point of this image. Its symbolic of society's power and force being used against the state, in this case, rage is being expressed.

@LiveForever8: That is a fantastic image, mind if you can tell us the source? To me it looks like it might have been cropped out of something and taken out of context, the composition just doesn't add up for me. Nice picture though!

I don't really see this as resistance or "stickin it to the man," so to speak. I mean the cop looks like he's more or less surrounded, and not really posing much of a threat to any of the people he's near. I kind of see it more as the guy who's finger that belongs to is just trying to provoke the cop into doing something dumb, which then the mob can retaliate against.

Also, to the above post: I honestly don't believe that the armor that riot police wear, and the shields they use are solely for intimidation. Yes, that's a factor. But their own personal protection is the more pertinant reason, I think. That being said, there is some amount of intimidation that they are going for, but if that was the only goal, why not wear medieval body armor and carry braodswords. I think that would be more intimidating that a guy with a plastic facemask and what looks like a hockey helmet.

There is a profound difference between standing up against oppression, and just being a nuisance to society. The police have a job to do, just like all of us, and that doesn't mean we should hate them for it. I mean unless you're goal is to sow the seeds of chaos, and then I guess it would make sense for you to hate them.

Seems to me the arguement and context is relevant. One guy has his hand on a woman, she looks disturbed. And that same man looks surprised, off guard and with the underhand.