None of you have ever seen an extraterrestrial object.

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Ok I will prove it. There is not one person on Earth that has evidence of aliens visiting earth. As you all like to say, they are all over the place, crashing, dying, etc.. So why is there no craft or bodies floating around as evidence? Right there is your proof.

Why is it that nobody can film an ET craft without suddenly getting the DT's and shaking like their out of crack rocks, and why are they always blurry and like 1 minute long?

The UFO crowd is basically like a religion. They just all believe based on faith and too much sci-fi watching. Sure, just like religion, they say that there is evidence.. this blur here or that blur there. Its just like somebody seeing Jesus in a cloud or Mary in a potato.

Calm down people , its ok for people not to believe in something without having absolute proof , they are the ones that will find it hard to accept when when the truth comes out , where the rest of us are saying "and about time , I knew it was true" they will have to adjust there perception of reality .
The truth is coming , probably sooner rather than later

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Dude, I hope you are right. I would love for their to be aliens cruising all around Earth and hanging out and having a beer or two with us. As soon as there is some real proof I will totally believe.

Originally posted by HotDogNoBun
Well why dont you hit the alert button and get some mod to make me go find another hobby.

You stated you didn't want to discuss anything, which is, after all, what this place is for. I see that you have decided to join the discussion now. Good.

Originally posted by HotDogNoBun
Nothing I have posted is any more worthless than anything you have posted.

You hadn't posted anything except:

Originally posted by HotDogNoBun
I agree there is NO evidence of aliens visiting Earth

Except, of course, that the governments all over the world say otherwise. There is plenty of *evidence* and that's why they've all spent a lot of money looking at the evidence.

What you really mean is "proof". There is proof, just nothing that will prove it to *you*. Maybe you'll see for yourself one day, and you'll know it just doesn't fit with any of your explanations. But chances are, you won't.

Originally posted by HotDogNoBun
There is not one person on Earth that has evidence of aliens visiting earth.

Doesn't prove it isn't there, now does it?

Originally posted by HotDogNoBun
Why is it that nobody can film an ET craft without suddenly getting the DT's and shaking like their out of crack rocks, and why are they always blurry and like 1 minute long?

Go out tonight and try to take pictures of the moon. You'll see how hard it is.

I agree that most video footage is rubbish . and I to am sick of seeing vids of lanterns or balloons being described as orbs and UFOs , but I think that when you have military people of the quality of Gordon Cooper saying that they have seen stuff , you cant dismiss that out of hand

Originally posted by HotDogNoBun
The UFO crowd is basically like a religion. They just all believe based on faith and too much sci-fi watching. Sure, just like religion, they say that there is evidence.. this blur here or that blur there. Its just like somebody seeing Jesus in a cloud or Mary in a potato.

You see, that just comes across as trolling. Read the thread and you'll see that is not the case.

Originally posted by TheAftermath
Hovered over a mountain? Really? Flares? Your source? Wait, let me guess, the AF?

try researching the subject first before trolling here.

Mind explaining the physics of how flares would travel laterally across the entire metropolitan area while maintaining elevation?

or better yet, why the AF would drop flares over densely populated areas?

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OUT OF a valley.....if I may add.

SECOND LINE.

Where's the smoking gun? I have yet to see one shred of evidence of Aliens of any sort. I have seen a lot of people making money off of foolish people. How do any of you know that what you saw was extraterrestrial? Everything in this thread could be credited with black ops projects.


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THIS IS SOME EVIDENCE FOR THOSE WHO DONT BELIVE. Just search youtube for nasa secret videos. Just look for the videos that have been filmed by NASA or Military governments. There are tons of them on there. If you notice that it says NASA stopped allowing live broadcast from shuttle missions.

I have a friend who was there and saw it all and THE PHONENIX LIGHTS WERE NOT FLARES. Whoever claims that is a LIAR.

And thus, the military got their wish, by dropping flares to cloud the entire affair. Please see my previous post in this thread. The most prominent lights seen and filmed by Phoenix were indeed, flares. They superimposed the day lit mountains with the nighttime lights, and they all disappeared precisely where the light met any part of the mountain. Indicating they were behind the mountain range. So unless that was a huge, 40 mile long UFO, yes, they were flares.

However, they were dropped AFTER other calls went in reporting sightings of a V shaped craft, and they were dropped in a V formation, in view of the city, like they had never done before. Why? Other than as a diversion?

And now we have a supposed explanation of the other sightings 12 years later? Sorry, not buying it.

Originally posted by aceace
The moon and stars don't count, but lets be honest. With the reports worldwide and with an incredibly large percentage of the population now carrying cell-phones with cameras. There has yet to be one single definitive UFO caught on video.

You may be right. You may not. Do you believe it is possible their is sentient life anywhere other than earth? If not, why not?

Originally posted by Mr Mask
This thread is nothing but an attempt at a close-minded opinion based on nothing more then the OP's collective understanding of "history channel" documentaries.

I wouldn't take his thoughts on anything too seriously.

Not that I am saying he is wrong in his conclusion. But if he is right, its surly by the random chance of picking a side based on what a TV told him.

Not research, experience, insight or consideration.

In fact...I see the thread as nothing more then a bashing attempt on people who trust in a phenomena that has been documented for years.

Its sad to see his limited understanding of that documentation comes from his TV.

My thoughts exactly. It appears that this individual has spent little time reasearching the topic for him/herself. For those of us who have spent years researching, this topic is not to be taken seriously. This is a global phenomena that has been happening throughout history.

I understand being skeptical. Even if you had good pictures of a spaceship and aliens on film, anyone could dismiss it as some hollywood elaborate hoax. I think you would have to take a ride on board the aliens spaceship and film some alien worlds, maybe set down on Mars and film the rovers or do something else extraordinary to prove that something unusual was going on. Some would still not believe it if the rovers found footprints on Mars.

Even if I saw a spaceship or flying saucer, I wouldn't know if it was alien or one of ours. One of my old coworkers once told me there was a flying saucer type of craft immediately hovering above his head when he looked up one time wherever he was at. I saw something in broad daylight but it was shrouded and the only thing I saw was a cloud surrounded by helicopters moving at very low altitude but quickly. That's what I call stealth. You could hide anything in a cloud so I have no clue what was being hid. The helicopters escorting the cloud and moving quickly at very low altitude was highly suspicious. There was a military base in the direction they were going.



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One little problem with the flare theory: How does it explain the giant and silent boomerang shaped object that was reported @ 8:30PM (the Governor saw that one)? I do believe flares were dropped at 10:30PM (those were widely recorded) to possibly confuse the public. The boomerang object had been traveling over the USA and there are records the AF scrambled some jets to intercept. Why would the AF intercept jets if there were only flares out there?

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Seen quite a few strange things in my years, even filmed some othe ufo orbs like those in my avatar which definitely do exist and are being seen all round planet Earth. They may not be ET but they are certainly very incredible and as I do believe they are the same thing NASA term as critters then they probably are everywhere here and there, so ET does exist and you are wrong in your assumption.

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I should also point out that many reliable witnesses have seen metallic objects that are "not one of ours" including Colonel Gordon Cooper. The famous Summer of the Saucers that took place during 1952 had many filmed, radar reports and military pilot eyewitness reports. Project Blue Book had over one hundred unknowns in the time frame, and that was an organization that used weather inversion, weather balloons, swamp gas and other explanations to the extreme. For them to state there were over one hundred cases during the summer that they could NOT explain away should state something.

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Ya I have an answer.

You have no proof that I never seen an extraterrestrial object.

I honestly feel most people think of life at eye level and only in a 10 mile radius of where they live. It takes courage to accept and take in the Big
Reality. We are smaller than ants. Life is enormous filled with limitless possibility. There is no stability. Only two things are certain: death and taxes. No matter how much anyone stock piles for the end of days... eventually you will run out. No stability.
Being a ridgid thinker only limits yourself. Just because you haven't seen it, does not mean someone else hasn't. How many people have seen what's at the bottom of the ocean? Or the back side of the moon? Things exist beyond our comprehension for sure.

To the OP

Have a look in the Mirror and you will be looking at an ET object.
Have a look at the trees outside and you are looking at ET objects.
Everyone sees and interacts with ET objects / technology all day every day.

We could all be using ET tech to post on this topic if you believe the MJ12 Docs [ Roswell anybody ]