NAVY Space Command Uncovered

Originally posted by Phage
Nope. She don't hover. She stays in the atmosphere too.
X-47B

Now guys come on now... where did I say it hovers or leaves the atmosphere? I merely said Navy triangle...

Now who is on the woo woo side of the fence huh?

And yes Herr Wacker it has wheels... but I am kinda partial to it...

reply to post by zorgon


DUDE!!!

That second pic...not the same vehicle.

(I know you like the name on the nosegear door, but....)

The one in the hangar under the flag appears to have two wheels on the nose strut....look at the towbar sticking out. AND it seems to have a windshield.....hardly likely for a UAV.

SO...pic in hangar? Oh....nevermind. Looked at the second pic more, it's the X-47A.....B model in hangar.
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(So why does the B have a "windshield"??? Betting it's a sensor platform or something. Scotty would know....) BUT he'd have to kill us.




[edit on 16 August 2009 by weedwhacker]

Originally posted by weedwhacker
That second pic...not the same vehicle.

The first one is as Phage already pointed out X-47B the second is X-47A... not a whole lot of difference and BOTH are WHITE...

Now why don't you add something constructive for a change and help ID this cockpit (always wondered why they called it that )

reply to post by jaamaan


I am not at all sure what that is supposed to help me out with but uh...thanks. I do not think you actually read my post but ok.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
(So why does the B have a "windshield"??? Betting it's a sensor platform or something. Scotty would know....) BUT he'd have to kill us.

Wind shield? or air intake? or maybe....

Cockpit= Where chickens fight. A seen of combat.

1587, "a pit for fighting cocks." Used in nautical sense (1706) for midshipmen's compartment below decks; transferred to airplanes (1914) and to cars (1930s).

www.etymonline.com...


0CD

reply to post by zorgon


OK.

Went trolling, found This Photo from this site.

I was looking just for similarities to the ejection handles. In the photo, way in the back ( not the subject of the picture ) you can see it's about the fifth seat in the row, looks very similar, even down to the reddish cushion in the seat pan.

I'll look more, but maybe the guy who took the picture may know???
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edit: Continued to fish around, could it be from a B-1???



[edit on 16 August 2009 by weedwhacker]

Originally posted by tauristercus

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by tauristercus
"What EXACTLY are the SPECIFIED roles, duties and missions that these "secret" astronauts and specifically the Navy Space Command WOULD be called on to perform ?"

"What missions and objectives have ALREADY been assigned to, and COMPLETED by, these "secret astronauts" and the Navy Space Command since it's inception ?"

Now that information would be top secret and as such would be treasonable to post...

But I can make some 'guesses' that should be okay

But right now its bed time....

Why would it be treasonable to post ?
It would ONLY be "treasonable" IF, and ONLY IF, you actually had solid, incontrovertiblly hard evidence in YOUR possession. But if it was top secret, then how did you get your hands on it ?

Irrespective of all the links and images you're showing us, it's still essentially only circumstantially linked "soft" evidence and basically only makes for a fairly "interesting" presentation and associated conjectures.

But you need to get to the "meat and potatoes" of your assertions and present a convincing and documented explanation stating WHY and for WHAT reason Navy Space Command was conceived and implemented and PROVIDE samples of the work/missions already carried out by them.

After all, wasn't the intention of your thread to "highlight" the existance of this clandestine organization ? Then forget lasers, forget contrails and pulse detonation propulsion, forget launch facilities, etc, etc ... just come out with a MISSION STATEMENT for this agency and it's "secret astronaut" cadre.

Zorgon ... I'm assuming that you missed my earlier response (see above) as you're obviously deeply engrossed in conjecturing the kind of hardware that "may" be attributed to this Navy Space Command entity that you've postulated as being some kind of military "shadow" organization.

I'm seeing page after page of "interesting" hardware being shown and described BUT as interesting as the hardware side may be to you and others participating in this thread, I'm of the opinion that such information is secondary and it's far more important that you supply (if you can) a verifiable explanation for NSC's reason for existance and why it was created; it's main mission goal, as well as examples of missions both past and current.
I'm sure it was unintentional, but you seem to have side-stepped what should have been the crux of your thread, namely the "purpose" and "mission" of the NSC, and instead got yourself bogged down with "pretty pictures" of real or imagined technology.

So, hardware aside, I'd like to see more attention being paid to the role of the "secret astronaut" cadre that you alluded to and what their purpose is. My understanding of the role of an astronaut is one of a highly trained specialist who performs some kind of service "outside of the Earth's atmosphere".
Perhaps with all your "sources", you could supply more info as to what these "services" may be; whether they're conducted in low earth orbit or within lunar proximity; or even if they involve deep space "services".

that purple eyed UAV is way cool !!!

i hear they are starting to add loudspeaker systems to uav's too, maybe so it can say "by your command"


lol

reply to post by tauristercus


If I may assist on this. Please review this link:

www.fas.org...

On the 2nd page you will find the Naval Space Command seal / logo / emblem.

On page 3 you will find a "Mission Statement"

Notice the cool "Star Wars" type treatment for the catchy mission statement: “Dominating the space dimension of military operations to protect US interest and investment. Integrating Space Forces into warfighting capabilities across the full spectrum of conflict.”

Raw link to host site: www.fas.org... (Federation of American Scientists)

Hope that helps, but I'm sure Zorgon will oblige you.

Additionally, here is a decent thread regarding Secret Shuttle Missions:
(Requiring Astronauts, missions etc. Some great data in there.)

www.abovetopsecret.com...

"The Sky Keeps No Memories" (I can't tell you who said that, it's secret.)

Regards. . . KK


[edit on 16-8-2009 by kinda kurious]

Originally posted by Advancedboy
There werea lot of interesting things going on under USAP, Dept. of Navy

Star for you.
Looks like the USN pulled out of USAP in 1998.
www.nsf.gov...

A ceremony in Christchurch, New Zealand on February 20, 1998 marks a significant milestone in the U.S. Navy's withdrawal from the U.S. Antarctic Program (USAP) after 42 years.

The Christchurch ceremony commemorates the shutdown--or "dis-establishment"--of the Naval Antarctic Support Unit, the Navy unit stationed in New Zealand. The Navy will continue to provide limited flight support to the USAP through the end of the next austral research season (1998-99).

The U.S. National Science Foundation (NSF) will continue to oversee and support the U.S. Antarctic Program, as it has since 1972

USAP current participants
www.usap.gov...

USAP Current Projects and Researchers
www.usap.gov...

[edit on 16-8-2009 by Eden]

reply to post by kinda kurious

If I may assist on this. Please review this link:

www.fas.org...

On the 2nd page you will find the Naval Space Command seal / logo / emblem.

On page 3 you will find a "Mission Statement"

Thanks for the info but after checking the provided link, it would appear that it actually refers to "United States Space Command" and NOT "Navy Space Command".

So I'll wait for Zorgon to post a detailed response to my previous query.


[edit on 16-8-2009 by tauristercus]

Originally posted by tauristercus
reply to post by kinda kurious

 

If I may assist on this. Please review this link:

www.fas.org...

On the 2nd page you will find the Naval Space Command seal / logo / emblem.

On page 3 you will find a "Mission Statement"

Thanks for the info but after checking the provided link, it would appear that it actually refers to "United States Space Command" and NOT "Navy Space Command".

So I'll wait for Zorgon to post a detailed response to my previous query.


[edit on 16-8-2009 by tauristercus]

Actually on that very page "kinda kurious" linked to, it shows that it refers to all these:

United States Space Command
United States Army Space Command
Fourteenth Air Force
Navy Space Command

Did you actually check it or you just ignoring that since it didn't come directly from Zorgon himself since he's your target and "kinda kurious" isn't?

Damnit Zorgon,
I had some cool free energy projects planned for this past weekend and now I'll have to wait till NEXT weekend.
argh..
ah well, I was wanting to put more thought into a 3 wheel design.. Now if only I could construct a sodium laser sending beams from my salt shaker @ home while using a tether linked to each wheel...

see what you started?

b

Originally posted by tauristercus
So I'll wait for Zorgon to post a detailed response to my previous query.

Well I would think guarding the HE3 shipments from the mining operations would be a priority, though most of those ships are robots... but it seems the specifically state they will NOT protect private real estate on the moon

NRL has no involvement, either officially or unofficially, in providing "after-sales service" for the purchase of lunar property from the Lunar Embassy, its franchisees, or any similar organizations. Disputes arising from the purchase of lunar property from such organizations must be resolved with the seller directly.

www.cmf.nrl.navy.mil...

I guess they must have been getting a lot of calls for protection to make it front page on their Navy Clementine website

As to a list of names, ranks and positions of those 'non-terrestrial' officers, well Gary got just a glimpse of those and he is going to jail for life...

It wouldn't be a SECRET space corps if you knew about it

Your 'desire' to know is not worth it though someone sent me a couple names to check

As to the ships... I think there are 5 rectangularish 'cruisers' with one bigger command ship... and 12 triangular ships. (but that was 1999, 10 years ago )

There are some operations on one of Jupiter's moons but I have no data suggesting that is a Navy operation.

Now then for more specific details I could tell you about theCLASSIFIED and what is REALLY going on behind CLASSIFIED and how the 'visitors' from CLASSIFIED are involved... but that would take some time

[edit on 17-8-2009 by zorgon]

Some of those pics don't explain the space vehicles that are being seen through the telescope by a vid camera. Some of those crafts where rotating in the center and one video showed 2 of them come together to dock it seems. I believe that we have had a presence on the moon for years and that this cadre of officers and civilians are part of the program. I was wondering if anybody can find this particular pdf file or pics of a 1960's discussion paper by the military and the govt. showing the military actually on the moon and operating on the moon. It showed and described ships actually landed on them moon with living quarters and labs dug partially in the regolith and also under it on the moon. I'll try to find it but it showed really good detail and how it will be done. What happens alot of times in the US is that sometimes documents that where briefing papers tend to be used as a process (if an organization doesn't use a briefing paper it may be using another submitted or use the one presented but altered a bit.).

Some of those pics don't explain the space vehicles that are being seen through the telescope by a vid camera. Some of those crafts where rotating in the center and one video showed 2 of them come together to dock it seems. I believe that we have had a presence on the moon for years and that this cadre of officers and civilians are part of the program. I was wondering if anybody can find this particular pdf file or pics of a 1960's discussion paper by the military and the govt. showing the military actually on the moon and operating on the moon. It showed and described ships actually landed on them moon with living quarters and labs dug partially in the regolith and also under it on the moon. I'll try to find it but it showed really good detail and how it will be done. What happens alot of times in the US is that sometimes documents that where briefing papers tend to be used as a process (if an organization doesn't use a briefing paper it may be using another submitted or use the one presented but altered a bit.).

Originally posted by hoghead cheese
Some of those pics don't explain the space vehicles that are being seen through the telescope by a vid camera.

No? Well maybe these will help

American





BIGGER PICTURE


Russian

Beautifully designed thread Z! S+F

The Most interesting read I have found yet on ATS. Keep up the good work!!


Peace

Originally posted by nightmare_david

Originally posted by tauristercus
reply to post by kinda kurious

 

If I may assist on this. Please review this link:

www.fas.org...

On the 2nd page you will find the Naval Space Command seal / logo / emblem.

On page 3 you will find a "Mission Statement"

Thanks for the info but after checking the provided link, it would appear that it actually refers to "United States Space Command" and NOT "Navy Space Command".

So I'll wait for Zorgon to post a detailed response to my previous query.


[edit on 16-8-2009 by tauristercus]

Actually on that very page "kinda kurious" linked to, it shows that it refers to all these:

United States Space Command
United States Army Space Command
Fourteenth Air Force
Navy Space Command

Did you actually check it or you just ignoring that since it didn't come directly from Zorgon himself since he's your target and "kinda kurious" isn't?

Firstly, I take offense at your insinuation that I have some kind of personal "agenda" with Zorgan or alternatively, that I am "targeting" him deliberately in a negative way.
Let me assure you that such is NOT the case ... my reason for directing my comments and questions to him specifically is purely because he is the ORIGINATOR of the thread and obviously the one best suited to answer my questions based on his "extensive" NSC research.
I tend to think my questions are perfectly legitimate as his thread revolves around the existance of a clandestine military organization that most of us have not heard about ... that is, until he made mention of it in this thread ... and the "secret astronaut" corp that he has alluded to, in the process.

Now, you all may be quite thrilled, ecstatic, amazed, (insert your own suitable adjective here) regarding the hardware being displayed BUT I'm sure that I'm not the ONLY one who is far more interested in the actual role and mission that the NSC ... and it's "secret astronauts" ... have performed in the past, and also currently. I feel that's a heck of a lot more important to know then discussing whether a piece of aeronautical hardware produces a visible effect when hitting Mach speeds.

Secondly ... yes, I HAVE read the site but while there is a reference to a "Naval Space Command", I have seen NO reference whatsoever to a "Navy Space Command" as Zorgon mentions multiple times.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/af6fbde91ed7.jpg[/atsimg]

Am I perhaps, to assume that Zorgon went to the trouble of compiling this huge ensemble of evidence to showcase the existance of this military organization with it's secret agenda and it's secret astronauts ... and then goes and completely stuffs up the name of this organization ??