What’s Killing The Birds It’s Astronomical!

Found this interesting article on bees getting tired...

It is unclear why bees are struggling, but bad weather may have played a role.

Bees fly less when it is wet and cold, meaning they have to work doubly hard to collect pollen and nectar when it clears us.

Wet weather also washes pollen off plants, leaving stores low and forcing bees to fly further afield than usual.

Miss Osborne said: 'Many people keep seeing bees on the ground and assume they are dead, but chances are they are having a rest.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

Originally posted by mamabeth

If there is something in the air.The first humans who will feel the
effects,will be those with asthma,or other respiratory conditions.
Also,keep a look out for butterflies.They are very susceptible to
changes in our environment.

Freaky, I have been having asthma attacks the last few months like I used to get as a child? I hope this isn't related, if it is chem trails et al then I'm doomed....

Also noticed the absence of birds, not seagulls though which is a shame

[edit on 12-8-2009 by slinkey10]

Originally posted by slinkey10

Originally posted by mamabeth

If there is something in the air.The first humans who will feel the
effects,will be those with asthma,or other respiratory conditions.
Also,keep a look out for butterflies.They are very susceptible to
changes in our environment.

Freaky, I have been having asthma attacks the last few months like I used to get as a child? I hope this isn't related, if it is chem trails et al then I'm doomed....

Also noticed the absence of birds, not seagulls though which is a shame

[edit on 12-8-2009 by slinkey10]

I also have an asthma like condition. I developed an allergy to perfume
I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I sometimes have to wear a mask
when I'm out in public.You can imagine the stares I get.
I live close to an airport and a military base.I have seen the chemtrails in the skies.I even argue with my husband about them.He insists they are
contrails and I know better.
If there is something killing all these birds ,and other wildlife,we'll know
soon enough.

The Birds, bees hopefuly not the Flowers and the trees....
-It really could be a number of scenarios, contamination in the environment casused by chemtrails,
fluctuating temperatures, extreme weather conditions,
unregular unusual shifts in seasonal patterns., to name just a few.;

reply to post by Phlynx


As far as I know the bird flu has combined with the swine flu. One bird was diagnosted with west nile, from mosquitos. It makes me wonfer if some scientist is manufacturing this stuff in a lab.

[edit on 13-8-2009 by wonderworld]

reply to post by SheaWolf


Yes I read some about Starlings. What concerns me is how they are being terminated. It seems likely a robin or other birds would also be affected.

It's very important that people start looking for birds, either out your window or when out driving. (cautiously) In my area I have not seen any. I may have missed some but it's not a typical summer.

reply to post by JBA2848


Thanks for that link. That also makes sense about the outside temperature. What ever the causes, it's not Mother Nature, as I have known it.

reply to post by BiohazardsBack


Wow, it's nice to get info from Ottawa. That does sound odd. Dead birds on the sidewalk.

It also makes me curious, as to how many birds are tested for disease if a spray mission is going on.

reply to post by spiritwomyn


Yes, "what we dont know cant hurt us" although we all no something isnt right.

Swine has monetary value,, birds do not. It's almost unthinkable that they would kill all the birds to prevent a worse epidemic.

It would throw off the entire eco-system.

Hi WW, it was a couple weeks ago and darn it I can't remember the exact show but it may have been Discover Channel or Animal Planet, where they did a special about sparrows being an epidemic breed in many metropolitan areas, and the problem is spreading. They showed one inner city area where they have all kinds of special washing equipment and the workers have to get out before dawn every day and wash down the sidewalks and streets because of the droppings being so profuse, and no it wasn't from pigeons it was sparrows. I suspect there is poison being set around.

Also, they said these sparrows are carrying virus and some other bacteria that is relatively new. I really just caught bits and pieces of it because I was on the phone or something but will see if I can find that show. It might have even been PBS.

reply to post by MastaG


What's odd about the tired bees is we are still missing the honey bees and have an increace in African killer bees.

reply to post by slinkey10


Barium and aluminum oxide, among other checicals being sprayed for cloud seeding, causes respiratory ilnesses. Many doctors have reported after heavy spraying days more people get sick.

That is only one idea.

reply to post by catalyst2466



That's a good perception but you forgot one. Intentaional poisoning.

reply to post by Bombeni


Hi Bombeni,

That's interesting. I still wonder how they can poison sparrows and not all other birds in the area.

I hope they dont take the poison back to feed in the nests. It seems so cruel and a painful way to go.

reply to post by wonderworld


Well I will have to do a more thorough reading and try to find that show, but it could be the bacteria they spoke of and or the virus did them in. I definitely want to follow this and see what they come up with.

reply to post by Bombeni


Others have mentioned a bacteria and also a virus. The ones on the first page I listed ruled out bird flu but dont know about other diseses? I hope you fine something. Thanks

Originally posted by wonderworld
reply to post by Phlynx

 

As far as I know the bird flu has combined with the swine flu. One bird was diagnosted with west nile, from mosquitos. It makes me wonfer if some scientist is manufacturing this stuff in a lab.

[edit on 13-8-2009 by wonderworld]

There was something like that on the news. It was discussing the possibility of someone getting avain flu and swine flu at the same time, and it mutating together. They said it could possilby get the death rate of the avian flu (70 percent death rate) and the spread rate of the swine flu. The article also said theat scientist would be doing tests to see if that could happen. What if it got loose from a lab? Only time will tell what happens.

Originally posted by wonderworld
reply to post by BiohazardsBack

 

Wow, it's nice to get info from Ottawa. That does sound odd. Dead birds on the sidewalk.

It also makes me curious, as to how many birds are tested for disease if a spray mission is going on.

Yeah it was pure luck that this thread happened to interest me, either from my email or the sidebar I do not remember, but yes, the birds had been leaving me a little shaken (I really don't like to see dead things, my boyfriend has to calm me down afterwards if we see one...)

I do not think they are being tested, the ones I saw. They had both been...pretty severely damaged, either by a bicycle, or some sort of animal. Probably a pet cat or dog since there is positively no wilderness-type animals near me.

reply to post by Phlynx

Just to clarify, Swine Flu (H1N1) already HAS avian genes in it. It has human, swine, avian, and equine (horse) genetics in it already, which is so ridiculously rare.
So it could already have gotten into birds without having mutated.

But as far as I know, no birds in north america have the "avian flu" (H5N1) so they would not in fact combine to become more deadly.

Though it is very plausible that swine flu could be more deadly in birds. It would probably work differently in every species.


And it is not so much that bird flu and swine flu combined since it became a problem, it has been in there ever since this epidemic popped up (I consider it an epidemic when the government of Canada suddenly decides against informing the population how many are ill after having kept online records for weeks/months)

(I read too much)

reply to post by Phlynx


From what Ive read,, this flu is transmitted, bird to swine, swine to bird, both to humans and humans to animals. So at the present time I think the HINI is both Avian/Swine and possible a bit of west nile.

reply to post by BiohazardsBack


Wow, that makes me wonder if the H!N!/Avian is transfered from pets to human. That is a bit scary.