Freemason 32nd Degree Ritual

It is obvious that the person posting as Mr Necross is very eccentric at best or perhaps in need of professional help. Mr Necross hates the Freemasons and hates Freemasonry in a way that is not rational or healthy. Only he will know why he has this hatred. He reminds me of the people in the United Kingdom who lived in mental homes and when care in the community was adopted as a Government policy were thrown into the community. The result was that many of these poor sick people could not cope and could be seen in the streets of the UK talking to themselves or bus stops or attacking people without any rational cause. When people have a wicked hatred of any idea or section of the population I think they need medical help; so that they do not harm themselves or any one else. Mr Necross in my opinion is the King of the Trolls. We should feel sorry for this eccentric person.

Brother Gerard

[edit on 12-7-2004 by Gerard]

In future please post my hate mail either directly to me or in the thread you created - this thread is for research of Masonic ritual and religion.

but your attacks against masonry are fairly hateful as well.

though, as I have noted before, i really want to thank you for posting the SR ritual... I have now decided not to wait another year to go through those rites, and to do it before the end of THIS year. You have done me a service, and I thank you.

More light is masonry is what I seek, and I encourage others to read the information he has posted. While it is not an accurate reflection of the rituals, it does make very interesting and illuminating reading, and while Mrnecros sees evil in it, there was only beauty in my eye.

Evil, I guess, sees evil wherever it looks...

Mrnecros.. your real name wouldn't be Samael Moser, would it?

In Freemasonry we are in search or more light. As Freemasons we are told to make a daily advancement of Masonic knowledge. As a Freemason I try and make this possible. With the advent of the Internet and websites for Freemasons and non Freemasons this is a very easy objective to fulfill. Life is for living and spending your time in a useful way.
Gerard

Originally posted by MrNECROS
In future please post my hate mail either directly to me or in the thread you created - this thread is for research of Masonic ritual and religion.

Get down off your high horse there, dude. You're way too full of yourself.
This thread is not for research as you claim.

It's here for you to tell lies about masonry and for you to arrogantly try to show of your so-called knowledge about the subject.

If you seriously wanted to discuss the subject, you wouldn't have written all of those lies, would you?
Personally, I don't hate you. I pity you.

The problem I have with Mr Necross is that what he writes is not the truth. I am not the only person who says that. If only he would consider that he could be wrong about Freemasonry.
Gerard

Its funny how a thread about a bunch of religous charity workers can generate so much interest and claims.

No other charity groups get these kind of problems so why waste your time with freemasons? they are just normal people searching for god in their own way. They are not special, they have no real power in the world, just a few men having a drink and shaking hands rasing money for people who need wheels chairs etc.

Forget about them, they are nothing special. Just another group........!

Originally posted by 7th_Chakra
Forget about them, they are nothing special. Just another group........!

exactly!! why can't there be more people like you in the world there is no hidden global conspiracy when it comes to freemasonry, just another society. Don't believe everything on the internet

Originally posted by Gerard
The problem I have with Mr Necross is that what he writes is not the truth. I am not the only person who says that. If only he would consider that he could be wrong about Freemasonry.
Gerard

Gerard,

He doesn't want to tell the truth. He KNOWS the truth. But it's no fun. To say wrong things and get people stirred up is his sick way of finding pleasure. Ignoring him is the best way to handle him) You and I (and the other Freemasons on the group) know the truth. ...and unlike another post here, it's NOT just another society....it is very unique, but in a way that ONLY a Freemason can understand and appreciate. A "profane" cannot experience it no matter what he or she reads and no matter how many of the supposed "secrets" he or she may know. It's that simple.

Fraternally,

He doesn't want to tell the truth. He KNOWS the truth. But it's no fun. To say wrong things and get people stirred up is his sick way of finding pleasure. Ignoring him is the best way to handle him) You and I (and the other Freemasons on the group) know the truth. ...and unlike another post here, it's NOT just another society....it is very unique, but in a way that ONLY a Freemason can understand and appreciate. A "profane" cannot experience it no matter what he or she reads and no matter how many of the supposed "secrets" he or she may know. It's that simple.

Fraternally,


You are right only a Freemason will know the intimate feeling of being in a Masonic meeting. The Profane can study our rituals and learn some of our secrets but the one secret they will never learn is the secrets that we keep in our hearts. Our society is unique and only the Brethren will now and understand that.
Fraternally
Gerard O'Donnell

Actually this book was written by Brother Charles T Mc'Clenachan 33rd Degree and Past Grand Master of Ceremonies for the Supreme Council of the Northern Juristiction of The United States of America in 1884.
(Think I've mentioned this once or twice before.)
As much as I'd like to take credit for all these "lies and falsehood etc... I'm afraid I can't.

What can be unique about your society??

From what your saying you search for god and you raise money. Nothing special in that, just sounds like a mens club with a good cause. All these names you give yourself and rituals are just to make yourselfs feel important. If you search for enlightenment people do that on an individual basis, they do not need to form groups and give each other names that mean nothing.

Your not special or unique, your just another group. I have respect for your charity work but thats about all you really do that is important in the world.

Originally posted by 7th_Chakra
What can be unique about your society??

From what your saying you search for god and you raise money. Nothing special in that, just sounds like a mens club with a good cause. All these names you give yourself and rituals are just to make yourselfs feel important. If you search for enlightenment people do that on an individual basis, they do not need to form groups and give each other names that mean nothing.

Your not special or unique, your just another group. I have respect for your charity work but thats about all you really do that is important in the world.

I consider my membership of Freemasonry to be unique. There is something that is very personal about being a Freemason and the Profane and the Cowans will never understand that. As Freemasons we are a society that does a lot more than charitable works. We are a society of men who have a moral code and a fellowship that is Universal. It is only when you become a Freemason that you will understand these things. Our rituals may be read by the Profane and in part understood by them but that is all they will understand.

Gerard

Guys, I don't like the word "Profane". Can we not use it when generalising about non-freemasons, please?

As for wether or not Freemasonry is unique?
Can you tell me of any other societies where a king would sit with a window-cleaner? Or a Muslim with a Jew?

Maybe the whole idea of a Muslim sitting with a Jew seems preposterous to you but I bowl in a team that has a muslim, a christian and 2 bhudists in it.
Maybe you should try bowling?

Originally posted by MrNECROS
Maybe the whole idea of a Muslim sitting with a Jew seems preposterous to you but I bowl in a team that has a muslim, a christian and 2 bhudists in it.
Maybe you should try bowling?

And there are millions of members in your bowling team?

Yes, there are millions of bowlers all around the world in case you are unaware of it, I have lived and bowled in leagues in the UK, Australia, Malaysia, Germany and Thailand.
As far as I'm aware, most leagues are open to all members of the general public regardless of race, religion and social status.
In fact that is the case with most social clubs.
Is that not the case in your home town?
But I digress - please try to keep in line with the subject heading 32nd Degree Ritual.

Sorry. I don't take orders from you.

As for your comment on bowling: it's hardly the same thing is it? In case you didn't notice - the other teams are competing against you.

Originally posted by MrNECROS
Maybe the whole idea of a Muslim sitting with a Jew seems preposterous to you but I bowl in a team that has a muslim, a christian and 2 bhudists in it.
Maybe you should try bowling?

Comparison of Freemasonry to a bowling team on the pretense of religious, and ethnic equality? What if one of your "bowling teams" got out of line and wouldn't be so accommodating in their membership requirements (heck, what if you were just a bad bowler and no one wanted you). Would the Brunswick Grand Lodge (or are you in AMF's jurisdiction) put their foot down and get them to "toe the line" (little bowling humor there). Makes as much sense as any of your other posts, I guess. Monkey out.

We have seen the King of Trolls on this board again. For a man who hates the Freemasons I am surprised that he would want to post on this board in case the wicked Freemasons give him bad dreams or mental problems.This man is very eccentric and has a very troubled mind. If you live in the UK you can get help just see your local GP and he will get you the help that you so badly need. When people hate something or some group of people to the extent that you do; they need medical help.So that they are not a danger to the public or themselves.

Gerard O'Donnell