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Originally posted by argentus
I would like to see this issue go away. I think it is tearing the solidarity of the nation apart -- polarizing -- and causing undue attention at a time when the United States is at so many pressing and pivotal points.
To paraphrase Whatyoukno, perhaps that is the goal.
But the really fun part of this:
www.starbulletin.com...
... Hawaii doesn't issue long forms.
Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
Oh brother! Come on people! Obama is not going to go anywhere, I don't care what conspiracy surrounds his birth. Also if you think for a second Americans would take to the streets in protest let alone start a civil war you are nuts. Americans are pacified, uninformed, morons for the most part.
You guys act like Obama is worse than any President of the last 50 years. WAKE UP! This country fell from grace way before this clown got into office. America had her chance to vote for a truly liberating candidate, Ron Paul. They failed miserably even "laughing" at the guy. Americans need to suck it up and accept the consequences of their decision to vote Obama into office. He's a plant. Put their by a very powerful group of people. An empty suit is a compliment for Obama. I can't stomach to even watch this turd talk. But I didn't vote for him. All the other stupid Americans that did deserve to suffer under his regime.
[edit on 20-7-2009 by Zosynspiracy]
Originally posted by jam321
Obama is now in a better position than ever to provide proof that is BC is legit, even if it isn't. He could easily get the people in Hawaii to produce a legit one in exchange for under the table favors.
How about a 3 nite stay in the Lincoln bedroom? How about a trip overseas via AF1? How about some connections to some influential people? How about some money?
Either way, Obama survives and will be President till 2012.
I still say the best thing he could do is just show that darn piece of paper.
Originally posted by harrytuttle
And how many of you have links to George W. Bush's "long form birth certificate"?
*crickets*
I thought so.
Oh, but since Bush is white and from Texas, no need to question that honorable man, right?
However, a black man with an international family background, well then, we must question him like no one has ever been questioned before.
This is a racist witch hunt, start to finish. Ask yourself, did you ever ask for George W. Bush's long form birth certificate. Did you read it with your own eyes?
How about Clinton's? George H.W., Reagan, Carter, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, etc...???
Nope. None of you have ever seen or read the "long form birth certificate" of any U.S. President.
But now that we've got a black guy in the White House, suddenly it's top on your list of "must see's".
If it looks like racism, smells like racism, sounds like racism, then take a guess at what it is.
Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by soldiermom
What are you talking about? Obama has only been President for what not even 9 months? I hate Obama as much as anyone. But to think he's the worst President in the last 50 years after only less than 9 months as President is completely ignorant. And don't even start with the economy. The economy was in crisis WAY BEFORE Obama stepped into office. If it wasn't for the current economic crisis most people wouldn't be batting an eye at the current administration. The only time Americans pay attention is when it affects their pocket book. And that is no way to run a country. I don't put too much stock into an American populace that is more worried about having the latest cell phone than what cap and trade is. And you expect these same people to riot in the streets? LMAO! No these same morons aren't going to riot in the street they'll probably end up robbing you and me at gun point or worse yet voting another yahoo into office that will promise them more free # and gubmint cheese!
Originally posted by daddyroo45
Originally posted by harrytuttle
And how many of you have links to George W. Bush's "long form birth certificate"?
*crickets*
I thought so.
Oh, but since Bush is white and from Texas, no need to question that honorable man, right?
However, a black man with an international family background, well then, we must question him like no one has ever been questioned before.
This is a racist witch hunt, start to finish. Ask yourself, did you ever ask for George W. Bush's long form birth certificate. Did you read it with your own eyes?
How about Clinton's? George H.W., Reagan, Carter, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, etc...???
Nope. None of you have ever seen or read the "long form birth certificate" of any U.S. President.
But now that we've got a black guy in the White House, suddenly it's top on your list of "must see's".
If it looks like racism, smells like racism, sounds like racism, then take a guess at what it is.
In all the above named situations BOTH parents were U.S citizens. So there is no issue about a foriegn born parent passing on citizenship. As far as the deceased presidents it should be no problem to get a copy of their C.O.L.B. from the presidential libraries. Racism,that is the battle cry of the weak,when the position is indefensible. Which half of his blood line should racist people be prejudiced toward?
Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
Originally posted by harrytuttle
And how many of you have links to George W. Bush's "long form birth certificate"?
Why not just use his opposition (McCain) from the recent election, for comparison?
*crickets*
I thought so.
exactly... as there were questions raised regarding His ability to hold office as well. the exception being that those were quickly dispelled, he was born on a military base in the Panama Canal Zone... and as such American "soil". All neat and tidy, legal even.
Oh, but since Bush is white and from Texas, no need to question that honorable man, right?
With regards your mentions of this being little more than a race issue, it would seem you're the first to lay That card on the table in this thread. hmmm... odd.that.
I've no dog in the fight either way. But with the amount of hoopla this has generated since late last summer, and what with the numerous suits filed as a result thereof, it just seems ridiculous that it's been left unnaddressed in a "once and for all" fashion for this long... honestly.
As sooo many government officials have stated on sooo many an occasion, no matter the context of their words, "If you've nothing to hide then what's the problem?"
turnabout is fair play. no?
I personally haven't seen or read where Mr. Obama has outright refused to provide a copy of or the original, nor do I feel the recently signed legislation affords him the ability to restrict access to the same, but it would seem ridiculously easy to put the whole issue to rest once and for all by merely putting it on the record.
as Staples says:
It's That Easy!
... and it would seem quite the no-brainer for so eloquent a speaker, one looking to make a change, a difference, one seeking to restore the people's confidence in their government, one who touted throughout their campaign, "Yes. We Can!"
... yet hasn't.
wash. rinse. repeat.
Of course, I fear a racial civil war could occur in that situation. This post may come of as racist.. However it's not my intention to discriminate (BTW isn't it BS that I have to clarify this stuff? Equality sure is alive..)