Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

reply to post by JScytale


4) you need to take your own advice and read the 'Rebuilding Americas Defences' document where they outline their intention to create useable, race specific bioweapons as viable weapons of war.

www.globalpolicy.org...

reply to post by antonia


I would warn that A)statistics are generaly collected by untrustworthy think tanks, quangos, and government departments, and are manipulated to fit whatever plan is at the fore of governance at the time. B) The fear that comes in where ever a relationship goes one step further between a man and a woman, can often lead delicately balanced individuals into spiraling depressions which can lead to drugs and alchohol. C) Adding to that fear a lack of support when a problem arises is asking for suicides to go on the up ... trust me , I almost took a flying leap a couple of years ago over something a little like that.

reply to post by Neo_Serf


If this is exactly what they have planned (and I think your correct) just who do they think will bother with innovation and new ideas and science and technology? There is NO incentive to produce when these failed ideas take shape in any country its been tried with. There will be two classes and that's what they think they want. The elite and the slave. I'm really wondering if they think that it will be easy to control us. I don't know the people personally that will knuckle under to this easily. Most of the folks I interact with are not folks to lay down easily. There are going to be piles of bodies and not necessarily those of the serf class should this all comes to fruition! There are lots of folks like me. Well trained with nothing to lose but their precious freedom and willing to fight to keep it. Even when so many will not!

Zindo

reply to post by mopusvindictus


Thats why Im glad my mother is a fighter not a quitter. She'd hate me for saying this, but shes not that different from her dad lol.

reply to post by ZindoDoone


I have only been trained by life. That said I know a thing or two. You dont grow up liking heavy music without taking flak now and again so to speak. All I know is, that no matter which side of the pond this starts, Im going to be helping end it. And hells mercy to anything in my way .

reply to post by ZindoDoone


Best way to enslave a populace is to make them enslave themselves. We have people in this thread in favour of a mass culling or sterilization that would have made Hitler blush...and this is on a conspiracy site among so called free thinkers! Imagine a normal cross section of regular folk and what they might go along with if frightened sufficiently...

How easy do they think it will be, you say...

reply to post by TrueBrit


Hey Tru Brit,


Yep...Obama's Eugenics is straight up "Survival of the Fittest"...

How can we lower health care funding and spending? Only pay for the fit and young....they want to start denying healthcare ( government intervened) for the elderly and the terminally ill......

Check this out

Eugenics: Department of Bioethics (euthanasia education) at the United States Institutes of Health idea to cut down health care costs is the Nazi method which is to deny care to elderly, chronically ill, and poor people, whose lives are considered of less value. SURVIVAL OF THE FITEST

larouchepac.com...

reply to post by antonia


I was a Mistake.

And I'd like to think I have turned out quite nicely

I think what we tend to forget is that the only real resource is the Human resource, I am not sure any child is ever a mistake.

For sake of numerics how many mistakes does it take to produce a Gandhi? Or an Einstein?

If one child grows up to create the "penicillin" of a generation was that child a mistake?

I just having had 3 of my own, don't see where it actually takes that much money to raise a child well... Health care and school and food and Love

Food already often rots in Silos, School takes 1/50th the cost of Missiles and Health care it seems is on the way...hopefully

I can't really find the economic woes children create when the Budget has looked like THIS For the last 60 years for all intents and purposes.


Of course responsibility should always be taught, encouraged and fosters...

But when I look again at the above graph and examine the slice of the pie Children and Mothers and Schools actually get

It becomes very obvious why Responsibility or even the knowledge of how to be responsible is in such a state as it is.

reply to post by TrueBrit


You probably are correct. I don't view welfare as a serious problem. That solution was one i gave to those who have a burr up their butts about the issue at hand. I think it's just people needing to feel superior though. My life is pretty boring really. I've only had two boyfriends in my life, i married the 2nd one at 23 and still have no kids at 27. This is intentional. It's nothing to do with my wanting a job (i don't have one, i just take classes atm can't seem to find a job, story of everyone's life these days it seems) but rather i feel it would be unfair to bring a child into this kind of world. All that being said, if i did have a kid and my husband suddenly went off the deep end and wanted a woman who wasn't ugly well i wouldn't think somehow there shouldn't be some help to feed my child. We can spend millions studying the habits of houseflies and buying cushy toilets but we can't help singly mothers feed kids? Give me a break.

Originally posted by Neo_Serf
reply to post by ZindoDoone

 

Best way to enslave a populace is to make them enslave themselves. We have people in this thread in favour of a mass culling or sterilization that would have made Hitler blush...and this is on a conspiracy site among so called free thinkers! Imagine a normal cross section of regular folk and what they might go along with if frightened sufficiently...

How easy do they think it will be, you say...

who the hell said they were in favor of mass culling or sterilization? people have pointed out overpopulation is a real threat and something has to be done, but no one supported those ideas.

reply to post by antonia


I would say not having a child yet at 27, is not a bad thing

I had my first at 20 and am 38 now.

It has it's pros and cons... I have no regrets, but in truth intellectually and economically I have not found my true self until now and could readily still have many more.

with that said, my first is now on a full ride college scholarship to college and positively a brilliant addition to the right side of things in life.

If you actually care about the world you live in and think the things you do, perhaps you are the type of person we need to put children into this world.

Someone should counter act the thoughtless and inane or it becomes self fulfilling prophecy that the world is a bad place to raise children.

Money is not much of a factor in the children you produce or where they go if you have light and intellect.

reply to post by Neo_Serf
And True Brit.

I agree with both of you. Read my Signature and you'll see that I know that many forget history if they think they they will be the one calling the shots! History proves that when you depend on others for your opinions and your daily bread, you usually end up in the soup for supper one way or another! They get tunnel vision and ignore centuries of human nature and think they can just manipulate everyone no matter the consequences! It usually ends up biting them in the butt!

Zindo

reply to post by JScytale


So people agree its a problem, and something has to be *done*..but no one is in favour of the *doing*?

Doublespeak is ungood.

I've found the complete J.Holden stuff in a pdf-file on scribd.com
Get it here.
REPORT: Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens.


Website from Paul R. Ehrlich the Co-Writer from the book.
Paul.R.Ehrlichs Website






[edit on 13-7-2009 by D0MiNAT0R 1OOO]

Forced sterilization and abortion was well practised in sweden between
1934-1976,in purpose to prevent that so called "incompetent" people
not should be raised into the "normal" society.For example mentally retarded,gypsys,travellers,criminals.And when the parents social circumstances was considered to lead to useless offspring.

Originally posted by WhatTheory
What is going on here?

This is totally unbelievable that there is a person who has the ear of Obama and who Obama made czar with this sort of radical views and opinions.

This guy is a total fascist/Marxist and it further supports the case of Obama being a Marxist/fascist. How on Earth can anyone with these sort of radical views even be allowed any position of power.

This is some crazy [stuff]. Obama is dangerous! Look out!
Yay! Hope and change we can believe in.

zombietime.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 7/13/2009 by WhatTheory]

 

Removed censor circumvention and replaced it with [stuff]

[edit on 13/7/09 by masqua]

How on Earth can you claim that this guy is Marxist, and thus Obama is a Marxist? That's a ridiculously wrong claim!
The points this man proposes about the control of human life is nothing like the philosophy of Karl Marx, its far from it! Marxism is the rejection of the the working class being unfairly treated/ruled and controlled by the upper classes, and the idea that all conflict stems from this, therefore a criticism of capitalism.
Your use of the term is wrong, and claims Marxism to be a 'radical view', amongst fascism, which I think you'll find everyone will disagree with.

reply to post by TrueBrit


The ideals of the nazi party and my own opinions about overpopulation are completely different things. For a start, I have no preference over which race has power over another, and which has more right to survive.. I simply think that there should be a lot fewer of us.. and as a last option to save the planet and ourselves.. the idea of sterilisation could at least be considered.

In my ideal world, there'd be better ways to control the population, or at least, make sure it controls itself, such as better education about social responsibility in schools, and I'd remove child benefits after the first child, to erase the problem seen clearly in the UK of people having lots of children and quitting their jobs, because the benefits give them more money than working full time. If this didn't work.. it'd have to be the chinese way, or sterilisation.

As a rule, I don't agree with the idea of enforced sterilisation, as I believe that everyone should have a right to do as they please as long as it does not infringe upon the freedoms of others, but I do see the benefits it would give us and our future generations, to live on a planet that's not being choked to death by us.

We already have infertility drugs in the food supply, it's called soy. The oil is in most breads, lecithin as a binder is in a whole bunch more. Soy raises estrogen and cultivates effeminate males. The sperm counts today are a mere fraction of what they where 70 yeas ago. There's a book called "The Whole Soy Story" that goes into it.

reply to post by ReelView


Umm, Umm, How does that work???. The Chinese don't seem to be bothered by Soy products! Their fertility rivals every other countries in history! Percapita the Chinese eat more soy products than any other nation also!

Zindo

reply to post by CAPT PROTON


You're right. See:
Buck v. Bell

The Supreme Court never said that sterilization was un-Constitutional - just that in this case the right procedure hadn't been followed. You could still be legally sterilized.