Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet

Originally posted by Neo_Serf
reply to post by JScytale

 

True, food supply is in for a massive shortfall this year. A huge factor being US farmers, that feed the world, are unable to plant crops due to the economic collapse, that was of course created by the globalists.

So we have the ability to feed the world, but by design that ability has been bludgeoned, of course to cause some sort of Malthusian catastrophe.

Thanks for the patronizing though!

i find it humorous that you think the US's food production could feed 6 billion people.

reply to post by JScytale


10 Conditions For Transition To Communism
Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
** A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. **
Abolition of all right of inheritance.
Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
**Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. **
Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equal distribution of the population over the country.
Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.[7]

But of course after this was achived the elites would just give up their perfect power and dissolve themselves. Again intention vs implimentation.

reply to post by JScytale


Of course not the entire world, geez.

reply to post by metaldemon2000


I'm not sure what Human life is a waste aside from being taught how to SERVE in school and never being taught basic Humanistic skills like diet or self control, being affected by a system that teaches no real world skills.

In a world of vertical food towers... I am not sure either, exactly what the worry would be if some walk the wrong road, a person has no chance for enlightenment if they do not first make mistakes.

There are many people who in time will desire to be better than they are and 100% deserve the shot.

Of course it is very hard to accomplish that if you spend your life afraid and struggling to pay bills.

reply to post by ButterCookie


EUGENICS ?? I KNEW THIS HAD A WIFF OF HITLERS FOUL DISTENDED GUTS ON IT !!
That pretty much seals it for me . Eugenics has been outright proven by kennel club approved dogs, to be bad for genetics as a whole ... ANY kind of messing with the natural way of man (ie to breed widely and thereby strengthen not weaken the genepool) is just plain old WRONG!

reply to post by metaldemon2000


I do not speak to these kinds of social problems. I am not in a position of supreme moral authority. I do not feel i have the ability to judge who is, and who is not worthy of procreating. However, if one removes the economic incentives towards having children (i.e. welfare) I would think a decline in childbirth by those who cannot afford to have children would then follow.

you know.. I actually agree with some of his ideas.. we do need forced depopulation if we can't do it by ourselves, and sterilising people seems to be the most ethical way to do it.. just a shame about their totalitarian ideas, and the baby-snatching..

to quote bill hicks:

"can you stop on your rutting for just one minute, until we sort out this food/air deal..?"

reply to post by Neo_Serf


We aren't transitioning to Communism

They aren't Transitioning to Capitalism

We are merging the Two because the whole Cold War was a fraud in the first place, a way to, sell expensive weapons and create sponsor states in the 3rd world.

Originally posted by Neo_Serf
reply to post by Mumbotron

 

So in your opinion, why would the supposed 'finanicial capitalists' of the Bank of England and Federal Reserve fund Trotsky and the whole post czar system in Russia throughout the 20th century?

Globalists love Communism. Check the UNs most preferred nation, China. Hell, a central bank and the income tax are both planks of the Manifesto. Hence, globalists are not capitalists, they are Statists.

Communism vs Capitalism is not the top of the pyramid.

In my opinion, the financial capitalists own the industries that make the guns for both sides. After a short while, it became apparent to the Russians that they needed to defend their sovereignty from someone who might come along and open a factory or pit mine for profit. By then, their ranks had been infiltrated by bad people who lusted for power (obviously a departure from Marxism). Hey, I'm not saying the globalists didn't or don't have a hand in Russia.

[edit on 13-7-2009 by Mumbotron]

Originally posted by Neo_Serf
reply to post by JScytale

 

10 Conditions For Transition To Communism
Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
** A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. **
Abolition of all right of inheritance.
Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
**Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. **
Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equal distribution of the population over the country.
Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.[7]

the part you should have read and understood before posting that just got bolded for you. i guess you never read what marx considered a communist state? you know, the product of the transition.

reply to post by rhysotronic


So you would have let hitler do his thing as well ? I mean its the same damned idea just from a different angle... an angle far more insiduous and nasty some might say.

I think it'd be fantastic if we could force sterilization on the truly evil, but then the whole problem is who decides who is evil and who isn't, what if they're wrong, and is someone who was evil doomed to always be evil, etc.

A can of worms humans aren't ready open by a long shot.

reply to post by JScytale


OK fine, but history has shown no such transition will take place so its pointless to discuss and completely off topic anyways.

reply to post by maus80


I agree with you there. The only way to enhance our culture is by EDUCATING people out of the way of evil.

reply to post by antonia


Why decline Welfare? the actuality is Pregnant Mothers absorb .03% of the social services budget of the USA.

They pose to Women a fake Feminism that really is simply the ability to work like a Man and force us into a 2 wage earning system in which Children are considered a problem ... you are a horrible person if you can't afford children.

But the system itself is what makes it impossible, Motherhood is considered in our society to be "a waste of time"

But I am not sure there is any more important role...

Of course we look at the welfare line and see women on drugs, uneducated etc, etc...

That I would say is the result of chronic psychological abuse for simply wanting to bear and raise children, a continuation of the worlds longest running holocaust... the one against women.

What are they to do when a 300.00 check and lowered rent in a dangerous neighborhood is considered to be "stealing tax payer money"

When this Nation was great

"Women and Children First" was a common expression.





[edit on 13-7-2009 by mopusvindictus]

Originally posted by ButterCookie
1. promoting homsexuality ( gay culture is now mainstream)
2. Family Planning ( abortion clincs)
3. Morning after pill
4. Man made viruses

1) And it has been for decades.
2) Has been around for decades.
3) Is not your choice, but hers.
4) lol, what?

reply to post by mopusvindictus


Its not that far off here in UK . My mother was made to feel awful for having kids, even though my father worked for the MoD . We (my sister and I ) grew up poor by local standards, and my mother was sick with sorrow for years. Its only since me and my sis began to explain to her how vital her love and support has been, that shes realised all that programming to feel bad, was just bull shoved down her neck by health visitors, teachers at our schools, and blasted district nurses. We have been fighting that sort of maliscious programing everywhere we see it for the past ten years.

[edit on 13-7-2009 by TrueBrit]

Originally posted by N3krostatic
reply to post by WhatTheory

 

Does anyone see a link between this thread and the link below? Or am I just paranoid.

Avian and swine flu vaccines cause sterility and death

Population control at its finest? Create a disease, infect the world, blow it out of proportion and scare people into getting vaccine, they become sterile.... population control...

Not saying it is or isn't but I'm just thinking aloud at the potentials so thought I'd throw that out there.

Another thought, thinking aloud here.
The swine flu focuses mainly on the younger generation correct? Those more likely and able to reproduce. Population control?

Ok maybe I might be thinking too much on this.

No, you are not. This is exactly what it is about.

Very good N3krostatic, see there are live ones on this board after all.

VACCINATION = STERILIZATION (Mantra)

A few attention getters:

Hey everyone!

Watch this:








Avian and swine flu vaccines cause sterility and death






There are now TWO people on ATS who understand the link.

Yippee

reply to post by mopusvindictus


I do think the whole "welfare queen" issue is just grossly misrepresented. But that being said if there was no safety net to absorb peoples mistakes I daresay they would be a lot more careful about what they do. It could just be wishful thinking on my part though. Many people seem to forget most unplanned pregencies involve alcohol/drugs according to most statistics i've seen. I think we should encourage responsibility with concern to reproducing.

reply to post by TrueBrit


A world in which educated well fed healthy Mothers raise children... Is of course a world in which people will grow up to have Social and Moral Values and wish to create a world of abundance and beauty.

So of course the easiest way to make people not understand this, is to provide them with countless examples of women who can not for any fault of their own, express their natural Maternal strengths. Creation of the negative proof to support a negative hypothesis.