Evil ETs do not exist period

reply to post by robhines


I didn't write the 'script.'

And the One who did has no peers.

His scripts tend to be final in first draft.

He wants the planet like He set it up with Eden. He's determined to have what He set out to have.

All the demons in hell; all the fallen angels in whatever levels of the atmosphere and space; all the NWO globalists on the planet cannot exist beyond His permission for them to do so.

And in terms of their having anything to do with this planet in this time/space dimension--they WON'T HAVE one microsecond beyond HIS--"IT IS FINISHED, AWAY WITH THEM."

I've seen enough suffering already and it's just getting started.

I'm eager for the thousand years of perfect peace and the lion laying down with the lamb.

reply to post by BO XIAN


What you're talking about sounds like cleansing the earth etc, and if that happens it happens, but it seems kind of insane to be honest. We'll all co-exist without division one day, no matter what anyone says. We won't stay divided, no matter what beings you're talking about.

Any beings banished by your God will return to our awareness eventually. In the end we have to learn to get along together.

reply to post by robhines


You are welcome to tell ALMIGHTY GOD that He's insane to do things HIS WAY, if you wish.

I wouldn't 'go there.'

I'd also suggest that . . . of all the entities in HIS CREATION,

HE ABOVE ALL

KNOWS

what He's doing.

BO XIAN
reply to post by robhines

 

You are welcome to tell ALMIGHTY GOD that He's insane to do things HIS WAY, if you wish.

I wouldn't 'go there.'

I'd also suggest that . . . of all the entities in HIS CREATION,

HE ABOVE ALL

KNOWS

what He's doing.

I'm not trying to create issues with any God, I try to respect them all and would prefer peace, but it isn't his creation, sorry. It belongs to everyone equally. We all share the same mind ultimately, and nobody is above everyone else. We're all equal. Sorry if that offends you.

BO : You could say this "part" of the all is his creation if you want. Maybe it is, but it's set inside something much bigger, (think of multiverses and infinite dimensions, maybe.) and no single being gets to dictate how everyone else should exist.

An all-intelligent and all-compassionate God that could somehow manipulate any other being according to his wishes, would surely create a situation that results in something better than armageddon. How is that all-intelligent? We have to co-exist eventually. To drop our delusions, let our issues go, and move on.

BO XIAN
I didn't write the 'script.'

And the One who did has no peers.

This isn't a very good script. Either we turned away and your God allowed us, or your God isn't all-intelligent and all-compassionate. All-intelligent and all-compassionate doesn't write "scripts" like this. It's delusion.

Maybe your God is the blind one of the Gnostics. Jesus wouldn't write a script like this. We're in this situation against our will. If that's part of God's script, to make us suffer like this, it's manipulation and fascism, not intelligence and compassion. Or, some of us are suffering as part of our karma from previous lives, but Christianity doesn't have previous lives does it? Just heaven or hell? It doesn't seem to make sense. The only thing that seems to make sense is that the old testament God is deluded, and Jesus, who tried to sort this out, wasn't. Would you write a script like this for everyone on this planet? If not, then why would a being with so much more intelligence?

Maybe it's best to stick to the ideas of peace that Jesus wanted if you're Christian, and not the fire and brimstone. It's also worth remembering the fact that Jesus loved all, so that includes the demons, aliens, and whoever else you want to think of. Don't hate your supposed enemies, you'll have to co-exist with them eventually. I personally look forward to a time when we can openly and peacefully communicate with the aliens, the demons, etc, if they're out there. We're all part of the same mind, and we should not be divided like this.

fooffstarr
Not that I 100% believe their tales, but you trying telling the people that wake in the night to find hideous beings next to their beds that there are no evil aliens.

Try telling them that after they've gone through half a day's worth of experiments and painful experiences.

There are plenty of abductees who's stories have withstood lie detectors, regressive hypnosis and public scrutiny. So I think I'll believe their interpretations of what is 'out there' more.

I was thinking same thing lol..... We are not evil, the alien said as he stuck the long probe up your a$us, ouch...

That is definitely evil lol.

The Bot

reply to post by dlbott


Egads, they don't say that. After you lecture them about what Love does and does not due and refuse to cooperate with their program, he tells you that humans are insects to them. And when you tell him to hit the road then basically, no reason to be doing this with insects, he inserts dryly, "but of course some of us would happily spend and entire life studying insects."

I call those ones neutrals.

reply to post by ATSZOMBIE


If anyone has noticed I wrote this thread about 4 years ago and looking over it I would have worded things a bit different today.

EnPassant

kronos11Starting with my intimate knowledge of them I can confidently say that ETs CAN NOT be evil by the rules of universal law.

Can you provide a solid argument and evidence for the existence of this universal law? Can you show that, if it exists, ETs comply with it?

edit on 18-10-2013 by EnPassant because: (no reason given)

I can't really because it's nearly unheard of so far in our recorded history but I would say the fact that we haven't openly encountered one hostile alien in the thousands of years of remembered history can bode to the fact that they aren't there. Do you think they ETs are just sitting back waiting to strike and enslave us when we've developed the really good weapons?

For the record I'd like to clarify that when I say ET I mean physical, space-traveling, world discovering life forms that have mastered space travel. There are millions of worlds throughout the universe with beings far more evil than any our planet could produce.

kronos11
If anyone has noticed I wrote this thread about 4 years ago and looking over it I would have worded things a bit different today.

Hahah! Thanks for that, it's strange how many times I can get into a thread then find that it was written ages ago but I'd not originally noticed at all.

And BO XIAN : Apologies if I offended you in any way. I know that religious beliefs are often very central to the way people live, and it wasn't my intention to try and disrespect yours, I just have a lot of issues with the OT God being so different to the NT Jesus, it often bugs me, but I should be more careful and respectful with my words in the future. And hopefully I'll resolve my problems in the future and stop bugging various Christians in debate about it too.

I do think it's good to debate these things, but it's just hard for those conversations not to get heated, especially on the internet, of course. Also : I realize what I said back there could be totally wrong too, I don't pretend to think I actually know these things, guess I just get a bit arrogant and angry when I don't know the answers. When we do finally know what's going on I'm sure it'll be interesting though, to say the least!

kronos11
There are millions of worlds throughout the universe with beings far more evil than any our planet could produce.

THAT'S an interesting

faith based fantasy.

Based on faith in what?
What source?
What evidence?
What biases interpreting the above?

Nothing of any solidity or reliability whatsoever supports such a fantasy. Nothing.

Also, and this isn't directed at anyone specific : it bugs me that many of us here (and yes, me included, definitely.) fall into the trap of stating things like we "know" them, when really we're just going along with the beliefs we cling to more than others.

Our awareness, even though we don't like to admit it, is so low compared to what it could be. It's good to question everything we can, admit that often we simply don't have the answers, and also to remember that when it comes down to it, we don't really know much at all compared to what we could do about this reality we're living in.

ETs CAN NOT be evil by the rules of universal law.

We are ET's and we can be evil thus the rules of universal law do not exist.

reply to post by robhines


THX THX for your kind words.

You haven't bothered me . . . certainly not significantly enough to recall it. LOL.

It's the knee-jerk super hostiles hereon who's only Raison D'etra is to do everything they can to assault the Christian perspective in the harshest terms that annoy me far more.

I certainly do not expect much of anyone to share my somewhat idiosyncratic views and beliefs.

You've been a gentleman and I appreciate it. No sweat.

I just happen to disagree--to have a different perspective.

BTW, I have a theory about the presentation of The Father in the OT vs in the NT.

1. satan fell and took 1/3 of the angels with him.

2. God was dealing then with tribal groups all over the planet waxing more and more degenerate--doing their own thing, their neighbor's thing, their neighbor's wife's thing etc. . . . murdering at whim . . . sacrificing children in horribly painful ways to demonic idols and gods.

3. The cultures, psychologies, memes, etc. DESPERATELY NEEDED STARK DEMONSTRATIONS OF WHAT WAS RIGHT AND WRONG.

4. Also, Father God was dealing with very overt copulating between the fallen angels and human women resulting in giants who had a propensity to soon eat the nearby humans out of house and home and THEN TO BEGIN EATING all the nearby humans.

5. That was something NO LOVING FATHER could kindly tolerate AT ALL.

6. 100% of ALL the tribal groups that the children of Israel was told to TOTALLY EXTERMINATE HAD FALLEN ANGEL DNA; child-sacrificing to idols customs etc. Father God wanted that totally removed from the planet--totally. What loving Father would have wanted otherwise?

7. The SAME ALMIGHTY FATHER GOD known for such 'harshness' in the OT was the same one to SEND HIS OWN ONLY BEGOTTEN SON to die for all mankind even when all mankind was still horribly stuck in rebellion, idolatry, harsh abuses of fellowman etc. That's a rather overwhelmingly loving thing to do. . . . send the most precious part of you to die for ingrates.

imho.

robhines
Also, and this isn't directed at anyone specific : it bugs me that many of us here (and yes, me included, definitely.) fall into the trap of stating things like we "know" them, when really we're just going along with the beliefs we cling to more than others.

Our awareness, even though we don't like to admit it, is so low compared to what it could be. It's good to question everything we can, admit that often we simply don't have the answers, and also to remember that when it comes down to it, we don't really know much at all compared to what we could do about this reality we're living in.

Interestingly, I have a similar feeling about the same issue.

I try to be limited in the sorts of things I'm emphatic about. I need a fairly high level of conviction based on solid evidence over a significant period of time to be emphatic.

Trouble is . . . to many of my readers . . . I've lived a long time; I've read massive amounts of information about a wide variety of things . . . I've thought extensively about all the stuff that seriously interests me--particularly theology; ET's; UFO's; END TIMES etc. and

THEREFORE, I have an above average list of things that I'm not much more than a little convinced of--emphatic about. Many times I still try and word things conditionally or cautiously or tentatively. But not always, by far.

Some fairly high priority things I'm emphatic about and will likely continue to be even though many consider them to be unknowable or false or pure opinion.

To me, they are unalterable facts which will be proven many times over in due course of these END TIMES . . . particularly on individuals' graduations from this life.

BO XIAN
It's the knee-jerk super hostiles hereon who's only Raison D'etra is to do everything they can to assault the Christian perspective in the harshest terms that annoy me far more.

Yeah agreed, as someone who isn't even Christian I also find that really sad. I know that some people genuinely just do it for "teh lulz", etc, though, and it's often just a phase people go through. It's almost always best not to rise to the bait, or if responding, to respond like you would do to a normal post, (or with a hint of sarcasm and humour back at them.) because it's the opposite of what they want.

Interesting take on the OT God too, thanks for sharing! Will keep that in mind if/when I'm researching aspects of Christianity from here on out (which I tend to do from time to time.)

kronos11

EnPassant

kronos11Starting with my intimate knowledge of them I can confidently say that ETs CAN NOT be evil by the rules of universal law.

Can you provide a solid argument and evidence for the existence of this universal law? Can you show that, if it exists, ETs comply with it?

edit on 18-10-2013 by EnPassant because: (no reason given)

I can't really because it's nearly unheard of so far in our recorded history but I would say the fact that we haven't openly encountered one hostile alien in the thousands of years of remembered history can bode to the fact that they aren't there. Do you think they ETs are just sitting back waiting to strike and enslave us when we've developed the really good weapons?

edit on 20-10-2013 by kronos11 because: typo

They don't need to be hostile on this level and besides, they might lose a great deal by destruction. Their invasion of the world is on a much higher level - a spiritual or paranormal level. They operate by subterfuge and stealth.

BO XIAN
reply to post by robhines

 

THX THX for your kind words.

You haven't bothered me . . . certainly not significantly enough to recall it. LOL.

It's the knee-jerk super hostiles hereon who's only Raison D'etra is to do everything they can to assault the Christian perspective in the harshest terms that annoy me far more.

I certainly do not expect much of anyone to share my somewhat idiosyncratic views and beliefs.

You've been a gentleman and I appreciate it. No sweat.

I just happen to disagree--to have a different perspective.

BTW, I have a theory about the presentation of The Father in the OT vs in the NT.

1. satan fell and took 1/3 of the angels with him.

2. God was dealing then with tribal groups all over the planet waxing more and more degenerate--doing their own thing, their neighbor's thing, their neighbor's wife's thing etc. . . . murdering at whim . . . sacrificing children in horribly painful ways to demonic idols and gods.

3. The cultures, psychologies, memes, etc. DESPERATELY NEEDED STARK DEMONSTRATIONS OF WHAT WAS RIGHT AND WRONG.

4. Also, Father God was dealing with very overt copulating between the fallen angels and human women resulting in giants who had a propensity to soon eat the nearby humans out of house and home and THEN TO BEGIN EATING all the nearby humans.

5. That was something NO LOVING FATHER could kindly tolerate AT ALL.

6. 100% of ALL the tribal groups that the children of Israel was told to TOTALLY EXTERMINATE HAD FALLEN ANGEL DNA; child-sacrificing to idols customs etc. Father God wanted that totally removed from the planet--totally. What loving Father would have wanted otherwise?

7. The SAME ALMIGHTY FATHER GOD known for such 'harshness' in the OT was the same one to SEND HIS OWN ONLY BEGOTTEN SON to die for all mankind even when all mankind was still horribly stuck in rebellion, idolatry, harsh abuses of fellowman etc. That's a rather overwhelmingly loving thing to do. . . . send the most precious part of you to die for ingrates.

imho.

Sorry, but sending "your only begotten son" who 'you love' to die doesn't sound very loving but part of the problem. Why didn't god send herself to die?