Evil ETs do not exist period

We have to believe that aliens are not friendly and then they have to prove themselves. I am not suggesting we have to go around shooting them, but they should not be trusted automatically.

Anyone in contact with aliens really needs to read this post

qmantoo
Anyone in contact with aliens really needs to read this post

It says they've received orders from headquarters to remove content I'm not supposed to see, so I can't read it, not that I'm in contact with aliens, but I was wondering what I should do if they contact me.

Everyone talks about "why haven't they landed on the whitehouse lawn" but I think the secret service agents might shoot at a craft doing that, so I was going to suggest they land in central park in New York City instead...will that work?

since the whole concept of life/universe as we know it revolves around the ol positive vs negative force, I would assume (just like everyone is assuming here) that nefarious life forms do exist. Maybe not in our galaxy, maybe in a parallel universe. Maybe we have good life forms watching over us, protecting us.

if giving someone a free prostate exam against their will is not peaceful, i don't know what is.

anal probing.

There is no reason why an advanced alien race has to be good or not evil. One or more alien races may see us as little more than ants and do as they please, like abductions and traumatic scientific experiments on humans. We do all kinds of traumatic experiments on animals, are we evil?

A sociopathic alien with a superiority complex that find all other species outside it culture, inferior to its own. Also possibly has a messiah complex and think it going to make the previous empire look primitive.

Sounds evil enough...

Awesome troll thread! Inflammatory title will lead to many pages of more spam! 10/10!

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roncoallstar
I am of the opinion that an ET race, at least one capable of interstellar space travel, could not possibly be evil or negative.

My reason is simple. I believe that there is no way that an evil race or civlization would be able to come together and work together towards a goal. Say for instance, getting off a planet. You know, kind of like what us humans are doing right now? We are never going to get off this planet without DRASTIC changes because everyone is selfish and for themselves, especially the people in control of our race. We gave up on space travel and working towards a common goal long ago for quick profits. For this reason I believe that generally humans are an evil race, not all, but most of them.

This is how I picture an evil alien race.

Like how both the U.S, and the Germans were both working towards producing a nuclear bomb in WW2 - both of these countries have been called evil, but at that time, the Germans would be called 'evil' a lot more than the U.S. The Germans nearly produced the bomb, working together quite efficiently, and how many people think the Nazi's benign? The Germans were stopped, by a daring raid on the facility producing heavy water, in which they (I think it was British soldiers in Norway but not certain) bombed the facility, but the Germans were not far away from a working bomb.

The Spanish sailed to the 'New World', and eradicated the culture of quite advanced people. Were the actions of the Spanish good, or could what they did be termed evil?

I feel your argument does not take into account the fact that humans are quite effective at plannng and delivering evil actions. Was the final solution a good thing? Pol Pot and the Cambodian genocide, and successive fascist coups in South America.

Do you thnk if humans become capable of interstellar or intergalactic travel, to a similar degree like inter-continental travel 400-500 years ago, they would not repeat the same colonialist behaviour of their predecessors? We, as a species are quite good at planning and delivering evil actions - if we become able to travel to the stars, then we will possibly be evil ETs, particularly in the eyes of any alien race being subjugated.

What makes you think an alien civilisation would not be capable of these behaviours?

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What a load of BS.

You people can't even prove ET's exist. Yes I know about the odds. (Sorry that's not significant proof in my book.)
If they are real you are going to generalize all of them, and claim that non of them are capable of being evil.

Reminds me of what some of those ufo religions/cults and their nutjob members believe.


Classic sign of the gullible.
Really.

hounddoghowlie
if giving someone a free prostate exam against their will is not peaceful, i don't know what is.

anal probing.

The problem is when the anal probing involves more than a prostate exam, and they leave something behind like they did in the South Park episode "Cartman gets an Anal Probe":

Alien Hardware:


Alien control:

I cannot wholeheartedly agree with this. First off, universal rules can only apply when you've met the entire universe. That fact that humans on earth are as destructive and "evil" as we are has to open up the possibility that there is already one more race as messed up as we are. Universally speaking.

And evil itself is a point if view, what one group sees as necessary or acceptable, another could easily view as either a good or an evil action.

I would hope that anyone or thing capable of the technology to just get here would be past what we as a society consider evil. But there is always the chance that our morals don't line up. Plus, we as a society don't set the best example of "good vs evil", so why should we expect to be treated in a "good" way. Food for thought.

TheMythLives

Well IF ET's do exist, then a universal law is also known that for every action their is an equal an opposite reaction. Which means that evil and good must co-exist to survive. The Ying and the Yang.

You're talking about Newton's 3rd Law, right? It's not exactly a universal truth I don't think, (we're not exactly in the position to state that as Humans with our current limited knowledge anyway, no matter how aggressively the scientific community says otherwise.) and I don't think even that law, or theory, was meant to state that good has to have equal evil. Newton was talking about physics, surely, not concepts of good and evil.

I can also see how this could go around in circles forever though, so we'll probably have to agree to disagree! It could be said that good and evil are both delusional concepts though, as are yin and yang, etc, etc. That we aren't actually separate, and that separation is only due to our lack of understanding, or false perceptions. In that case, Newton's laws, good, evil, and all other opposites, are just thrashing around in delusion. Or that we're talking about relative truths, not ultimate truths. Just saying anyway, I just have an issue with that opposites concept when it's taken to the level of good and evil.

If you really take it to the furthest level in that case, wouldn't everything have an equal reaction already built in, implying complete eventual stasis of any attempt at any lasting change? Maybe eventual stasis, (of all of our efforts in this universe and/or with our current limited perceptions.) or neutrality, is the truth in that case, this reality is just our delusion, and our task is to transcend it.

kronos11Starting with my intimate knowledge of them I can confidently say that ETs CAN NOT be evil by the rules of universal law.

Can you provide a solid argument and evidence for the existence of this universal law? Can you show that, if it exists, ETs comply with it?

Lets keep it simple supposing ET can get to Earth. I am sure the Vast Universe is filled with other life forms.
Like shades of gray in the light spectrum is how good/evil exists. Some very good, some neutral, some very evil...

What we have is a very, very nice piece of real estate. Earth. Now think of how it happens when many buyers want the same property.... a bidding war starts. And these buyers may not be good or evil, they just want the real estate. You may wonder what they would sacrifice or do to get it. This is why aliens are dangerous to us. They might want our home.

If they exist : Whoever's out there, they'll arrive when we're ready. It might be that we have to deal with the douchebags before the decent ones turn up, but we'll see them eventually. Our collective intelligence seems to be about at that point, despite what some would like us to believe.

In fact, we're probably at the point where our helpful "governments" are putting every effort into keeping us unaware, because it's clear that if we do find the truth soon, their plans (for a very boring, sad, and torturous reality.) are over. After all, why are we going to worship their fake "economy" religion, when we can see that there's a million times more to reality?

Look at pre-election debates. As if a decent group of people would focus on "economics" like they always do. They'd focus on Human rights, equality, and genuine freedom. Seriously, think about it. It really isn't that hard to see how utterly insane the current situation is.

This is why many of us here are put into the nice little "tin-foil hat" box. They don't want people thinking big ideas of freedom when there's war, death and poverty to focus on. Our ideas and theories are like a disease to them, one that should be contained, so that it doesn't spread to the masses and make them think too much. Thinking outside the box brings the creativity to overcome obstacles, and maybe even the type of freedom that eventually results in equality. They don't want any of this, it means less chances of profit. Profit is their God. (or at least one of them.)

We'll go past their delusions eventually, just a matter of time and patience. They can't chain any of us up in this circus of the fake forever.

cuckooold

roncoallstar
I am of the opinion that an ET race, at least one capable of interstellar space travel, could not possibly be evil or negative.

My reason is simple. I believe that there is no way that an evil race or civlization would be able to come together and work together towards a goal. Say for instance, getting off a planet. You know, kind of like what us humans are doing right now? We are never going to get off this planet without DRASTIC changes because everyone is selfish and for themselves, especially the people in control of our race. We gave up on space travel and working towards a common goal long ago for quick profits. For this reason I believe that generally humans are an evil race, not all, but most of them.

This is how I picture an evil alien race.

Like how both the U.S, and the Germans were both working towards producing a nuclear bomb in WW2 - both of these countries have been called evil, but at that time, the Germans would be called 'evil' a lot more than the U.S. The Germans nearly produced the bomb, working together quite efficiently, and how many people think the Nazi's benign? The Germans were stopped, by a daring raid on the facility producing heavy water, in which they (I think it was British soldiers in Norway but not certain) bombed the facility, but the Germans were not far away from a working bomb.

The Spanish sailed to the 'New World', and eradicated the culture of quite advanced people. Were the actions of the Spanish good, or could what they did be termed evil?

I feel your argument does not take into account the fact that humans are quite effective at plannng and delivering evil actions. Was the final solution a good thing? Pol Pot and the Cambodian genocide, and successive fascist coups in South America.

Do you thnk if humans become capable of interstellar or intergalactic travel, to a similar degree like inter-continental travel 400-500 years ago, they would not repeat the same colonialist behaviour of their predecessors? We, as a species are quite good at planning and delivering evil actions - if we become able to travel to the stars, then we will possibly be evil ETs, particularly in the eyes of any alien race being subjugated.

What makes you think an alien civilisation would not be capable of these behaviours?

edit on 17-10-2013 by cuckooold because: (no reason given)

I think maybe you missed my point. I am agreeing with you. Humans on this planet are generally evil based on what has taken place in history. However, leaving a planet is a whole other thing which requires cooperation on a massive level and based on our history of greed as a race I see no possible outcome where humans could work together to get off this planet. The people who are in control are clearly not good and they are not looking out for the race or the planet. If we can't even take care of this planet, do you REALLY think we could go to another? Like I said, we basically gave up on space travel since the moon landing for purposes of power and greed.

Without a drastic shift in the attitude and people in charge of this planet, the human race will be stuck here fighting amongst themselves just like an evil race should be. I think we have the potential to be a good race, but the outlook for the future is not good for us.

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I've never met

ANYONE

nor any group

nor any government

who was

NEUTRAL

in their values, statements and behaviors.

Never.

Anyone.

I think it is foolhardy and irrational to believe that such entities exist.

That's like believing

--that somewhere . . . there are Ferrari's that just pop into existence like mushrooms in the night.

or

--that on alternate Tuesdays . . . in San Diego . . . 3 legged Mammoth-alligator-dragon-fly-bunny-bumblebee-otters with six sets of wings parade down the freeway playing sousaphones on rollerskates.

or

--that if you cross your fingers; step on no cracks; go out on the sidewalk Sonday at noon; stand on your head for 45 seconds; turn around clockwise 4 times; turn around counterclockwise 5 times; recite Mary had a little lamb backwards 3 times; do 12 back flips; streak across the street naked and back in 8 seconds; flap your arms until you elevate 2 feet; roll across the street laughing hysterically and back; roll around the front lawn in a ball for 90 seconds; eat grass for 10 seconds; make ugly faces at all passers by for 5 minutes; . . . that you'll win a very large lottery . . . that will all go poof if you don't spend 95% of it in 3 hours.

= = =

IOW . . . it's one of the least rational things you could do and/or believe in. There's not a hint of precedent for it. Not a micro-gram's worth.


ABSOLUTELY NONE,
NADA
NOTHING
ZIP
ZILCH
BU SHR
0.00000000000000000%

It's a wishful thinking fantasy out of whole cloth.
.
.

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Oh. . . . the globalist oligarchy and fallen angel/ET critters have lots of options and lots of chains for squashing, trashing dissent.

God will be in behalf of those who are HIS. However, some of those are also slated for martyrdom. . . . others to be supernaturally protected . . . perhaps in wandering bands like the Children of Israel in the wilderness.

Thankfully, at Armageddon . . . ALL the remaining evil doers WILL be wiped off the planet . . . along with evidence of their existence.

BO XIAN
Thankfully, at Armageddon . . . ALL the remaining evil doers WILL be wiped off the planet . . . along with evidence of their existence.

You could say that's a possible scenario, but I'd like to think that we can have the intelligence to move beyond what's currently happening without so much madness taking place. Truces and rehabilitation for those screwing things up so much seems a lot better than them being wiped off the planet and Armageddon.

Give peace and diplomacy a chance, etc.

Within the confines of the testing ground, ie, the dimensions/channels still experiencing duality, you have both sides here.

An example would be in a video clip I watched of an actual experiment with equipment, an old experiment, 40's, 50's or 60's. It looked old in the clip. Anyway, they fired two opposing, I believe magnetic flux or forces, at each other, and in the middle it created a small galaxy. Thats what it looked like.

So, this place between the higher and lower seems to be where both sides operate and its a test.

And all in the corporal, human and ET, would have influence, allegiance, to different sides. Different types of confederations, some would be darth vaders group.

I've already experienced both sides and gained protection over time. Just be Love always, and strive to overcome anything in you that blocks you being Love, to heal, to gain mastery over your impulses and overcome. Because you would never fear negatives then, but have compassion for everyone, but still protect humanity, serve and protect, even if its just in your will and prayers, meditations and intercessions until you are empowered.