Evil ETs do not exist period

Originally posted by Abductee Chick
Being an abductee myself, I still do not know the ET's agenda. They only let me remember them coming to get me or bringing me back. If their intentions were positive, honest ones, why take my memories? Whats with all the sneaking around? One must look at the actions of the beings and there is enough proof to indicate they are doing something they do not want us to remember.

At one time I considered myself an abductee until I learned to disassociate myself from this life and its process Abduction seems to imply something nefarious and in most cases the individual who experiences these contacts chose the experience long before this lifetime.

Originally posted by Abductee Chick
Some may argue that the experiments they perform may be in our benefit that we just do not understand yet. So they block out the painful memories to help us go through life happy. This may be so, but we do not know if what is on their agenda is our best interest or theirs.

Both. they have been given a license to do this, not by our military leaders, but by something that governs us all.

Originally posted by Abductee Chick
I ask this: If these beings are here to help, why is there so much suffering?
Why do they let people burn alive in high rise fires and plane crashes when they can rescue them? I guess they couldn't take time out of their busy schedule to save a child from drowning or being beaten to death? Not even once?

There is a delicate balance to evolution and any interference is monumental no matter how arbitrary it may seem. The process by which they are "introducing" themselves to us is all they've been granted access to. The contacts began initially because of Hiroshima and Nagasaki but now they have increased since things are clearly spiraling out of control - their mission seems more imminent. They are trying to salvage the human genome while at the same time save themselves - its a cohesive effort.

I've read that there's been those who've been given messages about why they're here etc. But, taking away memories and using screen or false memories suggests something else. I suppose those who've survived rather than being mutilated etc. are better off.....it seems.

I found a site I posted on another thread and it has some interesting statements in it. There are those of us who still considered humans that watch various degrading forms of pornography, such as bondage.

www.scribd.com...

There may be those alleged aliens that are studying this affect on us also.There's also mention of reptilians possibly being responsible. idk

If our world is coming to a near extinction event, these visitors or other,may not have much thought about us, as-if cattle, like we do.

Humans, by far, may be even worse when it comes to these abuses on our own and other forms of life here. What goes around, comes around?

Originally posted by kronos11
Every year I go through this thing where I have to put the word out that the ideology of an evil alien is nothing more than a mythos created from hollywood fiction.

Starting with my intimate knowledge of them I can confidently say that ETs CAN NOT be evil by the rules of universal law. Granted, the understanding of Evil is a universally linear concept that runs through all planes of existence and it serves a fundamental purpose in training the soul as it goes through its process of evolution. However, there is a strict covenant held by the watchers of our universe(plane of existence) that does not allow an evil or war-faring race to become sentient. Sentient meaning knowledge of the technology beyond technology(quantum/dimension travel) and this leap requires a tremendous spiritual evolution before it can be consecrated.

Not to be forgotten nor mistaken, there are those called the controllers of the planet Earth and they are permitted to operate their evil rule because this is their home as much as it is ours and if they choose to destroy and subjugate it then that is simply evolution. the watchers can do little to stop them. These controllers seem alien to us mainly because they have stayed hidden so long but they are not alien at all , actually they are much older than us in this system by eons.

Just doing my duty to spread a bit of truth to the ignorant majority.

[edit on 12-7-2009 by kronos11]

What type of aliens are you reffering 2? Do you mean ALL completely?

my stance is pretty much this: if there were extraterrestrials with the technology to travel between the stars in a reasonable amount of time around, and they wanted us gone, I guarantee we would not have lasted more than a couple weeks after they discovered us.

Originally posted by kronos11
However, there is a strict covenant held by the watchers of our universe(plane of existence) that does not allow an evil or war-faring race to become sentient. Sentient meaning knowledge of the technology beyond technology(quantum/dimension travel) and this leap requires a tremendous spiritual evolution before it can be consecrated.

Well the human race will be stuck here till it is extinct "that sucks"
S$F for a very interesting theory

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The OP forgot to mention about the abductions and the experimentations done to some abductees with 2 foot needles and scary looking dental picks.

some of his comrads up there also like to laser beam up cows private parts as well...

if they pop up in my bedroom Ill spray there eyes with hair spray or snap their skinny arm like a toothpick if I can...

hi

I think a lot of us in the ufo field are not ignorant,,,thats far from the truth.

Im not as intimate with them as you are so you say.

sounds as though you need to be a priest/nun or a monk to fly a spaceship the way you put it?

I dont think all the ET's up their are evil yet Im sure some are.
Some are not in anyoness best interest either might be a better way to put it..
we dont know enuff about the ET's themselves as a being/species on what makes them tick ..

there could be other et's who just cant get along with other et's,, not that there evil but there just to different..

also to state the world does have much sadness in it but there also is MANY MANY good beautiful kind people still...

Have you had the plum inserted up your "you know what" in any of their medical experiments??

well,,,thanks for the heads up and your comforting words,,,

Hmm, you get a cookie for creativity, I was expecting a thread that said that an alien would probably be sophisticated to the point of not wanting to do evil experiments on humans, or invade and eat our brains etc.. but nope.. I get this...


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oh well.. ats wouldn't be the great site it is if we didn't have to many radical ideas being thrown around.

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thanks. the consideration is appreciated.

Originally posted by kronos11

Starting with my intimate knowledge of them I can confidently say that ETs CAN NOT be evil by the rules of universal law.

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Just doing my duty to spread a bit of truth to the ignorant majority.

[edit on 12-7-2009 by kronos11]

To believe you blindly would make more naive and ignorant people, correct?

I think you failed in your "duty."

Originally posted by TSer78

Originally posted by kronos11

Starting with my intimate knowledge of them I can confidently say that ETs CAN NOT be evil by the rules of universal law.

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Just doing my duty to spread a bit of truth to the ignorant majority.

[edit on 12-7-2009 by kronos11]

To believe you blindly would make more naive and ignorant people, correct?

I think you failed in your "duty."

Really? My duty was not to make you believe what I believe but more to just drop a bit of something into the consciousness of each ATSer that happens upon this thread. Normally people do not believe everything they read and as we have seen here so well what makes a skeptic a believer is first-hand experience. Even though I cannot offer some great video or picture I can tell you first hand of my experience and then leave it up to you.. whether or not you find validity in it is something only your intuition can decide.

kronos11

Originally posted by TSer78

Originally posted by kronos11

Starting with my intimate knowledge of them I can confidently say that ETs CAN NOT be evil by the rules of universal law.

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Just doing my duty to spread a bit of truth to the ignorant majority.

[edit on 12-7-2009 by kronos11]

To believe you blindly would make more naive and ignorant people, correct?

I think you failed in your "duty."

Really? My duty was not to make you believe what I believe but more to just drop a bit of something into the consciousness of each ATSer that happens upon this thread. Normally people do not believe everything they read and as we have seen here so well what makes a skeptic a believer is first-hand experience. Even though I cannot offer some great video or picture I can tell you first hand of my experience and then leave it up to you.. whether or not you find validity in it is something only your intuition can decide.

Please tell me (PM?) your first hand experience.
(I might tell you mine.)

Good and Evil are a human concept not a universal concept.

Universal concept would simply be cause and effect. Law of radiation and attraction. Karma. They be universal concepts.

I am of the opinion that an ET race, at least one capable of interstellar space travel, could not possibly be evil or negative.

My reason is simple. I believe that there is no way that an evil race or civlization would be able to come together and work together towards a goal. Say for instance, getting off a planet. You know, kind of like what us humans are doing right now? We are never going to get off this planet without DRASTIC changes because everyone is selfish and for themselves, especially the people in control of our race. We gave up on space travel and working towards a common goal long ago for quick profits. For this reason I believe that generally humans are an evil race, not all, but most of them.

This is how I picture an evil alien race.

Fanatic
People here talk with so much conviction about stuff they nothing about. All we ever heard about aliens are just stories and theories. No hard facts what so ever.

We don't know anything about them. We don't even know which supposed races are real or not. A lot people believe on those reptile aliens, and I hear they are evil, so what do you have to say to that? On second thought I don't want to know.

Face kronos11, your just saying that because that is what you want to believe.

My sentiments on the OP exactly.

Look, OP, there is nothing wrong with starting a thread, and starting a discussion regarding your PERSONAL opinions and PERSONAL beliefs about ETs..but when you start essentially preaching about something you couldn't possibly know for sure, then you actually limit the scope of a discussion, and prevent actual discussion from taking place.

You can talk about universal law until the end of time, but "universal law" is just a concept, unless you can factually prove it, or at least explain it beyond "all sentient beings agree on the terms of blah blah". No.....earth is a PRIME example of how beings DON'T agree on things. You can claim all you want that earth is EXCEPTION, and it is because we are inferior or not as intelligent as other intelligent races or whatever, but there is nothing to back up those claims.

When it comes to the paranormal, there are no 'experts'. We ALL have our opinions, our beliefs, and our thoughts on the various subjects..but they are JUST that. NONE of us are experts.

The truth is, we know VERY LITTLE about even this planet, and our BODIES, let alone how this universe operates, and how other beings in this universe operate.

Evil is really just a concept anyway, it has no reality outside of conceptual thinking. A more likely category would be 'service to self' or 'service to others'.

War is a game to the gods...

You can't have Heaven without fighting for it!!

Cthulwho
If the ET's are so evil why don't they just blow up the Earth? Or at least introduce a deadly disease that kills us all? Why didn't they do this 200,000 years ago?

They seem to want to keep us alive for some reason. Maybe Earth is like a computer game to them.

If "XX" is so evil, why doesn't "XX" do "XX". How is that argument not flawed? How can you judge whether or not something is evil, but a SPECIFIC task? Generally, evil would mean something along the lines of self-serving, beyond any consideration for the feelings, well-being, and life of things around the said person. Having said that, what makes you think ETs WANT to kill humans? Why would it serve them?

If ETs have a specific agenda, and killing humans doesn't bring them closer to whatever agenda they have, then why on EARTH would them killing us determine if they are evil or not?

Just because a person is evil, doesn't mean they randomly kill every SINGLE thing around them.

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WRONG.

Guy Malone and cohorts (e.g. researcher Joseph Jordan) have more than 400 case studies documenting otherwise.

www.alienresistance.org...

Also, there have been cases where humans have been mutilated just like cattle . . . without anesthetic . . .

And nice critters do not routinely rape victims.

And nice critters do not chronically LIE, LIE, LIE, LIE!

And nice critters do not support a satanic globalist oligarchy toward overt establishment of a satanic global government just as predicted 2,000 years ago for this era.

Wake-up folks.

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reply to post by kronos11


I don't think Hollywood are the ones portraying ET's as evil incarnate, but rather various sects of mainstream religions are.

They see the growing trend of people believing in the existence of life outside of Earth, as a very real and distinct threat to their organised and regimented belief system.

And they're right..it is a threat.

Good job too IMO, sense over superstition can only ever be a good thing for our species, and the sooner our religious fairly tales come to an end, the better off we'll all be.

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However . . . given that one spiritually based construction on reality has abundant proof over a very long time as to its valid description of REAL events, structures, dynamics etc. . . .

and the delusions from hell are just that . . .

I think your constructions on such "realities" are likely to be proven extremely wrong, deceptive and destructive . . . to you and others.

Evidently you have not ever fair-mindedly examined Guy Malone and Joseph J's evidence.

Evidently you don't even believe in some of your countryman Timothy Good's evidence.

Sigh.
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