Christianity is finished in the UK "Well thank god for that!"

Originally posted by spellbound
reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage

 

I am saying, as I have said repeatedly, that man-made religion is evil.

I believe In Jesus Christ, not in the corrupted church which bears His name.

I see, sorry if I was a bit thick there. But are we sure that the increase in Islamic believers are not just practicing certain principles and believe in the Quraon, perhaps they don't believe in organized religion either or shoving their faith down people's throats.

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reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage


Also, under Islam everything is compulsory.

If people would like to see the Islamic religion take over Britain in place of the Christian religion good luck to them, and Jesus help the world.

Given the number of mosques and associated beliefs in Britain today, I would say this is likely.

This how the enemy infiltrates if they have not won the obvious war.

Lot of talk about the minutiae of belief & variety of sects... My main problem with judaism, christianity & islam, well apart from their ridiculous, outmoded, pre-birthcontrol, destructive & divisive attitudes towards sex, is simply their god.
If it is the case that what I perceive as numinous is truly divine, in the "creator" sense, & not just a product of my psychological makeup or brain architecture then it bears no resemblance to a "father".
Hardly surprising really. We're told the god of Abraham made man in his own image? Then 'he' is a woman. The female is the template of life. The truncated Y chromasome is a mutation. Also, the Mitochondrial DNA, which allowed the 1st animals to become complex multi-cellular organisms, is passed through the female line. If there truly is only 1 deity, she is a goddess.

reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage


Projection perhaps? Though I will say you have nil for psychic powers. You can call yourself victorious all you wish but just doesn't make it so. To justify and to explain is essentially the same thing and thusly interchangable *otherwords synonomous, which is part of the reason english is a pain in the butt to learn as a second langauge*. You attempted to use both as if this was not so. Not that I have any particular need to prove anything or have the delusion you would allow me to think I had.
You are and have been trying to hide the fact that your classic knee jerk response was to justify bad behavior by pointing out the bad behavior of a group you consider your opponent, which you obviously most enjoy ridiculing.

reply to post by spellbound

If people would like to see the Islamic religion take over Britain in place of the Christian religion

I don't think anybody wants this, I think they want both gone, but if Christianity is the only one to go now I'll take what I can get.


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reply to post by Watcher-In-The-Shadows


I think the fact that you claim to find me so trivial yet are so fixated on the tiniest of things, like me clearly using a word that is interchangeable but meaning it in one way (which you refuse to grasp), shows a lot more about you than me.

Edit: Alright I'm going to bed, I expect the token attempting-to-be-harsh-and-intelligent-and-superior-yet-being-equally-infantile response from you when I return.

[edit on 7-7-2009 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
reply to post by spellbound

 

If people would like to see the Islamic religion take over Britain in place of the Christian religion

I don't think anybody wants this, I think they want both gone, but if Christianities the only one to go now I'll take what I can get.

[edit on 7-7-2009 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

Not possible... All the Western people would IMMEDIATELY revolt to make sure Islam doesn't get rooted fully in UK... we would have protests. Discrmimination. In-fighting. Opposition. Laws. Accusations.

No one's doing that to Christianity... no one's flying planes out to Vatican City like they're flying out to Iran and Afghanistan to stop widespread Christianity like they're trying to stop widespread Islam.

reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage


I agree, but the person who started this thread said "Great, Christianity is nearly gone in Britain" and I am pointing out that this could be a huge problem.

At least Christianity allows you some freedom whereas Islam does not.

And I am very concerned that Britain will soon become an Islamic nation.

reply to post by DASFEX

I wasn't aware homosexuals were a species moocowman

I don't recall implying that they were, now you mention it though if your god created everything, but hates homosexuality. One would then have to assume that homosexuality was not created by your god as he wouldn't logically have created it in the first place.

So if your god didn't create homosexuality , then would a have to seek elsewhere. Elsewhere would imply another source for homosexuality, so in your paradigm yes this could imply that homosexuals are a different species.

Well done for that I would be very interested to hear from homosexuals as to whether or not the would be comfortable considering themselves as a separate species to the mankind created by the jesus Yawhwe god.

I'm going to give you a star for this post my friend "High Five"



Remember we are told god did not hate the homosexual, so one can reasonably assume he loved the homosexual as it is very difficult to envisage an indifferent god.

You keep refering to this thing as "the homosexual" are you sure you don't mean "Homosapeinne" ?

I don't consider homosexuals "things" dude, their people, remember I'm not the one that would kill them for being who they are. The homosexual,a homosexual, the gay, a gay the fag, a fag, the queer a queer.

There you go i think that covers the full spectrum of labels attached by xtianity to men that have sometimes physical sometimes platonic and often times loving relationships with other men. (or women for that matter, jesus yahwe's misogyny somewhat clouds the issue.

So, god creates something and loves what he creates, but hates the way his creation acts even though he created it and everything else in the universes as there is nothing that was not created by god.

Again, you lost me there but I kinda think I got some of it and Ill explain something to you. We are not a sinner because we sin, we sin because we ARE sinners.

So we are not the action we are the cause ? Okey dokey I get you

So you my friend are a sinner, you claim (generalizing xtians here sorry) you were created by a god yahwehjesus.

You by your own reasoning claim you were created a sinner, and a sinner obviously sins so you we created this way.

Hm that is exactly what I was getting at, ie whatever you do is because of what you are . And all of humanity does what id does because of what it is, what humanity is is waht it was deigned to be and the designer was/is ywhwejesus god.

Ok I can go with that, in a nutshell then we do what we do because god made us that way, fair enough but I'm surprised to say the least that you think that way.

Once again we are in agreement on something in Principal, great news my friend, see there is hope for humanity yet.

So in that context, we have all been attempting to fight against what we are and we are all sinners according to the stable datum I use for truth and if you are referring to the Christian God

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I haven't been fighting against anything dude I accept who I am is what I do, I am quite happy with what I do, but if I'm not then I changed what I do so i'm happy with who I am once again.

I can tell you are so mis-led about the scriptures no wonder

Then clearly the scriptures are misleading, I read something ,I apply my reasoning to it. In this case what I read is supposed to be the word of an omniscient/omnipresent being, clearly this being is an appalling communicator because if it wanted me to be aware of something then it would simple make it so, not get someones great great great great uncles friends brothers cousin to write it down in a language I wouldn't be acquainted with. Then translate it several times over that omit portions of it to suit editorial whims.

you hate what you think your daughter is learning, my my I doubt it could be any worse than your knowledge of him.

My children have a copy of one of the bibles, they simply don't need to learn anything from a third party if the bibles are the inerrant word of a god, isn't the gods' word enough ?


Here we have a very difficult problem, the god you would have me worship, kills what he loves and creates what he hates. We know that he kills what he loves because he killed his own son

Not a problem at all, because that isn't the God I would have you or anyone else worship, that is the one someone else told you about without the benefit of its contextual reference.

Which god people choose to worship is up to them, nevertheless your god would kill them for not worshiping it, and has often(according to your scriptures) ordered people to do that very thing on it's behalf.

No one told me about your yahweh jesus god, I just read about it in your bibles.

The instruction to kill children is quite clear whatever context you choose to surround it with.

It is totally unacceptable to kill a child let alone my own, this is absolutely repugnant behavior.

Clearly your gods morals are far beneath my own, I would be ashamed to call this entity my father as it's example is despicable.

He killed his own son? was it God that that nailed his son to the cross for you so he fix the corruption of sin in our DNA.

According to you and xtianity god is the creator of all that there is.
God is yahweh and also jesus they are one and the same being.

According to xtianity jesus was nailed to a cross as part of plan of redemption.
If the romans had not nailed him to the cross, if the jews had released jesus not barabbas, if judas had not sold him out, then clearly the plan would have failed and we would not be speaking right now.

Clearly the plan went ahead, and the plan was designed by the creator of everything, so could not, not go ahead. A god planned and carried out the killing of its' own son which was also himself,and was not out of character for this god to commit or be an accessory to infanticide.

This god had a record of infanticide on the scale of genocide, however in this particular instance, the death was a sham, because -

A) jesus came back to life 3 days later

B) The killer and the victim were one and the same being ie yahweh/jesus and a god by definition cannot die.

So this was obviously the biggest fraud in history.

reply to post by KarlG


Islam is deeply rooted in Britain, thanks to immigration etc and the building of all those mosques - and you are telling me no?

I sincerely hope that you are right and I am wrong.

reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage


Nope, it is you that repeatly declare that you have "trumped" me. Bringing it up again and again and again. Despite the larger issue and my attempts to direct it back there.

Edit response to your edit: Love the tired classic passive aggressive retreat response. Had briefly thought of using it myself. Most likely still think you are making me mad.

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reply to post by moocowman


You know what Moo?

I don't think it matters what people say about homosexuals or anything else.

I think what you have to realize is that there will be some religion or other ruling over your kids and your family and your life and I would rather it was the so-called Christian religion than the Islamic one.

I fully agree with you that our children should not be brainwashed, but they are going to be regardless so please choose the Christian religion over Islam. At least you can correct them when they come home from school.

Originally posted by spellbound
reply to post by KarlG

 

Islam is deeply rooted in Britain, thanks to immigration etc and the building of all those mosques - and you are telling me no?

I sincerely hope that you are right and I am wrong.

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I mean rooted as in Christianity rooted. Where a LARGE majority are Muslim, not just the migrants.

Where such a discussion thread as this one, replacing Christianity with Islam, would garner as much controversy and so many different opinions in so little time.

reply to post by spellbound

And I am very concerned that Britain will soon become an Islamic nation.

Britain will never become an Islamic nation, why ?

Because the xtians etc and secularist would need to be converted or killed.

British people will never stop eating beef

There is millions being made out of lager and alco pops.

The sun newspaper would have to go out of business

Who the funking hell is going to wake up to the great Islamic breakfast ?

British people will believe a man can live inside a fish but flying horses are ridiculous

No amount of camels on this planet will get a British girl to keep her tits covered.

reply to post by moocowman


OK, many major newspapers in the US have crashed. What makes you think British ones won't?

I repeat, I hope you are right and I am wrong.

You know how it is easier for someone outside the situation to see what is happening? We all know that. OK, I am in NZ and I think Britain is being too complacent.

reply to post by KarlG


Karl, I don't understand your point here?

I would love to discuss it but I don't know what your point is?

reply to post by spellbound

please choose the Christian religion over Islam.

Dude you just don't get it do you all this screaming "The Muslims are coming the Muslims are coming"

Is nothing but BS fear mongering , Muslims have been living in the uk for years, like only now people have noticed ?

This is partly the xtian propaganda machine.

let's see a little sense here, the uk military is currently engaged along with others in killing Muslims on their own turf. Now they are either being killed because of their beliefs or for mineral and oil wealth.

Well they certainly don't seem to be being killed because of their beliefs because the flirt ones that would require killing would be the Muslims in Britain.

I had lunch with the kids in a restaurant the other day , we were at one time the only white non arab/asian people in there.

Guess what ? Yes that's right no one stole my daughter we are still alive and the sandals I wear are my own choice from tesco.

Please please stop continuing to try and make people run to jesus out of fear. you only hammer another nail into the xtian coffin.

reply to post by spellbound

OK, many major newspapers in the US have crashed. What makes you think British ones won't?

Because ours contain mostly pictures, and they are of tits

Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows reply to post by Bunken Drum

Just pointing out why wild sex *I took the silly presumption of that meaning also multiple differing partners* is not a good idea. Without the use of a judgemental diety.

Au contraire, wild sex with "multiple differing partners" simply requires a pile of condoms so that one doesn't risk carrying an infection from 1 partner to the next.
I honestly think that if AIDS hadn't occured, christianity would be almost non-existant in the west. A judgemental deity to follow instead of just admitting fear... how very & sadly human...

reply to post by moocowman


I have never pushed Jesus on people.

I have never pushed anything on people.

You have missed my point entirely. We speak different languages.

Good luck.