Cincinnati 9/11 Truth parade WTF

Dont Americans cheer at anyone holding the Stars and Stripes. They could of been shouting "your all going to FEMA camps" but, as long that flag keeps flying they keep cheering.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Dont Americans cheer at anyone holding the Stars and Stripes. They could of been shouting "your all going to FEMA camps" but, as long that flag keeps flying they keep cheering.

Pretty much. Reminds me of this:

reply to post by TrueAmerican

Wow. Look at all those nasty terrorists, doing what they do best! Terrorizing the streets of Cincinnati!

Heh, I know right? Cincinnati mus be in a panic!

People are disrespecting the government, the world must be coming to an end!

Despite whether or not 911 was/is a hoax, and the surrounding facts about it, when I see such truth movements I feel they hop onto a website like this, and believe EVERY single thing they read that is against the official story.

With no more research, nada.

But we're not discussing sites like this are we? We're discussing people organizing functions for the movement. The vast majority of people I see who participate in these things or organize them have done enough research to know that another investigation is needed, despite what theories they may consider to explain the true events. If most of them haven't then I doubt they'd bother organizing and protesting or parading in the first place.

Gorehoundlarry - your claim that countless witnesses to explosions (including numerous experienced emergency workers) were all mistaken and were hearing something that sounded to them like explosions, but was something else entirely, is absurd. I could prove the point by reposting dozens of detailed and unambiguous reports of explosions, but let's leave this aside and consider the more significant statement you made afterwards.

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
Bush was informed about the attacks. He was informed America was going to be under attack. They were all warned. However, in order to go into Iraq or strengthen their administration and the new laws they wanted to pass, they let the attacks happen. Of course, non of this is believable to you 9/11 truthers...

I find it extraordinary that the heat of your argument is defining yourself against the tribe you call "truthers" while agreeing that the Bush administration condemned almost 3000 citizens to horrible deaths.

Wouldn't it be more fruitful to join those who demand an end to the cover-up and some real accountability for 9/11?

Originally posted by warrenb
reply to post by Blundo

 

the US of A needs more people with cohones to do things like this

s/f

I Give them a ton of credit and respect for doing this. It Takes HUGE Nads, sticking their necks out their for all of us!, yes, even the ones that don't believe and refuse to believe the evidence, and the ones that Don't Want Us To Believe.

This weekend was encouraging for me(Us), that a 21 year old kid, one of my best friends nephew that I have known all his life and haven't seen in a few years, well, he is completely aware of what is going on with Govt., politics, Media, Fed Reserve, etc...!

(My opinion)(it is only an opinion, its not true!) I thought most young people were pretty much clueless during this last election and such and will only wake up or see the truth beyond the point of no return for our country.

Come on Kids, Prove Me Wrong!!!!

reply to post by EvilAxis


Radical religious extremists were responsible for the attacks. The Bush administration knew about the attacks beforehand. Nothing was done in order to prevent the attacks. THEREFORE, 9/11 took place.

The reason for why they let it all happen is up to debate. I have my theories and a lot of people have their own as well.

Do I believe the government organized the horrific event that took place? No. That's just my opinion. Please don't flame me and accept my OPINIONS on the matter. You have yours, I have mine.

reply to post by GorehoundLarry

"The Bush administration was not capable of pulling off the September 11th attacks. If the government can't handle Iraq, I guarantee you that they would not be able to pull of an attack on their own country murdering over 2000 innocent people. The operation would have been extremely sloppy butguess what? It wasn't. It was a clean cut."

Do you really think the Bush administration was in charge? Him and his cronies are just PR reps that are paraded around in front of our faces in a pseudo political farce to keep people like you arguing over democrats and republicans while the real leaders (sorry, OWNERS) of us can do their business in peace.

I mean look at men like David Rockerfeller. That is one of, if not THE man, in charge of the world. Comparing Bush's wealth and political connections with David Rockerfellers is like comparing a bic lighter to the sun.

"What bugs me most about that day? The explosions from the buildings. Bombs going off. Really? Bombs? If you were in the city that day. If you were at the twin towers while they were being destroyed. Any loud noise must have sounded like an explosion. It's called a building falling apart. Of course, you just saw two planes explode into buildings. Any bang is going to sound like a bomb in your mind."

Were you in the city? Are you a demolitions expert? I'm sorry, but in one of the videos posted earlier you can clearly hear an explosion. And how were the buildings falling apart before they collapsed? I think any intelligent person is going to believe eyewitnesses and on-scene videos over someone who was watching the event on TV miles away.

"Bush invaded Iraq for his own personal reasons. And oil has an important role in the invasion as well. We all know that. I don't see how that connects to 9/11 at all, to be honest so why bring it up?"

WOW!!! How are they NOT connected. You even said yourself that Bush claimed that Saddam was harboring terrorists. So please, how are they not connected?

"I guess I don't believe 9/11 was a complete inside job because the so called evidence I see, isn't really convincing. At all. The only puzzling piece of the whole thing is the Pentagon. That's about it."

This is the problem. People like you see the Pentagon and admit that it all looks very strange. But this opens up Pandora's Box, and when you see that lid start opening you push down on it with all your might because the thought of what's inside scares the living daylights out of you. I'm sorry to say that one day that lid is going to pop, and the harder and longer you push, the bigger the blast is going to be.

"Since the attacks, was anyone really brought to justice? No. Not even Osama. There is much evidence to show that his organization was behind 9/11."

Then why haven't we caught him? The CIA and the Pentagon have a multi-billion dollar spy network with satellites, undercover operatives and god knows what other gadgets, and they can't find him. Yet some 2-bit reporter and a camera crew manage to get an exclusive interview. Come on people!



I do think that terrorists were involved in 9/11, but they didn't have the means to pull it off. So, TPTB secretly facilitate the attack with funding, weapons and intel, and when the planes hit they blow the bombs that turn a couple of plane crashes into a massive disaster. Now they have an excuse to take away your freedoms. Hitler did the same thing with the Reichstag Fire Decree.

I just want to end with this. Doesn't anyone find it a tad bit coincidental that the only three steel-framed buildings to EVER collapse due to fire happened on the same day, within a few hours of other, and were all right next to each other. I rest my case.

posted by GorehoundLarry
reply to post by EvilAxis

 

Radical religious extremists were responsible for the attacks. The Bush administration knew about the attacks beforehand. Nothing was done in order to prevent the attacks. THEREFORE, 9/11 took place.

Of course.

You mean the radical religious extremist Zionist NeoCONs running the Bush Regime.

They desperately needed a catastrophic and catalyzing New Pearl Harbor Event for revolutionary change. 9-11 was their planned event.

George HW Bush started setting it up when he was CIA Director way back in 1976.



But as thedonjuan pointed out above; there are masters of the New World Order pulling the strings from above. Yes even the NeoCONs were just following orders. Some of the masters are the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, the Bronfmans, the Oppenheimers, and others.





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well every 9/11 thread is almost an interesting insight into human psychology


lots of people have moved on to believing the gov't knew and allowed it......but not taking the next step

The things is that in an operation the knowledge is compartmentalized.......when people say they don't think the "Gov't" did it that imply's that they think 1000 gov't officials had to be in on it to plan it......

I wonder if information within intelligence agency's are also compartmentalized......i think it would take a couple gov't officals here like a rummy and cheney (confuse and or shut down Norad)....a handful of intelligence agency officers here.....using and aiding some wanna be terrorists there ....a few people capable of security clearance there and walla

but you know what if these are infact LIES.....these are the lies that are necessary now to hold the rule of law together....wether the majority of the PTB realize what really happened that day.....they could all agree that "the truth " would be potentially very destabalizing for society and the gov't itself....there fore the official story wether a lie or not must be protected by national security interests.

Anybody trying to organize and or who marches will be labeled a "low level terrorist threat" i would put money on it

Enough people won't stand up unless there is so much economic pain that people will be willing to believe anything anti-govt in order to demand change..........the frogs are slow boil'n as the infrastructure for fascism is being set up should it be needed

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reply to post by Blundo


OMG! These retards shame me to say I live in Cincinnati. LMAO, only in Northside where it is full of dumb, drunk, lazy, redneck, inbreeding, Appalachians.

This only goes to prove my theory that 911 truthers are just a bunch of people looking for something to blame their failures on.

Edit - to add inbreeding

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Wow, this is awesome. First, the one kid handing out flyers was 2 when the attacks happened and the rest, the guy with the mic was what, 10? They are parading during the day of our independence spewing lies..

These are the highlights I like the best....

"Military grade thermite in the dust"....lie....there is no evidence.

"free Fall speed....10 story buildings"???? what 10 story building???

"thermite is not made in a cave"....

but my favorite would be the people laughing at them....


Looped footage was also a nice touch and also, where is the OVERWHELMING response.

I think the use of kids and filling their heads with this rhetoric is right up there with white supremacist or black panthers giving kids an altered history. Sick.

Cannot take this thread seriously. At all.

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Dont Americans cheer at anyone holding the Stars and Stripes. They could of been shouting "your all going to FEMA camps" but, as long that flag keeps flying they keep cheering.

Pretty much. Reminds me of this:

Your contribution is Family Guy?!

What is the deal with all the hot air? Are getting paid for it?

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
You don't want to believe that there are religious extremists out in the world that want to harm us.

I don't know anyone that really thinks that, so that would be a false assumption.

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
Bin Laden is (or was) in charge of the operation.

The FBI would beg to differ. In fact, the FBI has said there's no hard evidence linking bin Laden to 9/11.

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
The Bush administration was not capable of pulling off the September 11th attacks.

The strongest country and mightiest military in the world could not pull off 9/11, but some losers in a cave could? I don't know who's leg you think you're pulling, but nobody falls for that excuse anymore.

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
It was a clean cut.

Exactly. Clean-cut with military precision, not some losers from a cave.

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
Since the attacks, was anyone really brought to justice? No. Not even Osama.

Six months after 9/11, Bush had already publicly stated that he "truly wasn't concerned about bin Laden":

www.liveleak.com...

How can public enemy number one not be a concern just six months after the attack?

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
There is much evidence to show that his organization was behind 9/11.

Again, FBI says no hard evidence linking bin Laden to 9/11. So where's all this evidence at you say there is? I'm sure the FBI would love to see it as well.

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
What bugs me most about that day? The explosions from the buildings. Bombs going off. Really? Bombs? If you were in the city that day. If you were at the twin towers while they were being destroyed. Any loud noise must have sounded like an explosion. It's called a building falling apart. Of course, you just saw two planes explode into buildings. Any bang is going to sound like a bomb in your mind.

This entire statement shows you've done zero research on the subject of 9/11. If you had done research, you would know about the explosions that destroyed the lobby, the basement levels, killed or severely injured many down in the basement levels. There are videos of the smoke rising from the bases of the towers from these explosions in the lower levels:

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Then, had you done any real research into 9/11, you'd know about the oral histories of the firefighters, police, EMT and other first responders that were there. I'll post a few of them:

Richard Banaciski, 9110253

It seemed like on television they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions...

Karin Deshore, 9110192

Somewhere around the middle of the (north tower), there was this orange and red flash coming out. Initially it was just one flash. Then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode. The popping sound, and with each popping sound it was initially an orange and then red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides as far as I could see. These popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger, going both up and down and then all around the building.

Stephen Gregory, 9110008

I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him because I thought -- at that time I didn't know what it was. I mean, it could have been as a result of the building collapsing, things exploding, but I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down.

Q. Was that on the lower level of the building or up where the fire was?

A. No, the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building, how when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That's what I thought I saw.

Q. On the television pictures it appeared as well, before the first collapse, that there was an explosion up on the upper floors.

A. I know about the explosion on the upper floors. This was like eye level. I didn't have to go like this. Because I was looking this way. I'm not going to say it was on the first floor or the second floor, but somewhere in that area I saw to me what appeared to be flashes.

Now watch the following video and read the above again:

video.google.com...

See all the flashes going up, down and around the whole building in the video above? Just like as described above by first responders on-scene describing the collapses of the towers.

Now a few more quotes:

Gregg Brady, 9110184

I heard 3 loud explosions. I look up and the north tower is coming down now.

Frank Campagna, 9110224

You see 3 explosions and then the whole thing (north tower) coming
down.

Craig Carlsen, 9110505

I guess about three minutes later you just heard explosions coming from building two, the south tower. It seemed like it took forever, but there were about ten explosions.

The above quotes can be corroborated by the documentary called "9/11 Eyewithness" and this link is Part 1. Parts 2 and 3 are there as well. The video is shot from 2 miles away from the WTC so you won't hear the steel beams breaking or crashing through each other. Only the unadulterated sounds of the explosives being detonated.

The video corroborates the first responders testimony above to 3 loud explosions in the north tower before collapse (there were actually more, but 3 loud one's are evident). And from Craig Carlsen above who said there were 10 explosions in the south tower before collapse. "9/11 Eyewitness" picked up 9 of the explosions, I believe, and they even point them out to you so you don't miss them.

The above is just a handful of the hundreds of testimonies given by firefighters, police, EMT and other first responders on-scene. Their testimony is identical to known controlled demolitions and/or corroborated by video recorded of that day.

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
they let the attacks happen

Just like if President Kennedy had went along with Operation Northwoods, you'd be sitting in that same chair saying the same thing about him as well. That they knew about the attacks and let them happen so we could go to war with Cuba.

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
Of course, non of this is believable to you 9/11 truthers

That's because all available evidence suggests otherwise.

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
somehow Bush was the mastermind behind the largest attack on our soil

Bush was not. The military joint chiefs were more than likely the masterminds. Just like they were the masterminds of Operation Nothwoods in the 1960's.

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
Do I believe the government organized the horrific event that took place? No. That's just my opinion. Please don't flame me and accept my OPINIONS on the matter. You have yours, I have mine.

Then you need to stop saying things like "radical extremists were responsible" unless you put "in my opinion" after it. If the FBI has no hard evidence, how can you be so certain?

Originally posted by esdad71
"Military grade thermite in the dust"....lie....there is no evidence.

Either you are lying, or you're just denying. Have you looked around the 9/11 forum lately?

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe


You can call it a lie all you want due to your childish denial making you do so. However, your opinion of it being a lie is just that. Because the dust was tested in labs and your comment was just tested in your head.

reply to post by masonwatcher


Actually, it is a perfect analogy. Some people will follow anyone...just look who is in office right now? Doing a bang up job is he not? But he promised change like these guys promise the truth???

Who will you all blame when a suitcase nuke or bio attack happens in LA, Tampa or Phoenix? I will bet, no I will state, that none of you have read the 9/11 commission report because you have read or heard that it is BS? Because if you did, most of the questions posed would be answered.

Also, can you please tell me why the government would lace 3 buildings with explosives but not the Pentagon? Why not? Also, since there were FOUR planes, there must be ANOTHER building somewhere filled with DARPA engineered super nano-thermite. Right?

Think for yourself, pick up a book and then you will learn the truth...for yourself...the internet is for porno folks not reality...

as my signature reads...

“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion,” Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York was fond of saying. “He is not entitled to his own facts.” Sooner or later, even the wildest 9/11 theories rely on factual claims. And facts can be checked.

Well, alright. If you say so








was ET behind 9/11 as well?

Originally posted by masonwatcher

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Dont Americans cheer at anyone holding the Stars and Stripes. They could of been shouting "your all going to FEMA camps" but, as long that flag keeps flying they keep cheering.

Pretty much. Reminds me of this:

Your contribution is Family Guy?!

What is the deal with all the hot air? Are getting paid for it?

You fail.

Come again.

Originally posted by _BoneZ_

Originally posted by esdad71
"Military grade thermite in the dust"....lie....there is no evidence.

Either you are lying, or you're just denying. Have you looked around the 9/11 forum lately?

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe


You can call it a lie all you want due to your childish denial making you do so. However, your opinion of it being a lie is just that. Because the dust was tested in labs and your comment was just tested in your head.

Looked around the 9/11 forum lately???hmmm, I wonder. Maybe I am just upholding the motto of this site and denying ignorance.

DID you read the report that was published by Jones or take it as gold because it fits your opinion of what happened? Did you? It was, sorry, garbage with nothing to prove. That is not and opinion, it is a fact. A fact. There is NO thermitic reaction...none. There is a reason he paid to post that report and did not have it peer reviewed because he would have ended up just like when he tried to prove cold fusion.

Now more than ever I am convinced that Jones is a disinfo agent who is working for the government so more people do not look into 93 and the shoot down. You see, unlike some people who you feel blindly follow the official story, I do not believe it all. I believe we, the US, shot down 93.

Honestly, the last thing our country needs is to spend more tax payer money we do not have to prove something that did not happen such as the use of thermite....

reply to post by GorehoundLarry

You fail.

Come again.

Fail what? Either you are sublimating your own position or you know something pertinent about me that I don't know.

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