Warnings From The Benevolents!

reply to post by AmmonSeth

Hi AmmonSeth,

I am fed up with you ET_MAN,

I'm sorry to hear that you feel that way, I'm not fed up with you AmmonSeth and I sincerely hope that you're doing OK.

Who are you to tell other people how to live or die? You do not have the right.

Aren't you kind of telling me how to live in suggesting such a thing?

Everyone is free to choose/believe anything they want to believe, that is their own freewill/choice.

Have I forced anyone to visit this thread?

Nobody was forced to read or click on this thread and as I've previously stated in the thread, when the questions/comments stop, so does this thread stop.

From a completely outside perspective, how are you going to explain yourself when you kneel before those that you falsely claim to speak for?

I kneel before nobody because that is NOT the way LOVE is and NOT the way it works, the true “Family Of Light” does not require worship, rituals, ceremonies and kneeling as a slave would to a master.

The very thought of kneeling before someone reminds me of general Zod.

“Kneel Before Zod.”

I can tell you first hand that your heading towards a fate you will regret with every ounce of your existence when the time comes.

The HEART and INTENT of a person is what counts, it's the LOVE one possesses inside and shares with others that counts. I have nothing to worry about or fear.

If you look back near to the start of your discussion you will see that i mentioned a very specific date, Find that date and try to repent for your actions before then.

What is a date when there is no time? I send you nothing but LOVE and hope that you can see that LOVE is what it's truly all about.

Regardless of one-1's differences in belief or perspective there should always be LOVE in the mix, and that LOVE should be shared between everyone-1 regardless of belief or religion.

Love & Peace
Respectfully
Best Wishes!

Peace be upon you Et_Man

Can you sum up what will occur on 10 2011 or lead me to-- in this huge-- thread a synopsis of your ideas regarding this date

Peace and blessings

Inforeal

reply to post by ET_MAN


lately i have felt there is a spiritual awakening,knowledge being past down by osmosis. I feel like a sponge soaking in the information,its like finally waking up.

reply to post by Beamish


Be glad that this whole thread is so ridiculous that the only people dumb enough to follow it are on ATS. Frankly, anyone who believes this trash has it coming to them anyway -- if you can't sort it out, well then you deserve to drink the cool-aid, survival of the fittest baby.

As for your attempts at responding to these annoyingly long and stupid posts by ET_MAN I refer to the movie wargames - The only way to win is not to play the game. Good luck Beamish, I'll tune in a month to see who is trying to argue then.

P.S. You know it is within the realm of possibilities that ET_MAN and Unity99 are the same poster with different screen names. Wouldn't that be a conspiracy?

reply to post by ET_MAN


Hey ET Man, Question for you

How was this message of the end date and the nature of universe conveyed to you?
-Your name having "ET", was it an alien who told you?
-Are you a New Age believer and message was "channeled" to you by a higher being?
-Is this your fantasy?
-Is this your conviction and you came up with it on your own?
-Was this message given to you by your God? (If so, what religion?)

I ask this because I have been following your thread for a long time.
I have read a lot of what you have said and found it very interesting.
I believe you are genuine and you really believe in what you say.

BUT PLEASE, REVEAL TO US HOW THIS MESSAGE WAS CONVEYED TO YOU!!!!!

It is important for me to know the source of your knowledge.
You must tell.

Thanks have a good day

reply to post by ET_MAN


ET Man

Please give me a straight forward answer.
Please be honest.
Tell me the day that you realized/learnt the message.
How did you realize it?

Possible Answer can be... telephatic communication, from a dream, from God, from self realization... You know what Im sayin??

Thanks

reply to post by lavenderlake

Too funny...you took my post so personally! The inspiration for my post came from another hateful poster but if what I said rings true for you then feel free to choose to take offense and make sarcastic remarks.

Yea, ok. You’re the one who put a red, capitalized banner at the head of your post to attract attention, and don’t tell me that your objection to anyone posting on this thread who doesn’t follow the party line wasn’t aimed at me too.

As far as your question....It is my truth. Just because it resonates with me does not mean that it is your truth and I completely respect that.

That’s not an answer. A truth being “yours” does not make it accurate.

reply to post by win 52

Beamish, I was wondering why you weren't keeping us in line, in here.

Hello win 52. I would have sworn that you had me on ignore.

Very glad to find out I was wrong.

By the way, I’m not on ATS to keep anyone in line, just to offer a different viewpoint.

Threads like this are all about balance, aren’t they?


Edit: coding.

[edit on 29-5-2010 by Beamish]

reply to post by Beamish


I see you get the standard responces that I always get myself. I`ve questioned his motives myself, and in my opinion, what I figured out is, because it comes from ET_MAN, he is always in the right, no matter what. It doesn`t matter if the original content of this topic was nothing but doom and gloom, that`s ok. Even though the use of it goes over board, and in my opinion, that`s not a good thing, it`s ok, because it`s him. I gather that in his mind, he is not subject to the universal laws as we are. And yes, before some of you comment on this, he IS subject to them, there in no getting around it. The use of fear, or putting a scare into someone just to help motivate them spiritually, is fine to a point, if it is explained to the people in the process and not continued without an end. But that didn`t happen until he was confronted about it. Why did it take someone confronting him to get this when it should have been posted like that at the start? Did he forget that part? Could be, but it could also be that it never crossed his mind what this could really do to other peoples minds. People forget, information of this nature should be given out in small amounts a little at a time, NOT just bulldozed into the face of the public like it was. You see this happening all over the internet, and it gets sickening.

What I will say is, don`t make a habit of following every word of just one person. If it`s information that your seeking, go to the greatest place to find it, within yourselves. THAT should have been the message from the very start. Right?

reply to post by pepesilvia


Hello pepesilvia.

Be glad that this whole thread is so ridiculous that the only people dumb enough to follow it are on ATS. Frankly, anyone who believes this trash has it coming to them anyway -- if you can't sort it out, well then you deserve to drink the cool-aid, survival of the fittest baby.

As to imagining that this is just an ATS-based discussion; it would probably surprise you to Google the name “ET_MAN”, and see how many sites have linked to this thread. It has nearly gone world-wide.

And thanks for putting the pressure in me to sort this out! I’m not here to do that, by the way, but to put forward both my opinion and an alternate viewpoint. It’s what I do, for what it’s worth.

And as to cool-aid; can I have a Beamish instead?

As for your attempts at responding to these annoyingly long and stupid posts by ET_MAN I refer to the movie wargames - The only way to win is not to play the game. Good luck Beamish, I'll tune in a month to see who is trying to argue then.

Is it a game? Interesting. I like winning, as it happens…

P.S. You know it is within the realm of possibilities that ET_MAN and Unity99 are the same poster with different screen names. Wouldn't that be a conspiracy?

ET_MAN and Unity_99 aren’t the same poster; their writing styles are too dissimilar, and their approaches are extremely different.

Besides, I know who one of them is, and that they were formerly banned from ATS.

But that doesn't preclude them from knowing each other outside of this site...

reply to post by inforeal

Peace be upon you Et_Man

Seriously? Please do me a favour…

How about fare puteus , vicis viator bona illis supremus nos?

I don’t mind a sincere, balanced conversation about the subject matter, but this pseudo-religious clap-trap is just mind-numbingly sycophantic.

reply to post by FiatLux

Hi FiatLux,

If it`s information that your seeking, go to the greatest place to find it, within yourselves. THAT should have been the message from the very start. Right?

Here's a quote taken from the very first post - page 1.

I plainly say it is within you to know if my words are true or not.

If there's anything out there that someone could possibly say or write that causes you to fear than you better start working on overcoming that fear and facing that fear because the fear lies within you.

"This thread is not about doom and gloom but it’s about understanding the doom and gloom and overcoming 'fear' of the doom and gloom."

"The whole secret of existence is to have no fear," Buddha

Best Wishes!

[edit on 29-5-2010 by ET_MAN]

[edit on 05/29/2010 by Maiden PEI]

reply to post by ET_MAN


"I plainly say it is within you to know if my words are true or not."

Uh huh, yea, I see. Now, does that tell them what it is that is within them that would let them know? Did the way you phrase that tell them everything, or was that just a tease? I`m sure you can do better than that as an explanation.


"I'm afraid I couldn't blame you for having doubts but I would hope you find the answers out for yourself instead of blindly passing this information by."

Your statement above was taken from page 1. How many pages of "information" does it take before you explain to them how they are suppose to find that information within them, and just what it is that IS within them that has this "information"?

"This thread is not about doom and gloom but it’s about understanding the doom and gloom and overcoming 'fear' of the doom and gloom."

Really? And from what page does this quote come from?

You see ET_MAN, my point in all of this, is the fact, that what you share really isn`t a secret, or anything special or even new. Yes, it may be to some, but that is why they need to be taught how to find that within them, and without the use of fear. We`re all time travelers ET_MAN, we exist in the past, present and future, all at the same moment, that part is within us all. I didn`t have an ET come to me when I was very young telling me all of this, and that is when my first understandings of these things happened. Many are here now sharing these things with everyone, and they don`t have to draw a crowd to do it. I have faith in the human race to make it through this. Why the lack of faith on ET`s part, that they need to send someone like yourself to the past, just to "teach" people?

reply to post by FiatLux

Hi FiatLux,

How many pages of "information" does it take before you explain to them how they are suppose to find that information within them,

As you may know FiatLux, I've been answering questions from the very beginning and now were at page 184.

I don't have to be here answering people's questions.

Now whether you agree with anything that I share or not that is your own freewill/choice, nobody is forcing you to visit this thread or believe in anything that's being shared.

In regards to your above question how many pages did it take before someone asked me that question?

If you read through the thread I'm sure that you can figure it out.

You see ET_MAN, my point in all of this, is the fact, that what you share really isn`t a secret, or anything special or even new.

Maybe the questions/comments will just come to a stop then?

As I've previously stated, when the questions/comments stop, so does this thread stop.

that is why they need to be taught how to find that within them,

Are you planning on starting a thread?

We`re all time travelers ET_MAN, we exist in the past, present and future, all at the same moment, that part is within us all.

Thanks for the addition!

I didn`t have an ET come to me when I was very young telling me all of this,

Are you suggesting that is how I received this information?

and that is when my first understandings of these things happened.

Would you like to share that story with the rest of us?

Many are here now sharing these things with everyone,

Nice to hear that Fiatlux!

Did you pick up on the main-frame message of this thread?

Are those the things people are sharing with everyone-1?

and they don`t have to draw a crowd to do it.

Was anyone forced to click on this thread?

Have I simply been answering questions or drawing in crowds?

I have faith in the human race to make it through this.

The human race will make it regardless of what the future brings, there is nothing to ever fear, even if it means leaving the temporal vehicle/body/flesh.

Why the lack of faith on ET`s part,

Teachers/Creators/Designers ET's/EU's (Whatever you choose to label/call them) (The One-1's in charge of the coloring book pages) already know what's going to happen.

that they need to send someone like yourself to the past, just to "teach" people?

Did you miss the answers to those questions FiatLux?

Was I sent here by someone or am I here of my own freewill/choice?

Am I being forced to stick around and answer people's questions?

Am I free to leave?

Love & Peace
Respectfully
Best Wishes!

[edit on 30-5-2010 by ET_MAN]

ET_MAN,
1. Is part of the purpose for people of being on Earth is to find their own truth?

2. Is the Sun getting brighter? I really noticed the Sun is very bright these days and I don't ever recall or remember the Sun being that bright.

Thanks.

[edit on 29-5-2010 by sphinx551]

Originally posted by ET_MAN
reply to post by FiatLux

 

Hi FiatLux,

As you may know FiatLux, I've been answering questions from the very beginning and now were at page 184.

I don't have to be here answering people's questions.

Now whether you agree with anything that I share or not that is your own freewill/choice, nobody is forcing you to visit this thread or believe in anything that's being shared.

In regards to your above question how many pages did it take before someone asked me that question?

If you read through the thread I'm sure that you can figure it out.

And how many pages does it take to teach them the main goal without the use of fear? 184? Do you see my point now? Or, must one have to have it spelled out? How many questions are you answering that should be found within themselves, and not from you? How many answers are you having them find themselves, without your spin on them? Are you teaching them how to find those answers, or just doing the job for them?

Maybe the questions/comments will just come to a stop then?

As I've previously stated, when the questions/comments stop, so does this thread stop.

How many of the questions asked are relevant to seeking answers within, to those of things that has nothing to do with it? As for when will the question/comments stop? When you alone want them to.

Are you planning on starting a thread?

Why, aren`t you ever planning on finishing that task? After 184 pages, if it is all about seeking within, all a new person would have to do is read what has already been stated, right? Give or take the odd question here and there.

Thanks for the addition!

A simple addition one would know by going within. Now, how hard is that?

Are you suggesting that is how I received this information?

Is that what you get from that statement? How you come about your information isn`t the point, be it from within, books, dreams or ET himself.

Would you like to share that story with the rest of us?

I will after I am done dictating it to my daughter, so it will be in order from the age of 6 up to 54.

Nice to hear that Fiatlux!

Many don`t go main stream.

Did you pick up on the main-frame message of this thread?

Are those the things people are sharing with everyone-1?

The problem is, to find it, one has to chip away everything else that is thrown in around it that is irrelevant, and then put it back together again to get a message. They keep it basic, like why we need to do it, how it works, how it helps, and how to do it. Once they learn, they can find all the answers they need to know.

Was anyone forced to click on this thread?

Was that question a basic part of the information you learned, a part of the information package?

Have I simply been answering questions or drawing in crowds?

Do you know what a metaphor is?

The human race will make it regardless of what the future brings, there is nothing to ever fear, even if it means leaving the temporal vehicle/body/flesh.

A basic understanding, that is not hard to teach.

Teachers/Creators/Designers ET's/EU's (Whatever you choose to label/call them) (The One-1's in charge of the coloring book pages) already know what's going to happen.

Then, who are these warnings from? The Benevolents, or yourself?

that they need to send someone like yourself to the past, just to "teach" people?

Did you miss the answers to those questions FiatLux?

No, but I believe you missed it. First you say that humanity will make it no matter what the future brings, right? Then you say "they" already know what is going to happen, right? So then, that means they know humanity will make it, right? If that is the case, why the warnings, why not just teach people to go within at this time? When you bring humanity back to being spiritual, it would change things for the better.

Was I sent here by someone or am I here of my own freewill/choice?

Would you like me to be ET_MAN, and answer that question for you? If you want to play a game with me, no problem, I know how that game works.

Am I being forced to stick around and answer people's questions?

*read statement above*

Am I free to leave?

More games? Ok, there`s the door here`s your hat what`s your hurry?



[edit on 30-5-2010 by FiatLux]

reply to post by ET_MAN

What would happen if there was an announcement to the world that everyone's _____ is an inevitability?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that precisely what you’re doing in this thread?

Are such people aware of the inevitability of their own _____ and should such people if they are that sensitive to what they read and hear be listening to the world news, reading the paper and viewing other graphic material going on in the world when it comes to War, Starvation, Abuse and so on?

That is avoiding the question by placing the onus and responsibility on those who are reading your message and expecting them to be able to rationalize the information. Just because they are bombarded with bad news every day doesn’t mean that you can add to it, does it?

What my question meant was: what is the likelihood of the easily swayed and delusional – of whom which we cannot control their access to the media or net – picking on the negativity and imminent threat of death coming to our planet, and allowing it to justify and facilitate destructive, or self-destructive acts?

What really makes a person do what they do?

Is it what they read, hear or see that forces them to do what they do or is there something else going on perhaps WITHIN a person?

Outside influence plays a huge part on how people think, no matter what is inside them. To deny that is to ignore the power of words. And you’re once again putting any potential blame on the individual, not on the effect your message might have on a delicately balanced psyche.

I have to address your constant use of the words fear and death again (even though you started to edit them out); can I suggest that you are assuming that most people have a fear of dying? What makes you think that’s a correct hypothesis?

You might have feared death at some time, but it doesn’t follow that the rest of us do.

Often, it is the manner of dying that instills fear. We hope that, when it comes, it is either under the supervision of professionals, quick and painless, in the presence of of those who love us.

You’re now saying that the world we rely on to deliver those compassionate scenarios is about to be hit with the biggest disaster ever, you back it up with numerous “independent” videos that “support” your prophecies, scientific papers that allude to your prophecies, and constantly say that there’s nothing we can do about it, and, more importantly, that we’re all going to die because of it, some immediately, the rest eventually.

How much fear do you think that message of UFOs and aliens and the end of the world – and that is precisely what it is - is stirring up, despite your encouragement that we shouldn’t be afraid because of it?

Though this is not a comparison to you, I assume that you have heard of Heaven’s Gate?

As to your espousing the importance of love; who can disagree?

However, I don’t want to get into discussing the intricacies of your doctrine. It’s you – the messenger of higher intellects – that is important here.

Have I ever forced any of this information on anyone?

For some, your just putting together these diverse images, concepts, your claims of alien contact and alleged exposure to knowledge that comes from higher intelligence, will not give them a choice but to accept your words as truth. Are you aware of that?

Some people will believe anything as long as it fits an unspoken concept they are trying to form. Do you accept that as a possibility?

Do I have power over what another person chooses to believe?

Yes you do. As I said above, attaching stories of your past “history” – a history that, if it were true, appeals to many – absolutely will persuade some people that you are the real McCoy. Surely you were aware of that when you started this thread?

Have I threatened anyone?

Directly, no. By saying that we are all going to die, then, ultimately, yes, as you have declared a threat to mankind that has as yet, no real evidential support.

Do you feel uncomfortable hearing such words and if you do ask yourself why you feel uncomfortable hearing such ____words?

Nope, doesn’t make me feel uncomfortable at all. I just wondered why you use the same two words relentlessly.

I'm simply sharing information and my perspective on life among other things to further think about.

I thought this thread was based on a warning from the “Benevolents”, not your perspective? Hasn’t your “knowledge” been triggered and supported by “them”, and this mission of yours inspired by your extraordinary experiences?

Sure I will answer and the answer to that question is absolutely nothing will happen and you will go on living your life exactly how you were before you visited this thread.

You misunderstood my question; what happens if a basically decent person lives out the rest of their life in ignorance of the teachings you espose, and is killed, along with the rest of us. Does it not matter that he didn’t hear this message from the “Benevolents” and therefore changed his life, and if so, will his “outcome” be different to those who have taken it onboard?

reply to post by FiatLux

What I will say is, don`t make a habit of following every word of just one person. If it`s information that your seeking, go to the greatest place to find it, within yourselves. THAT should have been the message from the very start. Right?

I agree absolutely.

And I’ll add a caveat, if I may; anyone can believe ET_MAN’s posts if they want to, but there is one incredibly important point that absolutely cannot be forgotten, as it appears to have been: do you believe his story? The time travel, the inter-dimensional ships, the Benevolents?

If there is even the remotest doubt in anyone’s mind about those crucial matters, then the reasoning for him being here must also be questioned.

reply to post by FiatLux

Hi FiatLux,

And how many pages does it take to teach them the main goal without the use of fear? 184? Do you see my point now? Or, must one have to have it spelled out? How many questions are you answering that should be found within themselves, and not from you? How many answers are you having them find themselves, without your spin on them? Are you teaching them how to find those answers, or just doing the job for them?

I'm sure I could find hundreds of other threads that I don't agree with. Do I go after the OP's in those threads telling them they should have done it this way or that and make judgments against them? If you don't agree with the thread simply don't click. By you persistently coming after me it says a lot about yourself Fiatlux.

How many of the questions asked are relevant to seeking answers within, to those of things that has nothing to do with it?

I choose what I want to post and I do it MY WAY. If you don't agree with MY WAY then simply don't click on the thread.

As for when will the question/comments stop? When you alone want them to.

When people ask questions, I usually answer them including some negative questions and commentary. You've made many complaints throughout this thread but I've always responded to your comments and questions haven't I?

Why, aren`t you ever planning on finishing that task? After 184 pages, if it is all about seeking within,

I see that you haven't followed along or truly read the thread Fiatlux if you think that it's all about seeking within.

all a new person would have to do is read what has already been stated, right?

A person will ultimately do what they want to do, not what FiatLux wants them to do and if it wasn't for the hundreds of emails that I've received with thank you's and the ongoing communication of people that are grateful for this thread and the information contained then I may have made a final post and moved onto other things by now. I am here posting because I feel like I'm perhaps doing some people some good, those who are grateful for this information and the thread that is. I post on many online forums and am involved in many different charity organizations to simply HELP people do you understand that part Fiatlux?

I don't go around finding people that I disagree with flooding their threads and making judgments against them, you see that is where you can learn from this thread. It's not your place to come here and tell me what to do or make judgments so perhaps you should read over the thread and learn from it because that is what the message is all about. It's not about the way you are treating me now but about doing good unto others and treating them the way you would want them to treat you.

A simple addition one would know by going within. Now, how hard is that?

What is within you Fiatlux? What makes you come to this thread and come after me in the way that you do? Are there some things perhaps that you need to get sorted out inside of you? Questions you perhaps should be asking yourself...

You've had many questions- www.abovetopsecret.com... I sincerely hope you find the answers to those questions.

How you come about your information isn`t the point, be it from within, books, dreams or ET himself.

If you say so Fiatlux

The problem is, to find it,

As Mr. Poopra put it:

“The debunkers make this thread incredibly tedious to read. You will not convince those who believe and vice versa. Allow ET Man to present his information and stop cluttering the thread. We're near 180 pages now, all of which could probably be condensed into 3."

one has to chip away everything else that is thrown in around it that is irrelevant, and then put it back together again to get a message. They keep it basic, like why we need to do it, how it works, how it helps, and how to do it. Once they learn, they can find all the answers they need to know.

You should start a thread FiatLux, I've done this thread MY WAY and shared more information than meets the eye.

I did it MY WAY
You did it Your way
We all did it Our way

So why don't you go start a new thread and do it Your way?

First you say that humanity will make it no matter what the future brings, right? Then you say "they" already know what is going to happen, right? So then, that means they know humanity will make it, right?

The human body was never the souls to keep but temporarily borrow. Many will leave the flesh, humanity will always remain. There's no such thing as extinction, (technically) that which man believes to be extinct exists somewhere and will always exist. For many of those who leave the flesh it can be looked at as a gift and recess break as things only get better when the school bell rings.

why not just teach people to go within at this time?

I suggest you read the final message on the this site-www.poleshift2011.com...

When you bring humanity back to being spiritual, it would change things for the better.

That is what this thread is all about.

Love & Light
Respectfully
Best Wishes!