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Off-duty officer shoots 2 in lot after Angels game

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posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 04:02 PM
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reply to post by Ben Niceknowinya
 


Calling me a coward is verging on a personal insult.

Yet i'm one of the ONLY people on this thread who isn't hiding behind a gun.

If you wanna resort to insults via u2u then go for it, but i won't be replying because i will say what i want publically and i'm not ashamed what i say, because that's the way it is...

You talk as though i have no experience.

Sorry but you're wrong.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 04:06 PM
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Nutter,

I haven't seen a response. Just wondering what your opinion is to my comment.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 04:10 PM
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Anyone who chooses not to carry a gun(or any weapon) is asking to be robbed or beat in some random act of violence. To give your safety or protection over to a state run agency(cops) is insane.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by KEMIK
Nutter,

I haven't seen a response. Just wondering what your opinion is to my comment.


Which comment would that be?



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by mr-lizard
reply to post by rcwj75
 


Give me a break. If people started carrying guns around to deal with knife crime then we'd have .... *drum roll* Gun crime.

It's like buying a lion to deal with an angry dog.

Oh and what makes you think i have had no life experience?

Does getting battered by seven lads count? What about disarming a man with a knife who tried to attack a woman at a party?
What about having your head smashed against a wall by a man messed up on drugs?
What about defending myself against five lads who tried to rob my shop?

If those guys would have had knives or guns then i'd have been screwed...

But at NO point did i ever want a gun to deal with any of the above situations?

Don't judge me because you have NO idea who i am or what i've been through.

The reason you guys carry guns, is because your criminals carry guns and your cops carry guns.

If you are too stupid to see that, then i'm afraid i can do nothing to alter your silly little perception of the world.

Go grow a pair.



Again. With your grow a pair......r u serious?

What are you some meathead who decides that people need to grow some balls because they are taking part in an educational/enertaining discussion on some message board.?
I mean, who are you?
WoW.
Tell me, how do you get away with being such a bad ass?
I'm impressed.
A blatant fallacy is you attempt to prove someone wrong, but yet decides that yourself, can never be proven wrong.
Regardless of the facts presented.
If people "started" carrying guns?
We've always had "guns" in our culture. Whether you want to fundamentally accept that or not, it's entirely up to you.
We live in America. There's over 300,000,000 guns in America.
And you're dead wrong. We ALREADY have HAD gun crime.
Worst on the planet. It's quite shameful, but it is what it is.
To be quite honest, video cameras constantly watching me 24/7 bothers me more than handguns, as in such countries.
I could care less about your "war" stories and how you're some kind of hero, how you saved people's lives, and beat up five guys @ once.
*drum role* bad ass!
Congratulations. Where can I make a donation to the bad ass guy.
Stop elaborating, and stay on topic.

No one is judging you.

You're also assuming everyone on the other side of this conversation carries a gun.
We don't all carry guns. I don't.
But people do. That's a statistic that's been in our heritage ever since the pilgrims landed on Plymouth.

What is your point exactly in this discussion?





[edit on 25-6-2009 by Ben Niceknowinya]



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by Nutter

Originally posted by Ben Niceknowinya
All I'm saying is look at the facts more carefully before making a decision.
*ahem* and posting.


I could ask you the same. *Ahem*, I guess you missed that even a lawfull gun tottler can't bring their firearm to a baseball game? *Ahem*.


You. Are. Wrong.

a CCW allows you to carry anywhere, UNLESS it's posted specifically.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by Ben Niceknowinya

What are you some meathead who decides that people need to grow some balls because they are taking part in an educational/enertaining discussion on some message board.?


No... I'm a victim of violence who has finally found peace with myself. I am FAR from a meat head. Tall and skinny.



I mean, who are you?


A musician.




WoW.
Tell me, how do you get away with being such a bad ass?

I don't. Because i'm not a 'bad ass'.



I'm impressed.


Why?



I could care less about your "war" stories and how you're some kind of hero, how you saved people's lives, and beat up five guys @ once.
*drum role* bad ass!
Congratulations. Where can I make a donation to the bad ass guy.
Stop elaborating, and stay on topic.


If you wanna send me money, that would be great because i'm skint. I've never been to war though, i have no idea where you got that idea from.





What is your point exactly in this discussion?


Go back a few pages. You'll see my point.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by LordBaskettIV
Anyone who chooses not to carry a gun(or any weapon) is asking to be robbed or beat in some random act of violence. To give your safety or protection over to a state run agency(cops) is insane.


hahahahaha brilliant.

That is very funny, i'm sure you didn't mean to be so funny, but you've just made my night. So by NOT carrying a weapon means i should be beaten up.

Genius....


Spoken like a true gun nut.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 04:43 PM
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i am not writing this out of any unbias feelings towards police officers. my step father and uncle are both policemen.

as a few folk have stated before, even in defense of his family, there is no way this man should have shot these 2 scumbags (as that what they are) IMO the policeman should be appearing before a judge and given jail time!

these people are in charge of our safety and are supposed to be setting an example, not blowing people to pieces. if the policeman was replaced by a regular joe bloggs in this story, he would be charged possibly with 2 cases of attempted murder!

star mr lizard for 2 posts up. ace!!!



what is your country coming to?!



[edit on 25-6-2009 by connelly4245]



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by LordBaskettIV
Anyone who chooses not to carry a gun(or any weapon) is asking to be robbed or beat in some random act of violence. To give your safety or protection over to a state run agency(cops) is insane.


IMO anyone who carries a gun is asking to be shot.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 04:56 PM
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I'm sorry you were a victim of violence. Seriously.
I also grew up in the thick of it. Inner city life.
I won't begin to tell you of some experiences I've had, that was also exposed to me @ a young age.
But that doesn't give you, or me any special privilige does it?

I'm sorry if you thought I was outta line Mr. Lizard.
I do not want the rep. as callnig people cowards.
But I also stand my ground. Just like you.
And quite frankly, telling people to man up and grow some balls, does'nt necessarily sit well on my palate.
As for yours as well, I would imagine.

As for being Skint. I hear ya brutha.


Look, no pun intended man.

Just take it easy on the name calling and insults.

I apologize on my behalf. But I'm scrapper @ heart.....just like you.

Peace.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by mr-lizard

Oh and what makes you think i have had no life experience?


Your reactions and just read what you write. Tells me alot!





Don't judge me because you have NO idea who i am or what i've been through.



Interesting....might wanna follow your own advice before posting...cause reading everything you have written...tells me your a hypocrite



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 04:58 PM
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Please elaborate becase up to now you're making little sense.

So by NOT having a gun equates to a lack of life experience? Are you suggesting i go and shoot someone and then report back to you?

As i say elaborate.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 04:59 PM
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Anyone who doesn't carry a gun has less options and a greater chance of never going home alive..... Liberty is being able to have choices.
Tyranny is hoping the choices of others will not effect you.

[edit on 25-6-2009 by jeffsmathers]

[edit on 25-6-2009 by jeffsmathers]



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 05:00 PM
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Peace to you aswell then, i accept your apology and whole heartedly offer you an apology.

Forgive me for being hot-headed, it's one of my faults. I respect you for that and although we may not agree with on these opinions, we can at least remain civil.

Peace to you.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 05:05 PM
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you have the choice to cross the road now, or wait till you get to the traffic lights. you make the choice of crossing it now and BAM...hit with a bus.

if someones going to mug me and kill me tomorrow, its my time. when your times up, your times up im afraid.

the threads about a news story, not about the right to own guns. should never be legal in the first place.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 05:10 PM
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And you want no choice in being able to protect your family? .... It must be their time to 'go' with you?

We have the freedom to choose life or death many times a day ... So your saying it's not your right to prevent someone making that decision for you?



[edit on 25-6-2009 by jeffsmathers]



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by jeffsmathers
And you want no choice in being able to protect your family? .... It must be their time to 'go' with you?

We have the freedom to choose life or death many times a day ... So your saying it's not your right to prevent someone making that decision for you?



[edit on 25-6-2009 by jeffsmathers]



if it comes to protecting me or my family, ill do it the good old fashioned way...with my fists, weapons are for fairies! lol

why you think the murder rate in the UK is so low? any type of weapon is illegal, illegal possession of a knife can get on average 3 years in jail!

[edit on 25-6-2009 by connelly4245]



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 05:21 PM
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All good.



Sorry for the one liner mods.



posted on Jun, 25 2009 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by MajesticJax
You. Are. Wrong.


Am I?


a CCW allows you to carry anywhere, UNLESS it's posted specifically.


Does it allow you to carry a firearm into said stadium? It's specifically posted you know.


• No weapons are allowed inside Angel Stadium of Anaheim.


losangeles.angels.mlb.com...



[edit on 25-6-2009 by Nutter]



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