Detoxification, Amazing Results

Congratulations on your amazing health transformation. Good for you!

Along those lines I'd also like to share a story of healing by balancing the body and cleansing the toxins. This is very recent news (past 2 weeks).

My good friend who was diagnosed 3 years ago with Hepatitis C got tested and has no sign of the disease at all.

She had been dating some younger guy (she's 73 now and looks maybe 50) and the lout had neglected to tell her he had Hep C. He was being treated for it so he definitely knew. Anyway she got it from him and when he died is when she found out she'd been exposed. She was hysterical. I had the unpleasant task of telling her she'd probably die of old age before the Hep C got her but, as you can imagine, that was small comfort. Her liver enzymes were critical but she adamantly refused to go to the hospital (we've been friends for a long time and she's heard all my stories).

Anyway, I did some research for her and found something that was touted as a cure (not just a treatment) for Hepatitis (all kinds). I told her she had nothing to lose and her liver enzymes were so high that she was in danger of having her liver shut down entirely. She's readily agreed to try it and went on the simple program. She didn't even quit drinking which I told her she needed to do. The doctor was insulted that she had refused his tender mercies at a hospital and didn't schedule her for another test until the following year.

The next year her liver enzymes were down considerably but she still tested positive for Hep C. She continued her maintenance program and was scheduled to be tested the following year. She called today to tell me that her liver enzymes are perfectly normal and she is testing negative for Hep C.

Her doctor is befuddled since it's impossible to test negative once you've tested positive. He ran the tests again. Again they were negative. He told her that the original testing must have been in error and he's ordering her original records and making a trip out to the clinic to see how their lab testing equipment is running. HAHAHAHA.

I told her to let him investigate all he likes and when all is confirmed, she will have documentation that the cure is a valid one. It obviously took a while for the cure to be 100% effective but it did work so I thought I'd post it here for anyone who may have use for the information.

Alphalipoic Acid 300 mg. Take 4 tid (three times a day)
Selenium 200 mcg. daily
Milk Thistle 600 mg. Take 2 bid (twice a day)
After 2-4 weeks decrease the milk thistle to 300 mg and take 2 tid.
After 2-4 more weeks decrease the milk thistle to 200 mg and take 2 tid.

My friend did the full 4 weeks but said she was "sick" by the end of the month and felt like she had "flu". (I told her she needed to quit drinking). I offered the same treatment to my son-in-laws mother who also has Hep C but she refused it. She's now on a liver transplant list and has been bumped off of it twice. She is literally skin and bones with not an visible ounce of muscle on her. She just got out of the hospital about 2 weeks ago and is still refusing my "voodoo".

If you or someone you know has hepatitis, be sure to pass this info along.

Truly inspiring.

It just goes to show that controlling your stomach, your various mental and carnal appetites, is a crucial first step in controlling your life.

Very cool indeed!

Perhaps this is a mass awakening because I can attest to the positive effects of eliminating toxins from your everyday habits and intake.

I used to consume a lot of fast food (McDonalds, Wendys, Checkers, Burger King) and binge drink "soft" drinks (Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, etc.) and constantly found myself sick, apathetic, tired, and headaches everyday.

Recently, I've began to work out again.. 3 times a week for about an hour a day doing various anaerobic and aerobic exercises, and walk my dog everyday for about 30 mins a day. I've also stopped eating all fast food, and frozen foods, or just about anything with synthetic ingredients in it.

My health has improved dramatically. I no longer have headaches, I have increased my energy, and can think more clearly.

The next thing on my list is to cut down the amount of T.V. I watch, and to purchase water filters for my faucet, and shower head, and purchase different hygenical products that do not contain aluminum, and sodium laureth sulfate, and begin meditation, and yoga.

Very nice and refreshing post to see. I hope more people can use this as a catalyst to improve their lifestyles.

We're only given one body, let's take best care of it!

Love & Light to all.

Namaste.

reply to post by mmiichael


It is a tragedy of the modern world... that people poses singular alternative therapies as cures for anything

i.e. Take echinacea to prevent colds...

wont do much if you don't wash your hands...

I'm not sure how these studies can prove anything when... lifestyle and other habits are not factored in, the sheer number of chemical factors given diet and lifestyle and other factors is unreal... interactions with other substances etc, etc...

pro or negative I find most studies to be very difficult to prove anything at all

what I did, was an entire lifestyle change

and no, there were few singular cures by themselves that I relied on for a bit of it...

I don't think any medicine or herb or supplement can truely do it's job if your lifestyle doesn't reflect limitations and you don't allow your body to do it's work

reply to post by die_another_day


I have read allot about farming techniques and what may b happening to our food as a result of how we deal with our soil... it would be hard for me to explain myself as I am no expert...

But I highly recommend doing some reading on the subject to others... there is a reason I am excited that a small greenhouse is in my very near future

reply to post by mopusvindictus


An amazing post! One of the most informative and inspiring I have read on ATS.

mopusvindictus - I relate so much to what you say. I am where you were perhaps a year ago.

To read your amazing post was serendipitous indeed!

Thank you

PS. S&F of course

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984


okay... I get what your actually saying and you would be by and large right actually...

I don't agree with any fad detox...

if you read through, you would see I mostly used only my own body to do so...

a pity how a word comes to be associated with bad trendy practices...

but you would be correct,

when I say detox, I mean allowing your body to work mainly...

I do fast from time to time, but it's to clean my blood, my intestines of goop and... I did it right, built up slowly to the ability to do so...

I'm talking about eliminating overload... allowing your body to do the work...

like I said...

main things

Pranayama... breathing, helping the body to clear poison

Dry Sauna... shifting the burden from my liver, opening up the largest organ in my body instead of clogging it...

That is detoxification, your just taking offense to the word but on the same page...

it seems

the alternative health crowd likes to Apply a word that means something to techniques they wish to sell very opften and... I can't help it, I just don't know what other word to use as it would, naturally be the appropriate word...

but you are correct

I wouldn't wish to steer anyone into any marketed programs or drinks to "detox"

it could actually be very unhealthy if the appropriate lifestyle changes were not made in accordance

and there is...

no singular book or program to teach how to do that

reply to post by open_eyeballs


You mention Jail

Yes...

shortly after I was diagnosed and a few months before finding ats

as I made my first post divorce step to a better part of town, to start a process of cleaning myself up I had a very rude awakening that helped push myself along

as I arrived in a car with some old (friends...cough) a block from where I would live for a few months we were pulled over

by a very specialized narcotics team

3 of the 4 of us went to Jail

I had to make a decision... to avoid that and it was to tell the police the details of why I was with them and why I had come to that part of town...

needless to say, going back to the part of town I was in... was not an option after that

which of course made quitting what i was doing a whole heck of allot easier

I came... very close, very close indeed...

don't ever let anyone tell you the cops are always bad guys... they asked only for the truth, I was not called down, not asked to testify or anything. They listened to me as to what i was doing and let me go...

reply to post by mopusvindictus


Good post and congratulations. Although the majority of people will not do this because the lifestyle change is just way too drastic. I mean how many people do you think are going to eat what you said you do on a near daily bases? How many people are going to fast anywhere from 12-48 hours? A lot of people don't have the time, will, or energy to do it. I am glad for you and wish everyone could do what you have but that just is not going to happen anytime soon IMHO. I am 23 and I am pretty sure I need more calories than what you are ingesting on a daily bases, so until technology can catch up with what obviously is a legitimate way to strengthen your body and make it more pleasurable or easier this is not going to happen on a large scale. It kinda takes the fun out of life somewhat IMO, again I want to congratulate and thank you for posting this lucid and very informative thread, but IMO people are not ready to make all the sacrifices you have, at least under the current ideology of detoxification. Again, great post.

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reply to post by Barla Von


Fixing the curvature of my spine...

I'd say... the majority was warped musculature, bad posture and just such a toxic system and the parkinsons of course...

Stretching, I didn't use a chiropractor...

I use the giant exercise ball at the gym and do back bends over it to separate my vertebrae... I also do allot of pull ups on the machine as I started on which allows you to stand on a bar that is weighted, because lol I couldn't do a pull up...

and I believe the pranayama helped allot to relax my muscles... most of a curvature I think comes down to muscles compensating for bad positioning or just torn or twitched out...

I never go to the gym and don't spend at least 30 minutes, sometimes an hr or more stretching every single muscle now...

a chiropractor can help straighten the spine, but I think it's useless if the same muscles are pulling it back in the same direction it was curving in a half hr later

I also was conscious of working opposite muscles...

i.e... my spine was curving lightly to the right, so when working out I over worked my left side and under work my right side

Originally posted by badBERTHA

As a family we have increased our fruit, vegetable & fish intake but we are still guilty of too much white pasta, white bread and potatoes.

There's nothing wrong with pasta and potatoes..expecially potatoes..

your post is so true.

A few years a go i used to be a real fat ass. I used to get headaches every day and i was pretty depressed. But then i decided to eat proper things and go swimming as many times as i could. Now 2 years later i have lost like 3 stone, i hardly ever get headaches and i am no longer very depressed.

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
okay... I get what your actually saying and you would be by and large right actually...

I don't agree with any fad detox...

if you read through, you would see I mostly used only my own body to do so...

a pity how a word comes to be associated with bad trendy practices...

but you would be correct,

when I say detox, I mean allowing your body to work mainly...

Well then detox shouldn't be the word used. Instead maybe saying "junk" would be better. Cutting out the junk from your diet has done amazing things and that i will completely and utterly agree with. If only half he people in the western world did this then we would see a massive drop in cancers, neurological disorders, stroke, heart disease, diabetes blah blah the list is endless.

I just get annoyed when i hear the word detox because there is no way to flush your body of toxins more quickly or completely. You jus have o let your body do the work itself without introducing new toxins. By toxins of course i mean the real thing not some new age nonsense. PCB's, large amounts of alcohol, hydrogenated fats and all this other rubbish that they inject into convenience food.

Btw glad you realised i wasn't having a go at you. Your transformation is brilliant. There are few people who can do this in one big go. I know you had stages but each stage seems to have been a dramatic shift and not just little steps. That is very hard to do.

I do fast from time to time, but it's to clean my blood, my intestines of goop and... I did it right, built up slowly to the ability to do so...

I'm talking about eliminating overload... allowing your body to do the work...

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
Dry Sauna... shifting the burden from my liver, opening up the largest organ in my body instead of clogging it...

In fairness the skin does a good job of clearing toxins on it's own. Pores being slightly full of sebum isn't a bad thing. However as i stated earlier i also noticed a real improvement in my skin when i started using saunas.

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
That is detoxification, your just taking offense to the word but on the same page...

it seems

the alternative health crowd likes to Apply a word that means something to techniques they wish to sell very opften and... I can't help it, I just don't know what other word to use as it would, naturally be the appropriate word...

but you are correct

Simply saying you removed the junk from your life is good enough. You cut out all the junk diet stuff and equally importantly you introduced exercise. People often only do one or the other which is a big mistake. So kudos to you.

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
I wouldn't wish to steer anyone into any marketed programs or drinks to "detox"

it could actually be very unhealthy if the appropriate lifestyle changes were not made in accordance

and there is...

no singular book or program to teach how to do that

This is what i was getting at. Already i could see some people reaching for the detox plans. Drinking nothing but orange juice for a week or other more dangerous programs. The body wi clear toxins on it's own, at it's own pace. The best you can do is eat well and exercise. This will allow the body to get rid of what it doesn't need.

Oh and a final point. Many bad chemicals are fat soluble. So by losing a ton of weight you do theoretically reduce the amount of stored damaging chemicals whilst also reducing the amount of space new chemicals have to hang around. Losing as much body fat as you did is an utterly brilliant achievement. I can't imagine how much lighter on your feet you must feel.

reply to post by Barla Von


and yeah... in addition to making stretching MORE important than weight training and compensating for your weaker side...

also don't use heavy weight

it's for bulk, it's going to exacerbate the issue

you want to pick up a good book of anatomy... and look for all the small neglected muscles and do very isolating exercise on your week spots...


I had very powerful quads and very weak hamstrings, I had a tendency to work out for the mirror when I was younger, i.e. The front of me was developed and the back of me wasn't

but i'm sure it was that my quads in general were very powerful particularly my front right and the muscle (forget the name) that wraps around to my lower back was pulling way harder than the one on the opposite side...

of course, your issue would be different, but if you pick up a good book of anatomy and pinpoint the spot of tension on your spine where the curve is forming it should be pretty easy to figure out which opposing muscle need to be built up

I once in college tried 30 days without food out of the blue. I had read that Buddha went something like 45 day without anything but water and one bean per day, until he reached enlightenment. So i gave it a go an stopped after 25 day, i ate nothing and only drank water ( around 2 liters a day ). I must say its similar to a crash course in detox.

Anyway, the spiritual implications are huge for doing something like this, on my second night into this regiment i had intense visualizations which only go stronger from there on.

Its not easy to keep up, i myself was only able to keep it up for 25 days, 20 shy of what its said the Buddha did. But if your serious i recommend trying it.

reply to post by adrenochrome


hey adreno... always supportive ty

I don't have a specific diet honestly

Meat... I keep it low, what i do eat, Turkey over chicken when possible

I avoid cow now in place of buffalo which is just, better red meat.. and what meat I do eat, I have kosher delivered from online sources

The meat is cut free of all the glands, bleed dry and doesn't contain all the awful hormones the cow produces knowing it's going to die...

I watch Packaging almost as much or more than the food itself...

I don't like anything that comes in plastics, glass anytime I can, organic whenever possible, anything in aluminum I try to avoid

I WASH everything... for pesticide removal

But I have to say... I am far more concerned with what gets INTO my food than the food itself...

I avoid Pork... 99% of the year...

I try not to eat meat for several days after a helping because red meat takes that long to digest

most of all... and Kosher isn't a religious thing

I have seen how cows are raised...

I NEVER eat cheep or processed meats

it's frightening... I have passed a bar S plant in Texas, it was a concentration camp for cows... huddled together, standing in poop, you could smell it miles down the road, it was horrible

I believe Alzheimer's is a product of prions, not necessarily mad cow, but many other kinds and it's a result of how we raise cattle

so I never eat a hot dig from circle k

or any other cheep meats

"since I am no longer growing, why is it I have to eat?"

The only answer I came up with was, aside from a small amount of fuel... you really don't need nearly the amount of food we consume...

wow, this is my theory too

I admire your courage to write this all, and I admire your strength to stop the bad habits.

maybe I will have to do this too in the future, I was homeless 8 years ago and worked my way back into society.

I am now supervisor for a big company.

stopped with cable 2 years ago and I recognize a lot in your story.

Thanks.

reply to post by dirtusbagious


Odwalla is just a damn good clean juice... you can get it in most supermarkets nowadays, i'm sure if you look it up online you can get a store location near you, it's not magic, just a good juice... about 8.99 for a quart, not cheep, but a glass is basically a good meal of organic fruit

Liquid Resveratrol, I use a company called Life time and they are online to order, although my local health food store carries it...

I try and use liquid vitamins whenever possible, reasons of absorption and needless fillers they use to make the pills

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst

 

You are right. People like the OP, and you, and I, and other posters with life experience could create a utopian neighborhood. I am currently adding on to my parent's house and moving my family in with them. My dad had triple bypass surgery and he needs a little more help than he used to. They have a large house with a pool, and an acre or so of land. We all save money, we all benefit.

...

-- not to take this into left field or anything, but...

This is what i grew up with -- in New York of all places. Now, I'm in Georgia, everything is focused on the Church and bake sales.

It's external, it's about controlling what people think, how they act, and it replaces our own internal strength with "something out there." Philosophically, there are good and bad things with all religions -- but it is the practice of how we do in in the USA amongst us Caucasians that I won't subject my kids to. These guys voted for George Bush twice. And his ignorance probably got him more votes in Georgia than if he had been well spoken. This might be a superficial thing -- because most people don't take politics seriously. But when I go to the barbecue -- they introduce me as "that Liberal." I wasn't that up front with it, it kind of slipped out one time when I was correcting some nonsense about Reagan's economic record. It really couldn't be helped.

I grew up a Unitarian, but had to suffer with an Episcopal and then years at a Baptist Church--it's all bout guilt, and the collection plate, avoiding Hell and a fixation on "blood". I've seen the inside of Latin Catholics and the churches of black folk -- and it's all about love. Consequently, I don't trust people who won't cuss.

>> Anyone leaving out nature, making love, and sharing (without being FORCED to give up control as in Communism) is really not someone who is going to be giving me any wisdom.

You can't have a full life without leaving anything out. You are going to get weird, and cling to something to fill the void if you do.

>> The Catholic Church, by the way, added abstinence and required their priests to be unmarried in the 13th century. Why? Cost savings. A married priest who died would leave behind a wife and kids for the church to support. It didn't matter that someone who leaves out a big portion of intimacy is going to go crazy, or at least, have no real insight to give to people who do have relationships. Nope, it was about the money.

All of our commercials inform us that we NEED something to be happy. That something requires more money and that money requires more work.


>> You know what I need? Beautiful women in bathing suits hitting a ball back and forth. My kids eating food out of a garden and being educated by a good neighbor. A community with no fences.

>> I eventually want to move my wife's parents into an adjacent home or the basement. Why am I knocking myself out for day care?


Your point about bringing the family and community back into our lives -- it's what I want. But I certainly don't want the bible thumpers, the haters, the people who are afraid to come in with them.

In my quest to have a lawn -- I've noticed that my neighbors now say "hello." It's disconcerting -- because before, I was working two jobs (and more) and that's why the lawn went wild. I spent a fortune taking down trees and lost money by not doing more work, but I wanted a house my kids could play at and my neighbors didn't accelerate past. However, it's left me in a worse financial situation, even if it did return some sanity to my life.

Unless I become an Executive and some hive-like corporation -- or a super programmer -- and I think this goes for all of us, I'm not going to have the lifestyle and the neighborhood relationships I want unless I depend on other people to fill in the gaps. Neither are they.

If we all want our own pool, it's a financial burden and a burden on the planet.

The trade-off again, is that we have to know how to actually share, we need to be tolerant, and in some regard, I have a hard time with that with people who call themselves social conservatives. They seem to WANT what I want, however.

reply to post by adrenochrome


Not much... I offered to list my technique in here and I will when I get the chance...

lots of posts to respond to shwooooooooo

But when I do it, it tends to knock me out for half a day...or more