Detoxification, Amazing Results

Thanks for the powerful contribution on self-reliant regeneration as opposed to the pill-popping-methods of our "modern" society.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Thanks for the powerful contribution on self-reliant regeneration as opposed to the pill-popping-methods of our "modern" society.

From someone who was near death at 25 with Hepatitis and complications picked up while living in South America, the good news is the liver is the one organ that regenerate lost tissue.

Many pharmaceuticals put undue strain on the liver, and their avoidance is recommended. A good MD will balance symptom relief with medications and allowing the body to do it's own healing.

There are good doctors, but not enough.

Mike

Mopusvindictus,

I been kinda on a cleansing cycle myself with small amounts of meditation. How did you feel your concentration levels are. I have noticed since i have done my best to control as many toxins as i can entering my body, i can sit and do things a lot easier without getting distracted. I did not go as intense as you but trying to get there. My decision making was another big one for me. I will have my days of moodiness i guess but drinking(+ all the other things that go along with partyen ) for 15years will probably take awhile. I have only been on this new program for month and wow, enough motivation for me to keep on this path.



Thanks for sharing!


Kurupt



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Has anyone read the book Spiritual Nutrition by Gabriel Cousens? Its pretty much the most in depth look at this type of diet that I have read and explains the ideas behind the subtle energy forces and its relation to food.

Has anyone read the book Spiritual Nutrition by Gabriel Cousens? Its pretty much the most in depth look at this type of diet that I have read and explains the ideas behind the subtle energy forces and its relation to food.

Fantastic thread!

I discovered 'self healing' about 3 years ago.

I am nearly 50 years old, have not one grey hair, all the health problems I had in the past have GONE and I look like I might be 30 -35 years old at the most.

The secret?

First.....You decide that you will not be sick!

By the way, this does not stop you getting the occassional cold or mild flu, I have had a mild flu once in the last two years but nothing else.

Second, you STOP going to the doctor!

The doctor will make you sick and going to the doctor indicates in your mind that you need someone else to make you better....and you DO NOT!

I used to have a heart problem, kidney problem, bowel problem, joint problem.....now I have NO HEALTH problem.

I don't drink alcohol....but I never have and I have a normal healthy diet and like to include vitamin B17 foods in my diet, but other than that I don't do faddy diets just a healthy diet.


I took total control of my life and do nothing that I do not choose to do and I feel and look Fantastic!

I hope this is encouragement for others who are suffering ill health.

You do not have to be sick!

Take control!

Take control and Mean it!!

reply to post by getreadyalready


If you have the "detox headaches" really try some of that liquid chlorophyll.

There are numerous reasons for headaches, but when you are losing weight your fat cells release a lot of the toxins that they store (they aren't just for calories, you know).

There is also bacteria and yeast that dies when you get healthier.

That's why high fiber, colonics, and anything that assists the kidneys is a good idea.

If anyone knows how to get rid of the "coffee withdrawal headache" -- I'm all ears. I figure it has to do with the relaxing of constricted blood vessels that you get used to. So aspirin isn't going to help -- it might actually make it worse.

Perhaps something like Ginger and Wheat Grass with lemon might work. Something that effects blood flow.

>> Any ideas?

reply to post by VitriolAndAngst


Thanks, I will try the chlorophyll. I will get some this evening. As for the caffeine or 'coffee' headaches. They subside after a day or two. Excedrin will help, because it contains caffeine, but it extends the withdrawal period.

You are kind of correct in the cause, the headache is actually a "constriction" of blood vessels that are normally dialated by the caffeine. As listed before, Cayenne or other peppers can help to open up those constrictions, NO2 as found in Viagra and some body-building supplements can do the same thing also, but if you are detoxing, you probably don't want to add different chemicals to your body.

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
reply to post by heineken

 

for me, I had become skinny fat

if that's the case change NOW

by skinny fat I mean, I was thin but it was all around my waist (less attractive than actually being fat if that is your nature)

Wow, what you said about being "skinny fat" really hit me. That is what I have become in the past year. Skinny fat. People either laugh or sneer at me when I complain about the weight I put on in the last year.

I've gained 15 lbs. I am now 125 at 5'8". I was 110. I am 28 years old. I know this may sound like I have a disorder, but I most certainly do not. My entire life I have been little miss skinny minny. I could barely ever meet a new person or see someone after a long time without them commenting on how skinny I was. My dad would always say "We're going to stop and get you a double cheeseburger" on the way from the airport to his house when I would go visit him.

Now, when I say something about the weight I put on they say, "Yeah, but you look much better." I fully agree that I do look better but what bothers me is that it seems 90% of the weight I did gain is all around the middle. I weigh 125 lbs at 5'8" and I suddenly have cottage cheese thighs like you wouldn't believe and a pooch that hangs over my pant waist. My body has changed drastically.

I guess I"m trying to say that I know the weight I put on isn't good weight. I might try making some of the changes you suggest.

It's probably best to start small I would imagine. I'm not a huge fan of red meat, I mostly eat burgers. I'll try switching to bison burger, they are pretty good anyway.

I usually don't eat much for breakfast. At work I'll eat either a whole wheat (no high fructose corn syrup, transfat) english muffin w/ some skippy's natural peanut butter (no hydrogenated oils, transfats) or a banana (not usually organic but sometimes) with the same peanut butter. I only have one cup of coffee but I always make sure to drink a glass of water while the pot is brewing.

Lunch is usally pretty questionable. I don't eat good lunches. Maybe that's a big part of the problem since I heard that the most important meal is lunch contrary to what people say about breakfast. I bet I hold onto most of the crap I put into my body during the middle of the day.

Dinners are back and forth. My boyfriend and I are victims of having mostly nothing but meat (usually cheap chicken that comes in a giant bag), some kind of starchy boxed side, and canned veggies (which I know are horrible). And most of the time I can't help but stuff something in my mouth about an hour or an half an hour before bed. Some little snack like a piece of brownie, chips (usually baked though), or if I'm really good some carrots and humus (which is super yummy).

I stopped going to the gym. I had commitment issues with that. I try to meditate but usually feel silly doing it, or I fall asleep.

A tiny bit of advice to get started would be awesome (from anyone)! Thanks for your candidness, OP! It's greatly appreciated.

Hmm im only 17, but that sounds like a great idea i think i'll try that out

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst

 

And of course, I'll set up a sand volleyball net at my house, because my wife is a great player, and twice a year, the pro beach players will come and hang out. I already have the contacts for that.

That is all you had to say!

I'm in! I used to be a contractor, so I will help build the place for you! I would love to design and develop a totally off-grid green community!

Maybe we need to start a thread or something. This is kind of off topic -- but it really isn't.

I do multimedia and keep my wife happy. My wife is an expert in making friends, is a beautiful Peruvian lady, and seems to make people lower their boundaries.

I was seriously talking with my mother (well, I'm over 40, so this was an adult, we have our own homes discussion) before the elections last year, about finding a place to go live. Because I was convinced (and am still worried) that our culture is sick in the head, and trying to be a better person is an uphill climb.

We found this hotel for about $200,000 near the coast in another country -- Bangalor or something.

I started dreaming of getting Doctor's and Lawyers and of course -- people who can actually DO SOMETHING with their hands to pony up a little cash and we'd all fly down and make the hotel self-sufficient.

But that could be done here.

What would make "living right" easier, is to get everyone with the skills you lack together, but the same mindset of "let's make life a party without the hangover" and we can get rid of the headaches of having to buy and maintain everything.

When I grew up in Scarsdale New York -- I went to my neighbors house to see a doctor. My dad took apples from someone's house and made cider in our Sauna (which he built). One neighbor had a pool and all the kids in the neighborhood used it.

I'm not talking about a true Commune -- but about people who don't all have to buy their own lawn mower. We are all going broke with self-sufficiency, and wearing ourselves out by trying to do everything. The only hard part, is that sharing things leads to someone returning tools, or another person feeling taken advantage of. So we'd probably have to VALUE certain skills and tools, and make everyone put in a certain VALUE and not let someone do too much -- whether they want to or not.

But I think I'm seriously out of practice, with being a good neighbor.

I've found that I love buying tools -- but I'm not very good at practical projects. However, I am good at water gardens.

>> We also need to all be planting more fruit trees and herbs in our gardens.

>> I also think, that there needs to be a way to add Mixed drinks into any healthy diet. Perhaps an organic rum? Sure, the sugar and alcohol make the Yeast cells grow out of check -- but when you add the mint and lime in the Mojito -- you've built a drink that is part poison and part cure. We have to look at legal ways, we can alter our minds -- because I think modern, uptight society, has forgotten how to have a good time and that we need to change the state of our minds on a regular basis.

Though I've never done an illegal drug in my life -- I often wonder; why else do we have Opiate and THC receptors in our brains? I mean, if humans have NOT been messing with crazy plants for millions of years -- how big of a coincidence is THAT? Alcohol is a relative newcomer -- but we can all thank or blame beer making for starting civilization. That was why Egyptians got together to grow wheat and hops in the first place. Add in some twigs and clay to write Cuneiform, and the rest was history.

reply to post by VitriolAndAngst


You are right. People like the OP, and you, and I, and other posters with life experience could create a utopian neighborhood. I am currently adding on to my parent's house and moving my family in with them. My dad had triple bypass surgery and he needs a little more help than he used to. They have a large house with a pool, and an acre or so of land. We all save money, we all benefit.

Currently the neighborhood kids use his pools sometimes. He mows most of his neighbor's yards, because he enjoys it. There is a small pond behind his house, and one neighbor brought a little rowboat for everyone to use. Several people have gardens, and they share the fruits when they get too much to eat.

He already has a good well, and I will be adding solar panels to take us completely off-grid.

A lot of good could come from a community of people like us sharing our experiences, and our skills, and looking out for one another. It sounds hippyish, but it is really good common sense.

The OP could help everyone eat right and learn to meditate, everyone would be healthier, and have more free time, and more money!

Originally posted by nunya13

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
reply to post by heineken

 

for me, I had become skinny fat

if that's the case change NOW

by skinny fat I mean, I was thin but it was all around my waist (less attractive than actually being fat if that is your nature)

Wow, what you said about being "skinny fat" really hit me. That is what I have become in the past year. Skinny fat. People either laugh or sneer at me when I complain about the weight I put on in the last year.

I've gained 15 lbs. I am now 125 at 5'8". I was 110. I am 28 years old. I know this may sound like I have a disorder, but I most certainly do not. My entire life I have been little miss skinny minny. I could barely ever meet a new person or see someone after a long time without them commenting on how skinny I was. My dad would always say "We're going to stop and get you a double cheeseburger" on the way from the airport to his house when I would go visit him.

...

>> Try adding more HEALTHY FAT to your diet. Your body is trying to store something it needs and not finding it.

Also, look out for a lot of sources in our food supply of Estrogen. Plastic Bottled water (or anything) when heated is releasing a synthetic derivative that looks to the body like Estrogen.

The biggest culprit of bad health I think is Wheat and Corn Syrup. Because they are ruthless and greedy, the Corn Syrup we get has lots of mercury, and the industrial processing is cheaper. The subsidies and the pennies saved means this crap is in everything.

Most of our extra calories are in juices and soft drinks for most people. The quick and easiest way to cut out extra calories is to think of water as what you drink and juice as what you get from chewing a fruit.

Any plant fiber that gets processed and ground up, becomes a carb more or less.

>> So; run from the Corn Syrup, and eat MORE good fat. Use butter as your only dairy. Get some fish oil, flax seed oil, coconut oil or the like.

>> Find someone who seems to be smart at a health food store, and try something new (but be ready to stop if you don't get results). See if you aren't getting higher concentrations of estrogen than you might think -- this has nothing to do with aggressiveness and liking girls. It's going to effect your ability to remove toxins, stay energetic, and not bloat.

That fat around the middle might not have much to do with too much carbs -- but I'm not an expert.

Mopusvindictus,

I would like to learn more about what things you eat, drink that you might consider detoxifiers. If you could. plz add to the list any other things you recommend. I just about live on cheese and milk but I dont consider these to be particularly healthy.

Thanks for the input and the nice thread.

-map

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
A long time ago a good fiend in the medical profession said to me...

There is only one thing you need to know of Disease and it is the very name

Dis Ease

Eliminate that and you will never need a doctor again

Somewhere in all of this those words stuck, when diagnosed... I opted off of treatment, including insulin for which the doctor said i was risking death...

But that simple statement had stuck with me all those years and I opted for a different path...

It seems to me, as if much of disease actually does not exist

I'm not referring to colds or flus or broken arms for which, there are real causes

But the supposedly in curable aliments

I think perhaps the reason there is no cure for parkinsons, or heart disease or arthritis or other diseases is genuinely because they are indeed self or environmentally inflicted

I was... on my way to a death bed, but yet no know bacteria or virus or even genetic condition has actually been found to explain all of the cases of these sorts of ailments


yes, as you say our body is a vessel

but I would offer, none of what I did is anything new, the practices are in fact very old, simply ignored

What if some of them don't actually exist at all and are only created by that individual and their lifestyle habits and once they change them and don't worry about the disease it simply dissapears because it can't exist if you make it not exist in your mind?

You pretty much dis-proved some of modern science and medicine while doing this, and it has worked so that means it can work for everyone.

And no the OP is not the first to tell us this stuff works, others have for generations been telling us this so it must be true.


Anyways good post very informative and congrats for your life getting turned around.


I was wondering though.....Can this help with physical ailments like for instance I have a bad knee that needs surgery . How do I know this....I had surgery on my other knee when I was 16 ( now 24 ) and after stopping sports after highschool my knee stiffened up and my left knee would support it but something happened and now my left knee is the screwed up one..

anyways can detoxifying possibly help build up more stem cells in my knee and could it help to repair itself or is this wishful thinking?

Great post S&F for you

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984


Rofl, Detox is rubbish

So I suppose you think the Liver by itself and with no help can eliminate unlimited amounts of waste?

I guess this means you can drink 4 beers and not blow over a .08 within an hr?

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984


As for a mis diagnosis on the parkinsons...

I'm sure they must have screwed up the Pet scan

it's just the sort of simple thing a doctor can slip and screw up

reply to post by JacobNH


I switch to Cigars, not cigarettes... The chemicals in packed cigarettes are way to much for me, 1 a week is not a given sometimes none ocassionally2, it depends. But I do allow myself a tiny bit of tobacco once in awhile.

I actually think like many things a lil bit can be kind of good for you, almost medicinal perhaps.

Nothing was harder than cigarettes btw... NOTHING even came close to being as hard as cigarettes

I would start to hallucinate after about 12 hrs without any, it took, many, many attempts for me...

and pssst

most Cigar shops have a few Cubans around if you offer them a few bucks

reply to post by spuddyboy


You know... how have I been gaining muscle?

That's a very good question... right up there with the docs question, how am I producing Dopamine and insulin?

In terms of muscle gain, every single thing I was taught and I worked as a personal trainer going back 18 years... everything I was taught was to buy massive amounts of protein and amino acids...

I eat very little red meat, I do sometimes supplement creatine but only about once a week on average

I don't take any supplement daily aside from resveritrol

I am by way of thinking that... like many things modern theory is wrong, you Can FORCE additional growth from a muscle by overloading with proteins, but it's probably abnormal growth

I've been working out allot all year, the size increase is by no means as much as it would be if I was consuming proteins

I would offer... SIZE (in this case lol) doesn't matter

That all that protein is doing is warping these guys to be... way too big

As an example I believe Bruce lee Comfortably could throw up 300 lbs + on a bench...

Not a very big fellow, but extremely strong... liked his RICE

I like the way my routine is going, I like that swimmer or gymnasts body (still have work to do)

By no means, do I have nearly the bulk I would have for the amount of effort I put in compared to other guys...

but without being vain, I think I am developing the nicer physique this way slowly but surely...

reply to post by wayno


100% true...

Believe it or not...

after diagnosis in my final days of getting high or lol ... LOW as I like to call it now

Knowing that I was completely killing myself ( and I was ) and that my mind was wide open to imprinting beliefs as a result...

I chose to inflict some movies on myself over and over again

One was

what the bleep do we know?

another

The Matrix...

But the one that had a giant impact in direct and clear real philosophy was

Way of the peaceful warrior

if you have never seen it, rent it one day or download it...

It was watching Nick Nolte smoke a Cigar... and saying those words...

"It's not what you do it's the Habit" that inspired my thinking on this subject