Timewave Zero - Countdown to Transition

Originally posted by bonsaisert
reply to post by John Matrix

 

My apologies, Although it was an attackish question so well perceived.

No Problemo. I am struggling like others and trying to wrap my head around all the information in this thread and the whole TWZ Novelty theory.

My interest on bible prophecy (not religion) and my understanding of it, causes me to see parallels. TWZ theorists expect an event that will be a collective experience at zero point......something all mankind experiences. The only two events I can think of that would effect us on that scale, and have any profound effect on our collective consciousness would be a "deep impact" event, polar shift, or, the advent return of the messiah, when every knee will bow, and every tongue confess.....If predictions are true, everyone on earth will see Him coming as the skies open and legions of beings (angels) poor into our skies (a worm hole opening another dimension?). If an event of such magnitute happened as is described in scriptures, everyone would truly stop dead in their tracks....awestruck. There are celestial, UFO, and other events that have awe struck small groups of people, joining them together for a moment in time when all their walls, fronts, facades, come down, and they sense the oneness. But the zero point event will make all those events pale in comparison.

I would welcome the latter over a catastrophic event.

Originally posted by Sliadon
On a side, and if I have missed this elsewhere in the thread my apologies,

What does your timeline have in conjunction with December 31st and going forward? That is the date tied with Codex Alimentarius.

December 31, 2009 resonates with September 5th, 1822. Brazil's independance was declared in September 7th, 1822.

Maybe someone can find more historical world events for that time frame?
My time is "precious" ----Smeagol Gollum. Ya gotta feel sorry for a guy that laughs at his won jokes.

Another intersting date is:
January 15, 2011 resonates with the birth of Adolf Hitler, April 20, 1889.
1889 is a year of revolution.
January 17, th 2011 resonates with August 12, 1889.

Check world changing events for 1889 here: en.wikipedia.org...

don't worry guys. I can safely say with 101% certainty that there will be no nuclear dust or anything liek that in late october or in any time until the end of timewave zero. Which is only 1233 days from now.
All it is is fear mongering and as far as web bot goes, it is mistaking once again,as it has many times. The crisis of fall 2008 was an easy guess,very easy, Gerald Celente gave that timeperiod long before webbot and he just saw it coming economics wise.
Webbot hasn't proved itself to me in any shape or form up till this time so I don't give it any credentials.

Originally posted by grantbeed
reply to post by Evasius

 

i think this is the clip the poster is referring to -

www.liveleak.com...

Yowwwwza!!

Here is a link to one of the Webbot guys websites. (Clif High) I have been watching both the TWZ and Webbot reports and have compiled a "Dates to watch out for" list that I look at everyday. The Baja earthquakes where predicted by these guys and I told my husband they had said it was a "Dual" event so to expect another 6+ quake the next day. (Aug. 4th) As watching the news yesterday evening, the 6+ quake in Japan was reported. I know not everything the Webbot reports say are correct but when they correlate with TWZ I really pay attention. Thanks for this thread Eviaus!


www.urbansurvival.com...

[edit on 5-8-2009 by tamaransd]

reply to post by Henduluin


Just adding to my explanation of parallel timelines -

Here is a visualization of parallel timelines using both versions of the same scene from Back to the Futures 1 & 2. I think they were intended to be the same and the original was re-shot because a new actress was hired.

Anyway, I believe this kind of thing can happen in reality - I would explain this scenario by proposing that changes in the first timeline sparked the growth of a second and separate timeline with slight differences including the one major change of Marty's girlfriend being a completely different person:



Perhaps slight changes such as these could occur in one timeline resulting in conflicting memories, etc, or maybe similar timelines can eventually merge comprising one experience. Major changes would remain in separate timelines, such as the "Biff World" scenario in BTTF2.

[edit on 5/8/09 by Evasius]

Originally posted by Evasius
Perhaps slight changes such as these could occur in one timeline resulting in conflicting memories, etc

Or maybe perhaps... deja vu? Now there's a can of worms for you.

Anyhow, I'm inclined to agree with your idea of paradoxes not being allowed on a single timeline. That would explain why our history isn't full of them, even though we will apparently, in the future, travel back in time and mess around - at least, if those stories about future humans visiting us are true.

However, I personally do not think changes so much create a new timeline, as merely shift the train onto another track, so to speak. I have always felt every possible timeline already exists, and that it's just a matter of focusing on the one you want to experience, which apparently can happen unconsciously on accident from time to time. Not only have I heard stories like that before, I could swear I've had it happen to myself once or twice. (Really minor changes, but nevertheless big enough to make me feel really out of place) This might be what you were referring to with the conflicting memories however.

Originally posted by Evasius
Or maybe zero date is the birth point for all timelines?

I'll take this even one step further and hypothesize that the Zero Date could be both the beginning *and* the end: It's possible that the timewave itself isn't linear, but circular, and that you can experience it both "forwards" and "backwards", depending on the experiences you chose to... well, experience, in this life. Everything else in the universe is cyclical in nature, so why not the timewave?

The image that pops up in my mind as I type this is that of the Ouroboros, with the start of the Time Wave being the head, or wide end, symbolizing the relatively long cycles, and the Zero Point being the tail, or thin end, symbolizing the relatively short cycles - with the very earliest cycle (head) synchronizing with the latest cycles (tail), to create an additional layer ontop of the timewave (head biting tail), that could possibly influence the very last cycles in ways we can't predict quite yet.
(Mind you, this is just me brainstorming, but it somehow feels right to me personally.)

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[edit on 6/8/2009 by Henduluin]

Originally posted by tamaransd
Here is a link to one of the Webbot guys websites. (Clif High) I have been watching both the TWZ and Webbot reports and have compiled a "Dates to watch out for" list that I look at everyday. The Baja earthquakes where predicted by these guys and I told my husband they had said it was a "Dual" event so to expect another 6+ quake the next day. (Aug. 4th) As watching the news yesterday evening, the 6+ quake in Japan was reported. I know not everything the Webbot reports say are correct but when they correlate with TWZ I really pay attention. Thanks for this thread Eviaus!


www.urbansurvival.com...

[edit on 5-8-2009 by tamaransd]

Yes, the dual 6+ quakes was an interesting one. I think the reason some people cannot understand the accuracy of WB is because it often points to the 'beginning' of a series of events that result in the emotional discharge. For instance, they will point to Aug 22 as the turning point for the next economic ****storm but nothing overt will happen on that day. Aug 22 will be just like any other day but in hindsight we will look at it and see how it was the beginning - the little snowball at the top of the mountain - which turned into the snowboulder at the bottom.

My interpretation of the two 6+ quakes was that they would signal the beginning of a new seismically active period in the Pacific. We should know if that is the case or not by year-end.

The Oct 2x date is interesting because it seems to be coming across as a "hard date" for an overt event but there seems to be muddy waters with regards to what that event will be. Time will tell.

Oh, and your link to Urban Survival actually is run by George Ure - he is a friend of Clif High but does not run the WB project with him. They just seem to share ideas and help eachother out with perspective issues but George does not run any part of WB besides promoting it from his site.

I purchase the $10 reports and must say, they are interesting. I try to read them as fiction, but if even half of what they report actually happens then it will be obvious whether they are frauds or not by the new year. I think the interpretations are often off - perhaps more intense than the actual event is when it happens... but that is a good thing I suppose!

I love the timewave theory. Very nice topic!

Have you ever heard of the "auric time scale"?
It is like a combination of McKenna's Timewave Zero, the Mayan calendar and
phi spiral.
A theory by Smelyakov, Geoff Stray (from www.diagnosis2012.co.uk) and Jan Wicherink. They look at historical events too and they match/resonate with their calculated so called 'bifurcation points' in time.

"His Auric Time Scale divides the time span of the 5125 years or the 13 baktuns of the Maya Long Count Calendar into 12 Golden Mean separated intervals. Dr. Smelyakov proved in his first paper on the Auric Time Scale that the epochs he found that separate the Maya calendar into Golden Mean segments synchronise with worldly demographic trends (growth of the population in China), astronomical events, natural cataclysms and spiritual developments as well as the introduction of calendar systems."

here you can find more on this subject:

www.soulsofdistortion.nl...

This slightly off topic but i thought you guys might find this interesting... It's called The Colors of Infinity by Arthur C Clake (the guy who did 2001: A Space Odyssey) and it's all about the nature of Fractals and their relation to universe. Specifically the talk about the Mandelbrot set.

It's in 6 parts on YouTube and i highly recommend you guys check it out if you get the time. It's about 40 minutes or so in total.

P1 - www.youtube.com...
P2 - www.youtube.com...
P3 - www.youtube.com...
P4 - www.youtube.com...
P5 - www.youtube.com...
P5 - www.youtube.com...

If you don't want to watch all of it, at least part part 3. Let me know what you guys think.

reply to post by BlasteR


I'm just reading back through some of the previous pages now, and this post by BlasteR caught my attention 'again.'

www.abovetopsecret.com...

That's one heck of a coherent overview on the Timewave topic. I appreciate your efforts as do many of the other contributors to these threads. You've always opened my mind to new possibilities and have helped shape my own views about this theory. Thank you.

I have a favour to ask you Evasius.
Could you put together the timewave graph starting from the peak point(which was august 22nd i think) and till the end of the year and another one until the lowest point in late october ?

Something similar to what you did with from late june to late august.

And am I correct to assume that august 10th was 1797 in resonance?
and august 16th will be 1798 and august 28th will be 1800 ?

reply to post by Valeri


I'll check that info tonight when I get home. I plan on posting the current portion of the graph along with the past resonance as per normal (along with the October information).

Hi all,

Just to let you, that around this week and next the stock market should start a long decline, which should be quite heavy by September and October.

This would of course correlate exactly with the timewave peaks for 20 August and 23 October, also with astrology (exact Uranus-Saturn opposition, Mars trigering this) and webbot predictions.
All the three predictions like they were for last October 2008 meltdown.

I think it already started quietly yesterday, and will continue to next week!
Accordingly to my feeling, it will happen again.
What do you all think?


[edit on 12-8-2009 by segurelha]

I've felt the tightening of the spiral much more in the last week in that there has been a heightened perception of coherence in my personal experiences - coherence between thoughts, events, encounters, feelings, etc. It's been something like a synchronicity with a purpose rather than odd 'coincidences.' These occurrences have been directly related to things I wanted to know, ideas I had just prior to related experiences, thoughts and events happening simultaneously, and things just making more sense without seemingly any effort on my behalf (aside from being curious and observant).

This ramping-up of coincidence increased until Monday when it nearly flatlined. Then today it began again with a series of 'dual events' where two similar things occurred simultaneously - I had 4 sets of 2 happen over a 4 hour period. What's clear to me is that this acceleration of synchronicity is increasing at a jagged pace, similar to the Timewave graph. I'm currently comparing the two to see if there's any real correlation.

I became awake to synchronicity a few years ago when it became an obvious part of my life. Now it's increasing along with the passage of time (either the amount of synchronous events are increasing, or the interval between coincidences is decreasing). This leads me to believe that this 'convergence' of timelines, time cycles, and both human and natural events is much more complex than even those astounding variables. Reality must be made of of infinite strands of something able to be consciously perceived - especially when they meet and overlap. Not just parallel time tracks, but all possibility. If one possible scenario, or outcome, exists as a sort of strand in time, then reality must be made up of a huge sheet of these strands weaved together in a space-time or 'time-space.' We're approaching a 'gathering' of this material where its flow is being forced through the same tight space as everything else. Perhaps as these strands get closer, events line up, coincide, take place congruently and eventually lead to synchronicity. Perhaps Dec. 2012 marks the ultimate synchronisitc event, or even something like a 'cosmic coincidence.'

Below is an image which is a simple attempt to show multi-level cycles in time converging at one point along the macro-timeline. What's missing from the illustration is the complexity contributing to our experience of rushing towards that glowing nexus ahead.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/65dfe15f351a.jpg[/atsimg]

For this point in time to have been predicted hundreds of years ago, there has to be more going on than simply the end of one cosmic cycle and the beginning of another. It's more involved than the cosmic clock striking midnight - it's a very palpable experience being here at this point in time (especially when compared with our previous experiences of time).

The below image is a fractal view of PI - when I saw this image I immediately thought of time. The curved lines in my opinion do not represent timelines, but the boundaries of ever decreasing portions of the whole structure. Eventually you get to the baseline when the process turns inside out and begins again (that's my view of it - here is the description from the site where I originally obtained the image, click on the link below to see the original color-version):

Looking at the figure below, the length of the large green semi-circle above the midline equals the sum of the lengths of the largest red semi-circle above the midline and the largest red semi-circle below the midline. The shape thus formed resembles the 'tear' shape so characteristic of the yin-yang symbol.

In turn, the length of the largest red semi-circle above the midline equals the sum of the lengths of the 2 green semi-circles with which it forms a tear-drop.

Taking this idea further - thinking recursively - the length of the large green semi-circle on top of the midline is the same as the length of the tiny red wavy line squigling around the midline.

Knowing that PI represents the relationsip between a circle and its midline, the interaction of the 2 fundamental elements (circle and midline) is well illustrated here.

It is interesting to visualise this process going on at infinitum; the little red wavy line getting smaller and smaller as its frequency increases. Of course, we know that no matter how small this wavy line gets, its length will always be PI/2 times greater than the true midline (the division by 2 is because we are using half circles here).

Yin-Yang PI

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5875b56a0a0a.jpg[/atsimg]

Lastly here is a segment from a crop circle documentary entitled 'New Swirled Order.' It inspired the first image in this post and proposes a view of 2012 that is very similar to what the Timewave shows, and they've done a very good job with their visual explanation of what I believe is occurring.



It's all there - the Mayan calendar, converging time cycles, transition, acceleration, multidimensional reality, synchronicity, etc.


[edit on 12/8/09 by Evasius]

This video is very interesting and was brought to my attention by a fellow ATS'er. The description from the Youtube page is:

Using statistical analysis, the Russian mathematician Fromenko has questioned the veracity of many historical records. His methodology is discussed by Ellen Black & Robert Schmidt at the 1997 FortFest.

I've searched 'Fromenko' and haven't found much relevant to this topc, but the content of the video is very intriguing and is yet another interpretation of time that's centered around cycles and parallel timelines. From what I can gather, the research is attempting to establish the true dates for events that happened in the past using astronomical correlations, and also has identified correlating 'chunks' of time that mirror each other.

I've watched it twice, I may have to watch it another time or two to see if I get the true gist of it. I wouldn't mind seeing the entire lecture.

Parallel Timelines in History

Interesting but far too little info in that vid.
Google doesn't really find anything on Fromenko.

His name's Fomenko, without the r.

Ok, I read the wiki on Fomenko.
I sure like a good alternative theory but this stuff is pretty far out.

Wow.

Evasius, I have been following this thread on and off for a little while now. Thank you for presenting all of your work here.

Your last post struck a visceral chord with me.

As well, I have been noticing very dramatic synchronicities in my day to day life. Interestingly, Deja vu has also become very common, though it is never quite the same. Oftentimes, I will have that distinctly eerie feeling of deja vu only to be struck by something that is not quite right--something is happening ever so slightly differently from how it "originally happened". I intuited that what I was noticing was a convergence of timelines, or dimensions wherein I was engaged in the same activity but that something occurred slightly different.

It struck me that a different timeline or dimensional wave swept past at that moment and I became aware of the resonance that echoed in our current timewave (a disturbance in the force if you will).

In all of my reading and research of late, one thing keeps popping up, that 2012 is a convergence date. The diagrams that you posted above are a perfect analogy for what my intuition has been leading me towards.

All this also correlates with the Ra Material that teaches that in 2012 will conclude with a zero point experience in which all that is possible will be, and all that has happened will happen...perhaps a point in which all of the timewaves and dimensional waves converge in a single point.

Imagine what could be possible in such a scenario. Wow, just wow.

edit to clarify


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