Timewave Zero - Countdown to Transition

reply to post by SonOfTheLawOfOne


Its a waste of time trying to discuss with the skeptics and newcomers in this thread.
You will be always stuck in a conflicting situation: it us OR them. There is no half a way to think about this theory. Its either extreme interest or complete lack of interest.

You can talk about your personal novelty, they will tell you that the theory is " influencing " you to think your life is novel just when novelty should be higher than normal.
You can talk about world events and they will tell you they are a joke, non- events, non important, too American focused or irrilevant to the thousands of deaths that happen everyday, obviously some kind of daily extreme novelty.
Death is for sure the daily extreme novel event that should be relevant more than anything.
Mind you! I'm being sarcastic here, let's just avoid from the beginning every possibility to blow up in some dispute...
Some people think that more deaths means more relevant, more novel. I'm sorry, you still have no clue what a novel event is actually,

We've got dna and they still think its all a coincidence. Dna can dismiss coincidences.
What about the identical lifes of identical twins that never spent infancy together?

You talk about technology, they will tell you that absolutely everyone on earth could do the same graph and make a graph of history and tell some dates whatever they are.
They will tell you that Mckenna did drugs all the time, like he was breathing drugs instead of oxhygen, like he was constantly on drugs.
I still have to see ONE interview in which he eats mushrooms or where he smokes some drug.
I still have to see ONE interview in which he starts to delire and talk non-sense just like he was detached from reality.
He knew what reality was, he was skeptical about his own theories, he teached some things of great value.

Their conclusion is drugs - nut, crazy.
Every theory that purports to tell you anything about the future will be immediately dismissed by man's LIMITS to discuss the future.
Even when past LIMITS of man were flight, travelling into space and world-wide communication.

They will tell you events that shutter the world's paradigms happen everyday, that the dates are bunked...
They will tell you novelty is incalculable when this graph makes you see the numbers of novelty, like a value.

NOTHING will be ever enough for them to prove this theory positive. Just give up, man, give up because we are not making any accomplishment.
When you touch the mind of a skeptic that won't move a finger to say " Maybe there is something into this " you will never change something about the way they are.

Mind you, every single event of 2012 will be scrutinized by those skeptics that curiosly spend entire days into Ufo threads and 2012 threads though their skepticism should make them stay far out of those threads and discussion, just for a matter of GOODSENSE. Or even LOGIC.
You are not interested, STAY OUT. Why do you have to torture yourself?
Most skeptics are born out of fear of change, fear of the unknown.

Whatever event is going to happen in 2012 will be decribed as bunk from the very beginning.
Its a waste of time.
They have faith in science, though it always changes toward a new paradigm of thought.

,I'm in the process of giving up myself. I will seriously, very seriously put off my notes from my desk, I will move my notebooks into a room of my house I never go in.

I'm tired of this thread, I feel very tired of whatever opinion people have. I want to change my interests, exactly like I did in 2009.

We discussed everything possible about this theory, there is nothing more to add, and I just have to say that we didn't accomplished anything.

We should agree that this theory has many holes and just doesn't agrees with reality. That's what all those people are PRAYING us to DO.
That's what they are WAITING for to happen.
Just admit it...

So, I give up, I personally didn't accomplished a single thing other than being called insane...
Some other people have tried to save this thread but we know that since Evasius went away, this thread went lost.

I don't want to provoke any conflict, I'm tired of challenging skeptics, they have challenged me more than anyone I know...



Mind you, I have the complete awareness that some day this theory will come to that fateful day and its very LIKELY that we all lost time into some non-sense.
I know some Mckenna' s conclusions are not based on goodsense but I don't think Mckenna is mad.

You guys should seriously think about distinguish one with a open mind from insanity.
Its a stereotype, a very false, misguided stereotype.


Science was MADE from people who challenged the dogmas.
DOGMAS DON'T MAKE YOU GET PROGRESS.



I do KNOW.
But I always ask " What if? "...

Anyway, again, life is not made by the IF EVENTS. We need facts and stop.

I usually am interested about every topic until its exhausted. Until the point for discussion is lost...
I feel very much so right now.
This theory 's discussion JUMPED THE SHARK months ago.
I feel we have exhausted it.

You can have a little private party, I lost the interest and this thread will go on without my support and partecipation.

reply to post by Zagari


This is what I don't get, it's almost as if you're discussing about a religion with people...they get really cranky when someone questions their BELIEF. I'm saying belief, because in this entire thread, there has been not a shred of evidence to back up that timewave hypothesis.

reply to post by MrXYZ


Its not a religion for me...Its CURIOSITY. I have a extremely curious attitude towards theories that change global paradigms.
I'm not religious. No one ever got a clue of what God really is...No one has a clue.
Its also RESPECT, toward Mckenna, of course, and knowing that this thread wouldn't be existing without Evasius, I'm prone to support Evasius.
I would WISH this theory to be true, but of course, on that day I will face some personal judgement.
My brother will laugh at me big time.
What are the odds of this theory to be right? It will be my question for 2 years.
The odds are very LOW...But not zero.


My beliefs can change, even if you guys would say something different about this statement, right now, I wouldn't be here actually without some big personal change in opinions.
I was one who thought so much differently before Timewave. I did make some change.

I admit I'm moody and sometimes I come here to post on the very wrong day...
You can recognize it from my writing...


I'm open to failure, I'm open to loss of time, I'm willing to spend time into some theory even when all the odds are against a good result.
I'm also opening to defend my own beliefs, AS MUCH AS all the skeptics do.
I also know when I exxaggerate.
I just take it secret.


Almost every day I post a comment on this thread I spend some time telling myself: " wow, you are going too far now ", " well, this could have been said in a different way ".
I'm very introspective.

I don't expect miracles from this theory. That's my precise belief in a nutshell.
In a nutshell, the final result has to be tight to the law of physics even if its the mother of all paradigm changes..

I secretly think this theory has many holes. The basis is right, but to me, I'm talking seriously here, to me this theory is incomplete.
It lacks that one thing that I think its indispensable even if I'm not sure of what it is exactly.

Its a feeling, this theory is incomplete and this bugs me all the time I read this thread.
I feel like I'm in front of some hi-tech television but I can't make it work.

Like the Timewave is the skeleton of some mind blowing theory.

I'm completely sure the theory would have been modified big time if Mckenna was to live until 2011...
I'm sure he would have changed his own opinions.

Even the creator of the software thought this way: there is a sense of incompleteness in this theory.

Unfortunately, Mckenna died too much early.

If I would have been in charge of creating a software for this theory I would have done it in a different way.

This is my sincere belief, this theory is incomplete.

All our discussions are born from the lack of the essential tool/or whatever it is to give the final evidence to this theory.
We've got a whole book, but the last pages are missing.

reply to post by MrXYZ


The Timewave has been discussed and analyzed by professors, physicists, and mathematicians. Yet you keep spouting there has been no evidence displayed across the hundreds of pages of the several threads on this subject. Do you want the mathematical formula behind the timewave? How about Terence speaking on it himself?

We don't disregard you because we are trying to maintain a belief structure. We disregard you because your quite obvious troll-baiting, logical fallacies and one sentence write offs hold no ground at all under the weight of information quite readily available to you, however much you try to ignore it.

reply to post by Tgautier13


The physicists that analyzed Timewave Zero theory weren't confident about the value of the theory.
Sheliak said the graph can't fulfill what it is supposed to fulfill.

Peter Meyer, the developer of the software, said it was a interesting way to lose your time...

Some day we will have to face the evident falacy of the theory, maybe it would be better now than later...

There are actually thousands way to dismiss every single part of the theory.

- Drugs aren't reliable, can't be used to accomplish a idea based on reality
- Some dates have shown no significant novelty
- The future will never be known by anyone
- The I- Ching shows no predictive value of any sort
- Time is not real, its only our perception
- Technological progress can't go on forever
- We cannot get time travel in any way
- Aliens can't reach us
- global consciousness is a myth

Try to debunk some of these sentences if you can...

The whole mess in Australia is resonating with Johnstown flood of 1889...May 31...
Collapse of a dam and 2.500 victims.
AND 1887 Yellow River flood in China...

I wonder HOW MANY times I said January 2011 will be about a dam collapse...

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 08:48 AM

December 2010, another big eruption, big event in Koreas, big quake Usa
January 2011, huge flood with dam collapse, Great Blizzard 1888

posted on 17-5-2010 @ 03:46 AM this post Yes, I have your same result.

2011 DATES

JANUARY 4 - Yellow River flood
JANUARY 7-9 - Great Blizzard Usa

JANUARY 16 ( VERY NOVEL ) - Great Seattle fire, Dam Collapse Pennsylvania

JANUARY 17-18 - Unknown very novel event

JANUARY 26 - Chile Civil war

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01/01/11 at 16:58:32 JANUARY

MOST NOVEL DAYS: January 7 2011- January 17 2011

January 7 2011 is linked to the floods of the Yellow River in China of 1887 and January 8 2011 to the blizzards of 1888 in United States countries.
Also, January 7 2011 is linked to a violent event in Ireland and January 8 2011 is linked to a great fire event in Shangai.

Let's analyze now January 17 2011:

This day is connected to the following events:

- a huge fire in Seattle
- the collapse of a dam in Pennsylvania
- Protection of Children Act of 1889

January 17 2011 is a greatly novel day, but is surpassed by October 5 2011 and December 3 2011.


posted on 17-8-2010 @ 02:25 PM

China will be almost annihilated by a natural disaster at the end of 2010, caused by the collapse of Three Gorges Dam. It may also happen by mid- January 2011.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
Katla and another very huge volcano will erupt in October and late November 2010




Astronomers have discovered the smallest planet outside our Solar System, and the first that is undoubtedly rocky like Earth.

Measurements of unprecedented precision have shown that the planet, Kepler 10b, has a diameter 1.4 times that of Earth, and a mass 4.6 times higher.

However, because it orbits its host star so closely, the planet could not harbour life.

The discovery has been hailed as "among the most profound in human history".

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOOK:

JANUARY 3 2011
Standard graph:

1887:

January 11 – Louis Pasteur's anti-rabies treatment is defended in the French Academy of Medicine by Dr. Joseph Grancher.
January 20 – The United States Senate allows the Navy to lease Pearl Harbor as a naval base.
January 21
The Amateur Athletic Union (AAU) is formed.
HERE HERE HERE HERE HERE
Brisbane receives a daily rainfall of 465 millimetres – a record for any Australian capital city


19-22/1/1887 Very heavy rain over Moreton and East Darling Downs divisions. Creeks in flood and low-lying ground submerged at Cryna (Beaudesert) and Fassifern. Goodna township flooded; houses under water.
"The rain commenced on Wednesday January 19. During the 24 hours to 9am on Friday 21st, 2.63 inches was recorded. Between 9am and 4.30pm on the same day 6.83 inches was recorded." (From Queensland Times, 22 Jan 1887, Ref 1.)

22/1/1887 Railway traffic on the Southern and Western Railway suspended on account of floods. Bowen Bridge, Brisbane 5 feet under water at 5 pm, washed away at 6.30 pm.
23/1/1887 Very high flood at Brisbane. Several lives lost by drowning and a great deal of property damaged.
25/1/1887 The steamer 'Barrabool" ran aground in Brisbane River and two sailors were drowned by the flood waters.
13/8/1887 Heavy rains flooded the low-lying ground in neighbourhood of Brisbane.

reply to post by Zagari

Its a waste of time trying to discuss with the skeptics and newcomers in this thread. You will be always stuck in a conflicting situation: it us OR them. There is no half a way to think about this theory. Its either extreme interest or complete lack of interest.

You can talk about your personal novelty, they will tell you that the theory is " influencing " you to think your life is novel just when novelty should be higher than normal. You can talk about world events and they will tell you they are a joke, non- events, non important, too American focused or irrilevant to the thousands of deaths that happen everyday, obviously some kind of daily extreme novelty.

IMO, one of your best posts Zagari.

Very well said.

~Namaste

I just posted above a PRECISE , indisputable hit of Timewave Zero...

Its great that I did that thread about daily resonances or I would't have found out about Brisbane and 1880s correlations.

That's IT. IT'S THE PROOF WE NEED.

That part of 1880s decade resonancing with first 10 days of 2011 was ALL about FLOODS, now on January 16th 2011 there is resonancing with a dam collapse in Pennsylvania.
I guess Brisbane is in serious danger here.

I'm waiting for the response of the mass of skeptics to my last finding...

ITS THE PROOF.

I obviously posted it the same thing on you tube Timewave Zero 2011...
It HAS to be SEEN.


This is a crazy time for me. I was ready to abandon the theory and right now the most precise proof of its working comes out...
I don't know what to say...

Seriously:
All the skeptics come here and discuss the Australia resonancing with all those floods in 1880s...
Try to debunk that.

I guess the amount of novelty to be fulfilled on January 17 2011 is going to be something about Brisbane.
There are 2 million people living around that dam that is in risk of collapsing RIGHT NOW.

Australia is my favorite country and I 'm in pain for what is happening right there...

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We do have the tools to predict the future...
The Timewave graph needs serious attention and scutiny of the smallest things

THE SOONER you understand THE BETTER we will be...

I must say well done,i knew you had predicted these floods in aus,i just couldnt find it!

And heres an interesting article on the dam,lets hope the water dont go over the wall.
au.news.yahoo.com...

www.businessweek.com...

"The most disturbing thing so far was the “inland tsunami” which has leveled a major regional town 2000’ above sea level. Unprecedented and unpredicted, a wall of water on top of the mountain hit the town and caused widespread devastation and deaths and then has continued rolling on down the mountain to the townships below. Wall of water – no warning. Yep, this has to be bad and this particular phenomenon has never been seen before. Cars were thrown around like toys.

Excellent research Zagari! It's a relief to know you are continuing to add to this thread, I was pretty bummed last week when you were getting discouraged. This thread is an excellent example of what keeps me coming back to ATS

Attributing random events to the graph isn't "proof"!! There's so many more significant things going on in the word than the ones you mentioned and attributed to that Timewave hogwash. Here's a clue: There's floods happening somewhere on the planet almost every single day...ergo the timewave stuff can never be completely wrong.

Like one of the programmers said, it's a great way to lose time

reply to post by MrXYZ


With all the research I posted about Brisbane and 1880s decade you talk about random?
GIVE ME A BREAK.
You are in denial. Just as simple.
Or maybe you actually don't understand the theory...

Read closely this one page 131 and tell me the Brisbane situation is random. That kind of flood JUST DOESN'T happens every day.
a 2 millions people town evacuated every day?
Give me the evidence and I will believe. Show me how many times such big towns are evacuated.

SHOW ME. Don't just talk.


You will come out with every sort of excuses even when the best evidence is already out.

I am not coherent with reality according to some people YET some other people can't read properly what's discussed in here?

We just have to wipe out the word " random " from this thread.
There is no random thing in existance.

See? That's the evidence they will never change. Anything can happen and they will not change.

I really wonder how man people will still talk about random events and disasters every single day on Earth...
C'mon, guys, c'mon!

How can this research progress if we always go 3 steps ahead and 100 steps back?

SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE FOR THE FALACY

No one got to show me yet the falacy...


Instead, we did the best we could to bring out the evidence of the extreme precision of the Timewave...

Mr Xyz, I wonder what is eating your brain...XD

The reason this theory attires so much conflict and refusing is because its correct. Simple as that.
True hoax don't last 131 pages.

reply to post by Zagari


You are just randomly linking dates and events from the past to "make it fit". I can't believe people can't see that this is the same thing as shooting a barn door and then painting a bullseye around where you hit the most. For crying out loud, like has been said numerous times before, you will ALWAYS find some special event on every single day of the year and there will always be something similar that has happened before. It has nothing to do with that Timewave hogwash...it's called probability!!

reply to post by MrXYZ


RANDOMLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude, I can't lose time with you, just read this thread before to say such things, you have no clue at all!!!

Why I discuss the 1880s decade? Because this is the point we REACHED right NOW on the graph.
Its simple. Its elementary. A child can comprehend what's discussed here.

In June 2009 Evasius discussed the 1790s. We moved on...Its simple, really.
You sound extremely dumb to me,
Sorry but you are making me sad...

How can I explain the research better than this? Do you need a comprehension tutor?
No, really...

I'm a teenager, but I don't have any difficulty understanding the theory...

The purpose of the graph is indeed attributing past events to the future ones, but there is a certain common sense to follow.
And I do follow it.

I'm not discussing apples instead of flowers.

You call random what I call a connection.
Your definition of random is incorrect.

A random thing is completely chaotic...
A random thing goes against the laws of physics.

No behavior in nature is random. Get it.

reply to post by Zagari


Lol, no reason to get all worked up, calm down and breathe

Look, you will always be able to link events in the past to present events...that itself proves nothing!! So your entire post is nothing but pure speculation. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but if you think what you posted is scientific evidence, you clearly have no clue about scientific method

reply to post by MrXYZ


I'm sorry to burst your bubble but you have no clue what' s discussed in here.

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but you won't find a random behavior in nature.

Give me the evidence for randomness and I will stop thinking you're dumb.

Because believe me, you are sounding disinformed and plainly dumb right now.

I know this thread is long, but , man, you just have no clue.

reply to post by Zagari


And now you're resorting to ad hominem attacks...just like religious people when you question their BELIEF. See the parallels?