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Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Annee
Your not getting it. Your right not to hear something is reserved in your freedom of movement. Don't want to hear it? leave/change the channel/alter your friendships/do not go. Your dislike of something does not justify the banning of it for all. If that was true, than someone who doesn't like pink could sue a pink-based store. Your position is not a valid argument in legal terms.
I will give you an example of what we do in New York City. The Ferry boats often have preachers. They are annoying, extremely annoying. But the city reserves them the right to go on the ferries and preach their religious viewpoints. It's public transportation, but the city allows it because it is public. all the hundreds of people hate to hear it, but the fact is it is freedom of speech. You want to preach? you can. Just don't bother or harass the people and the boat guards leave you alone.
That's an exact example of this student. The government reserves her right to say what she wants, even if you do not agree with it. Unless there is physical aggression or calling physical violence to another, there is no justification for stopping it.
Originally posted by Murky
Censorship of religious expression is something we'd better damned well be up in arms against; if we're not vigilant against censorship when it's directed at speech we don't like, it'll apply to our own speech and views some day because we didn't oppose it when it would have been easy to stop.
Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
reply to post by Annee
"Be the change you want to see in the world."
Not allowing any religious expression is a testement to your unwillingness for you to accept the very acceptance you want everybody else to. Now how are you going to justify that?
Originally posted by Fremd
reply to post by Annee
actually, by your standards, nobody should be allowed to say anything about God, and everyone should be allowed to say something about God. Because you have agnostics, atheists, pagans, jews, Christians, Muslims, heavens gate, scientologists, etc..
Originally posted by Fremd
I remember when i was in school, there was one single parent who protested erecting Christmas tree's in the lunch room (i think i was in 6th or 7th grade)
one single angry at the world for everything kind of parent.
The kind you just want to go live in another country somewhere so she can see how easy she has it.
Originally posted by Fremd
All your pandering (and those who crusade with you) is good for is for you to be able to justify telling someone else how to live their life.
If you don't like my Christmas tree, look the other way.
Don't piss in my sandbox, and i won't defecate in yours. It's called "living together".
People like you scream 'respect my differences' but you never respect anyone else's. Can you please tell me why?
My opinion is only directed at government facilities - not private. UCLA being a public school - makes it government.
1. An elementary or secondary school in the United States supported by public funds and providing free education for children of a community or district.
1.☆ in the U.S., an elementary or secondary school that is part of a system of free schools maintained by public taxes and supervised by local authorities
: a free tax-supported school controlled by a local governmental authority
University registration fee,
Resident , Non-Resident
$ 864.00 $786.00
Education Fee
$ 7,122.00 (R) $ 7,434.00(N-R)
Total Annual MPP Program Fees
$14,210.50 (R) $26,767.50 (N-R)
They even force the students to carry medical coverage Also...
MIP (Mandatory Medical Insurance) also known as Graduate Student health Insurance Plan; $1,338.00 for both residents and non-residents (GSHIP)
Non-Resident Tuition 12,245.00
She could say something like - I would like to thank my god - and I offer all of you this time to thank yours - - for non-believers please take this time to reflect on what is important to you.
You are obviously Christian.
I was raised (assimilated) Christian from childhood and continued into my adult life. I spent more then half of my life as a Christian. At some point - I began thinking for myself - and realized I didn't believe any of it.
Perhaps some day when there is truly a balance and acceptance of all believers and non-believers - - I will feel differently.