conscious Oobe....It's Real!!

Originally posted by SteveR

You will have plenty of "OOBE" when you're dead.

SteveR,

I must admit I get a joy out of your simplistic yet insightful observations.

Please keep them coming.


[edit on 8-6-2007 by etshrtslr]

Apologies Sev, I see now you assumed I was replying to you. My comments are toward the OOBE topic in general.

Last night I had the best OBE ive ever had I kept astrally sitting up but never got fully out and was just intruiged with what was goin on. Finally I decided to go for it so I sat up and rolled out and was stood/floating at the end of my bed, I looked over at my printer and decided to try leaving a hand mark on it where the dust had settled so I placed my hand on it but couldnt quite make out whether or not it left any mark so I looked at my window and then my wall and decided to go for the window. I passed through it and floated over to the corner of our street. I wondered what I should do baring in mind it was dark, about 3 in the morning and nobody was in sight. I decided to try and make it to my friends parents who live about half a mile away. I used the method that Robert Monroe talked about in his book 'Journeys out of the body' where by you keep focosing your attention on your location and you basically go there and ive used this before and it definately works. I did this and straight away it felt like some sort of force was pushing me from behind and I gradually accelerated faster and faster and had to squint my eyes occasionally cos I passed through quite a lot of things, phone boxes and houses etc.. and then I suddenly came to a holt when I got to my friends parents house. I was stood in there back garden and didnt know what to do next. I looked at the house next door and looked at the top window and decided to go into there room for some reason so I floated up and passed through the window acquring the usual glassy taste/feeling and was in there bedroom, there was a man and a woman layed there asleep and I noticed that the wardrobe had a mirror on it so I decided to look into it. I floated over and raised my head and got quite a shock. It was me in my boxershorts, I was floating about half a foot off the floor and my eyes where white as if my eyes where rolled back. When I leaned my head forward they would look normal but when I looked directly into the mirror they where all white and it wasnt pleasent to look at to be honest. I headed back out the window and couldnt decide what to do next so I decided to return. Now..... rather than instantly waking up I travelled back the same way as I travvelled there. It took about 5 seconds to return to my body and when I got to my room, my astral body sort of spinned itself round and aligned itself without me doing anything, then it dropped into my physical and I woke up. I woke up and thought to myself 'wow!' I turned my light on and had to sit there for 5 minutes to just grasp what id just experienced.

Oh.. and ive only just looked at my printer but theres no marks on it.

Originally posted by etshrtslr

Originally posted by SteveR

You will have plenty of "OOBE" when you're dead.

SteveR,

I must admit I get a joy out of your simplistic yet insightful observations.
Please keep them coming.

[edit on 8-6-2007 by etshrtslr]

Steve is absolutley correct....therefor very insightful indeed.Welcome to the thread insightful Steve

Way way back many pages ago.....I was trying to point out that the OOBE is alot more common to our spirit than being IN a body, so we aught to just try and focus MORE on what we do whilst in a body instead of trying so hard to get out...............being a human is a rare gift we need to make the best of.

Having ~INTEGRITY~ means more than anything else from my POV so far.......just be true & honest to yourself in all your dealings in life.
You will get all the OOBE you want when this body your in gives out.

I do understand the extreme desire to KNOW FOR SURE though....for my desire brought me to where I am now........just follow where your own heart leads you.


AWESOME Clarky wow......I am glad you also 'saw yourself' in a mirror, that helps validate my experience..............
Pretty kewl that trip sounds.........hahahaha at 'theGlassyTaste'...its SO WEIRD how you feel/taste the things that you pass through......now I want to try to pass through a person and see how that goes,how they taste/feel to pass through and if they even notice......

[edit on 11-6-2007 by theRiverGoddess]

Ok - pass through but just stay outa my head, TRG.

I was all out and about last night.

I was very busy trying many things.......I was experimenting when the sun rose........it looked different from that POV.

According to the clock I was busy for over 3 hours...........

Once back snug inside myself I had a very hard time trying to GO to sleep. I was busy mulling over the events OOBE and filing the lessons learned.

The more I learn the less I know.

im very young i can get my arms out but nothing elses any suggestions

Originally posted by theRiverGoddess
Out & about again today

After waking at 11am I decided to give it a shot and it is getting easier

Was a tad odd however, for I found myself in my teenage home...(moving at a normal rate and NOT s l o w)...there is a mirror area and I SWEAR I was seeing myself floating by in the mirrors.

I have not read anywhere that you COULD see your own reflection, but there I was watching myself float on by. I have read that looking into mirrors will send you to different planes on the Astral levels, so maybe I was just already in another plane.........
After floating around in the 'old house' for a while I decided to try some personal experiments...................and I won't divuldge the nature of them for they are HIGHLY personal, but I will say I am glad to report success in my experiment.

I came back to my body, and after feeling fully integrated I got up and saw that it was 2:10pm. This is the longest time out for me that I am aware of so far..........and its jibes with what I was out doing and checking on........

Improvements all the way around

I'm learning !!


[edit on 28-5-2007 by theRiverGoddess]

love the thread and its progress...


what tecnique are u using from the quote?

whats a POV?

[edit on 13-6-2007 by ucanneverdie]

POV usually stands for point of view.

I'm working on reading this thread but that's going to take days. Just getting to page 10 i've already got a ton of bookmarked webpages to check out, and lots of information to keep in the back of my mind.

Well I had what I think was my first notable OOBE experience a few nights ago. I've been trying to do this casually for about a year, but I've always read up on it some, and I've read a few parts of Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics.

Before I go into my experience because it will be long, I just have to say that I totally believe in this OOBE stuff. I've always thought it possible because of my the lucid dreaming experiences. I've come to two possibilities for myself: either the experience is truly taking place outside of the body, or our minds are (for lack of a better word) omniscent, and can under the right circumstances produce what is going on in places our senses would simply not possibly tell, while we travel to them in OOBE.

This thread is awesome and there is some good reading here. If you are interested in my recent experience then read on. If you are interested in OOBE check out the thread, especially the first 7 pages at least, do yourself a favor. I'm working on all of it now.

My experience began with an evening of napping after work. I got up from my nap and a few hours later it was time for bed. I was a little groggy and sleepy, but I was not tired. I was just so relaxed and in a great mood, that I just wanted to go back to sleep. Didn't have a care in the world.

So I was sleeping really lightly, having a very weak dream that I couldn't move much in or see well, but there was dialogue in the dream and things going on. I woke up from it when it felt like something had weakly grabbed my leg, and then let go. I was in such a great mood that this did not scare me one bit, my heartbeat and breathing didn't increase or anything, and besides it really felt harmless.

After going back to sleep I went back to that dream, and I got tired of it, because I couldn't do anything. So I tried to force myself to move and this brought my conciousness out of the dream and back to my body. Then I decided to try to leave my body, I can usually do it, but I don't gain eyesight or any control. So I did and I actually gained eyesight. I went back into my body, and right back out, almost as if I had bounced off.

I regained my eyesight and I went up through the ceiling and out through the roof at an angle into my front yard. Once outside I began to fall to the ground very slowly. I was disoriented and everything was upside down, but as I came towards the ground I righted myself and my perceptions, and soon my feet were touching the ground.

I remembered the warnings of trying to do to much on the first OOBE, so my priority soon became to get back safely, and in a way to help me recall the experience. I thought I had a little bit more time, so I began to walk towards the road, and then to fly sortof, but I couldn't move fast. Then I remembered the warnings again and I really didn't want to lose this experience, so I stopped.

I looked back at my house as if to go back, and then I remembered to look for the silver cord. After looking for it, it came into view, and soon it was brighter and thicker. I grabbed it and it felt like some form of energy. It was like it was completely taught. It made a noise when I let go of it like a messed up guitar string.

I then grew worried and remembered that once I got worried my body would go flying back, so I floated up on my back and waiting for that to happen. Nothing happened.. So I righted myself and began to go back on foot. Next thing I knew I was on the other side of my house, and so I decided to come through a window there. Then I went through a closed doorway to get into the hall, and through my closed doorway to my bedroom. Then I floated up and sort of crouching into a ball, I tumbled slowly towards my sleeping body. I did not bother to look at myself sleeping, I didn't need any excitement at that point, I just wanted to remember what I had done so far.

One thing that really stands out to me is that the first door I came through (after the window) is almost always left open. I soon realized that this error would prove that this was purely a hallucination or dream. I went to check the door and it was in fact shut that night, so my experience checked out. Can you imagine how that felt?

I could already barely believe it happened as I sat up in bed writing down my experiences, but to see that door shut was even more... unbelievable.

I think the main reason I succeeded was my carefree attitude on that night. After thinking about it and reading some more I really think it was an OOBE. I used to think OOBEs have many hard characteristics, but the more I read the more subjective I see they are.

thanks Novise...
i oobe last night and it was crazy... like two secounds after i got out i kept getting sucked right back in. after i got out after a few trys i wanted to got some where and i thought of paris...i didnt know that as soon as u think of it you go there, i thought you had to think hard.

but by accident i thought of...something and all i saw was dark sykes and a bond fire. then i went back in and i woke up

Thats interesting because i think that started to happen to me once. I was camping in Utah against my will "wilderness program" there was this cave in the area that was known to have satanic worship going on in it and they had "messed" with our program before. I had to stay 2 miles from in one night. I didn't sleep a wink that night. there was one point though that i was right on the edge of sleep and i was given the choice to wake up or go to sleep. Suddenly i wasbeing violently dragged in the direction of the cave i then woke up and i was in the same place. I didnt know what had happened at the time but as ive come to understand the occult better i think my soul was being pulled out of my body twords the cave. that was probabally the single most terrifying experience of my life. My advice to you is careful what you wish for.

Well if you were scared going into it and deprived of sleep that experience sounds actually normal given your state of mind. I think most people are careful with it, I know I am and I will heed your warning.

A lot of people seem to think you are safer if your spirit is inside your body. I am starting to question that. Well maybe it is slightly safer, but I don't see what good a fleshy body is going to do against something that can harm or steal your spirit.

My point is that if it has the power to harm you in spirit form, then it can probably go right through the body, just like OOBEers can fly through walls. At least in the astral you would be concious of it coming after you. That is unless our bodies actually cover the light of our spirit, and somehow put our spirits under the radar.

They can only 'get you' if you BELIEVE they can get you..................it is a very subjective experience and tends to manifest your belief system.

This is why each person has a different experience.......and some folks say that BAD THINGS chase them and other people never have this experience.....

The human brain is a very creative machine......and our reality is subject to our beliefs......when you want changes in your life you only need open up your mind to new realities and wha lah! your life is changed. When you change the way you SEE things around you then everything appears different.

after i OOBE the other night i woke up breathing very heavy like i was under water for 20 min... it kind of scared me...any one have that?

i found a easyier way to obe that works for me. i havent read this at all anywhere i just started doin it like a week ago. You ever had a dream that at one point you think to yourself this has got to be a dream? i do then the secound i relize this im find my self staring face to face with my self(astral projecting/sleeping in bed)

Earlier today I had my most fun OOBE to date! I came out and went up and up, and then called for clear sight and it came to me, and I was quite a ways above my house, so I started flying. I was attempting to go up to Park City, but found myself just zooming way up above the railroad tracks in a different direction. I tryd to visualize clearly the Park City destination but noooooooo.......I just kept going along following the tracks.......so I just relaxed & went along seeing where I would end up.
After a bit I was heading down....toward an old cabin type building, and I thought I was going to fly right through it but I stopped in front of it....I was then on the ground and was able to float along a path that wound round the big cabin, or maybe it was a barn....and then I veered off to the left and headed out to a fenced pasture. There was this horse at the fence and I swear it could see me coming, and it was shaking its head up and down and stomping at me in greeting. I could feel that it was happy to see me and greeting me.....

Then some cowboy like guy came up to the horse and looked right at me.....and he said "how ya doi'n?" and I asked him if he could see me, and he laughed and said "well YA hahahaha.......and they're waiting for you, so come on" and he started walking, and I was following along behind. At this point I stared waking to and was no longer floating.....He went into a house and held the door for me. I came in after him to meet 2 more cowboy type guys and a woman who seemed to be all the guys mother.....There was boisterus laughter and congineal ribbing amoungst them.
The woman started to give out chore duties and was saying something to me about not being reliable.........so I wondered HOW I knew these people and where WAS I anyway???? and thinking I MUST have past into the astral planes somehow and thought about my body back in my room.............and that was all she wrote ~SLAM~ I came back to myself and came fully wide awake, wondering about what I had just experienced.

I sure did enjoy that happy to see me horse! I am still wondering why all the charecters in this experience, seemed to find me so familiar....and expected.

Welcome to the astral plane TRG! I'm sure you will find it much more interesting than zipping around earth.

Just a friendly reminder not to trust anything said to you until you can prove it 100% true. (and I mean 100% not 99.99999999999%)

Originally posted by Cug
Just a friendly reminder not to trust anything said to you until you can prove it 100% true. (and I mean 100% not 99.99999999999%)

In the Astral planes....... do entities TRY and mislead you on purpose or what do you mean?
I figured I HAD to be there because they could see me......oh and it is not my first time there......I have found myself there a couple of times but as usuall it was not where I was TRYING to go.
Should I just give up on TRYING to do things and just see what happens? (I don't wan to just to quit trying)It's just that there are things I WANT to do so badly that I keep trying to do............
~such as~
There are things in real time I want to see.............volcanoes, stonehenge, ancient ruins in Italy and Turkey and South America, and the 4 corners area of the USA.......I would like to search for the hollow earth opening and see if its real............I want to explore the moon closely, and some other planets in our solar system............I want to seek out my grandmother who passed away a couple of months ago......the Akashic records would be cool.....these goals mean MORE to me then playing in the Astral planes..........

[edit on 22-6-2007 by theRiverGoddess]

Rivergoddess,

I got a unstable feeling when reading your last OOBE.

A few questions. Was the horse welcoming you, or wanting you to leave?

You are being pulled to this direction in small dosages and I am wondering why. Did you feel stagnate in their presence, if you can rememeber? Why do you think she said you were unreliable? I have a feeling she is using reverse psychology with you. If you feel at all stagnate or reluctant, I would advise you not to ask her why she thinks you're unreliable, this is just another benchmark in progression.

And yes, astral entities will misguide, I am just uncertain how sinister it can become.

I hope not to frighten, but the shivvers didn't stop until I finished the last line above. Very strong feeling. Love is all you need, so at least you got that going for you.

Thanks for considering my questions,

AAC

The horse seemed to be welcoming me...it eminated pure happiness and love at me as if we were old dear friends......

I did not get a feeling of 'knowing' the people and wondered what they were all about, so I was not sad to abruptly leave them as I did......but I miss the horse.