conscious Oobe....It's Real!!

well I've been trying for a very very long time...off and on
More or less 15 maybe 20 years ago I could fly....a few times. Then I stopped trying and focused on healing. First I did it ö
on my own, so to say, but later, when I knew I had to have a lot of help, I asked for a healer to help me.
Someone came and the results were terrific.
But after a while he "told"me to work from within myself. I was so disappointed.
Later someone else came to help me with another problem.
Point is, I can ask for help when I try to heal someone, but nothing else.
I do not see anyone in the akashic field, except the first time I was there.
I can not go out of my body.
Ido not see the advantages of oobe, but I would love some discussions with teachers, masters and healers, so I can help people more than I can now.
My question there for is: when out of my body is it then easier to meet these advanced beings?
If so, then pls, come and get me out. On my own I cannot do it.
I feel like I am stuck and would love some help

originally posted by: notsosunny
well I've been trying for a very very long time...off and on
More or less 15 maybe 20 years ago I could fly....a few times. Then I stopped trying and focused on healing. First I did it ö
on my own, so to say, but later, when I knew I had to have a lot of help, I asked for a healer to help me.
Someone came and the results were terrific.
But after a while he "told"me to work from within myself. I was so disappointed.
Later someone else came to help me with another problem.
Point is, I can ask for help when I try to heal someone, but nothing else.
I do not see anyone in the akashic field, except the first time I was there.
I can not go out of my body.
Ido not see the advantages of oobe, but I would love some discussions with teachers, masters and healers, so I can help people more than I can now.
My question there for is: when out of my body is it then easier to meet these advanced beings?
If so, then pls, come and get me out. On my own I cannot do it.
I feel like I am stuck and would love some help

I feel for you. . .I used to be out every night, but for a few years now, I have been "stuck". I suspect that one is helped only up to a certain point, after which you have to learn to help yourself. I met a teacher in the astral once, who said, "In the body or out of it, what is the difference?" I don't know the answer, but I do know that the joy of being free of the heavy meat suit is inexplicable to anyone who has not experienced it for themselves.

As a "booby prize", I do get almost constant "visions", not under my control. . . . perhaps one grows out of the need for OBEs ?

Lucid dreaming occurs most often when there is something disturbing a restful sleep.

A strong intent can sometimes be enough, similar to waking up at an early hour for an event just minutes before the alarm is set to go off.

The key is to stay focused on the immediate future and never the present. For example, flying, always focus on moving up or forward. If you focus on yourself or the ground, even briefly, you will end up falling or landing.

The reason for this is that the subconscious mind works in reverse. When you are faced with an upcoming goal, the subconscious works backwards to create a solution.

So what happens is that as your mind creates the outline of a story and the subconscious fills in the blanks as implanted experiences. By this process, what seems like a long dream can actually occur very quickly.

There was a great experiment that showed how the subconscious works in reverse, but I read it about 10 years ago and I can't find it online anymore.

I try to leave my body at times. It feels like I'm being stretched out (my whole upper body feeling like it's being stretched/elongated) until I get about, what feels like, 6 inches before I am immediately snapped back into me. I can fight that a little but it ultimately fails and I'm snapped back.

I can't believe this thread is still here .. wow brings back memories ... bad ones but still🙂

now and then i'm trying to keep this thread up, but last few months there was no conscious obe experiences, and thus nothing to write about.

Ill keep trying.

These threads are pretty old so idk if anyone will answer me. I use to do oobe quite often, absolutly loved it. Then one night something dark grabbed me, something ill never forget. I only did oobe close to home after that, until once again something came after me rigt inmy home. It not only grabbed me but i felt my life being drained it took everything i had to get back to my body. My problem now is when i sleep i am in the constant state of WiLD, very concious( an ever ready state of readiness to leave my body) idk how to stop this. Im not getting any sleep and i wont obe subconciously because i know he is waiting for me. Any ideas on how to stop this state or how to protect my self from him?

a reply to: Hombre any ideas on protecting ones self when in oobe?

a reply to: AutonomousMeatPuppet can the something disturbing the sleep keeping someone in lucid dreaming be a negative spirit or even something stronger?

a reply to: TheKillah29 there are rountine s you can do that will make it easier to procede with oobe, that part im good with but not so much with the protection of it

a reply to: HavenRayne

Do you pray before going to bed?

I'm not religious at all but I do believe that if we think positively and ask whoever it is up there in another dimensions to protect us, from the heart, they will.

I'm the opposite of you, I feel really protected whenever I sleep, walk on the street, or whatever other thing I do, but I can't leave my body consciously.

I almost did it one night a few months ago, I started to slowly move in the bed but when I realized that I was leaving my body I suddenly got back and never could do it again.

Do you mind PM me with some objective tips for doing it for the first time? Or just replying it here for anyone interested. Thanks!

originally posted by: HavenRayne
a reply to: Hombre any ideas on protecting ones self when in oobe?

After reading your post, following idea came up:

"The biggest fear is your own fear."

There is nothing to fear about there, but if it helps, cover yourself (the obe body) with Pure white light. Imagine it as surrounding you and being Loving, repelling (well, ... not yielding to) the darkness.

If it helps, know this white light as sent from your eternal higher self.

a reply to: theRiverGoddess

You can't just leap out of your body because you wish to do that. You have to be a special person who has to go to the aliens to discuss something, then you have to come back alive. Those who leave their body, actually take a ride to the ETs for meeting.

It's just like not everybody is allowd to go to the Capitolium for fun.

a reply to: spidermastermind

Lol.

She already stated that she made it consciously. In fact, everyone can do it, that is nothing special.

And you can leap out of the body, because the body can neither limit you, nor prevent you to do it.

The only thing, what you can do is, to believe that it is not possible, and so your belief can make it harder for your conscious projecting, temporarily.

a reply to: Hombre

Unfortunately I can't believe that a human living on the surface of this planet can leap out of his/her body simply by thinking of it. However, aliens can do it because their mind is different. I think, a human living on the surface is not interested in how to leave a body, because he/she can't understand it. I left my body for a while, but it required a huge spacecraft to do that.

a reply to: spidermastermind

You must not believe it until you experience it.

I had few experiences, but they were all a bit limited. But it is definitely possible.

You have to know that you are not the body, but something much greater behind it.
You only ''have'' and 'use' your body.

here is a helpful link:

obe4u.com...

and their explanatory youtube video.



Their conspiratory attitude in the video should not be taken too seriously. It is only used so that people attain interest in the process of Lucid Dreaming and Obe.

a reply to: Hombre

I saw through the wall with my eyes covered. It was amazing, I could see the tiles on the other side, too. It was black and white, but really interesting and it lasted for a minute. Then the eyesight started to fade and it stopped. I can't control this, so I can't do it whenever I want to.

As for my dreams, their contents are done by aliens, that is what I can believe. I went out of my body few months ago while sleeping, but I think it was done by a UFO, and it was not natural. I was probably taken to an alien.

I watched parts of the video, in some cases when someone feels strange things (not able to wake up or feels to be paralized) is related to implants being inside the brain, and ghosts put them in as some kind of punishment. These implants can be easily taken out with a UFO. In all cases these disable the brain, and a person feels to be stupid among others. Also, beware, God will cut your nerves (he wants to cut everyone's nerves) because it is a command.

I had an out of body experiance once,I was slammed into walls and onto the floor,by some entity at a place I worked,and never do I ever want to experiance this again,my opinion careful in what you do,I LIKE STAYING WHERE i'M IN CONTROL

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
I had an out of body experiance once,I was slammed into walls and onto the floor,by some entity at a place I worked,and never do I ever want to experiance this again,my opinion careful in what you do,I LIKE STAYING WHERE i'M IN CONTROL

[IRONY] And you broke your spritual-enegry-neck and legs [/IRONY]

Your answer reminds me that, 1~2 weeks ago, i had some thoughts about how ridiculous the movie "Casper" is.

The producer of the movie assume that Ghost matter do behave like material things, and so the casper, in the movie, is slammed into walls and floor, his ghostly body is bent, twisted and turned as if it were pure material.

I mean, look: if they used reality as a model for making the movie, the movie would not be what it is, because the action part of it would fall away.
And what is an Action movie without action ? : Boring, right ?

What do i want to say with all this ?

The only place where you do not have controll is actually in your Material body. (the "why's" is a long story which i won't write down, here)
Why did happen what happened in your OBE experience ? : Because you mistook your spiritual body for the material body, and in that millisecond you wanted to take the control over, but by your wanting *1 and by resulting fear you gave the control away.

*1 [wanting to keep the controll]

You may not belive that this is so, because it sounds contradictory to your understanding, but if you continue to experiment with OBE's, one day you will recognize that it is true.
Think about that more, and you will recognize that the spiritual realm is different as the material realm. In spiritual you contradict material, because you are able to move through solid walls, which you can not do in material, with material body.

Iv just stumbled over this video:



hopefully it will be helpful to overcome the fears.