Air France Plane down

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by zorkthegreat

 

Who knows??? Maybe because the accident happened at night, local time?? How was the weather?? Was it possible for visual photos?

And the satellites, and assets.....full capabilities are classified, so...and they'd likely have to be re-tasked from other duties. One day was bloody well quick, based on your analogy.

Oh, yeah....one year to enter WWII? Study some history.

Your right I was wrong.

WW2
WW2 timeline

It was more than 1 year

Ah but you forget, it wasn't a world war until the mighty and glorious USA got involved, it was just a somewhat violent border scuffle between some backwater european states...











before someoene goes crazy about that post check where I am from then check you sense of humour...

Seems Air France received a bomb threat for a different flight days before this crash. Coincidence? With this new revelation I'm leaning towards terrorist action as the cause of the crash.

Air France received a bomb threat for a flight from Buenos Aires to Paris five days before a flight from Rio de Janeiro to the French capital went missing over the Atlantic Ocean, officials confirmed Wednesday.

Airline spokesperson Nicolas Petteau said that an Air France agency in Buenos Aires received an anonymous phone call on May 27 threatening Flight 415.

www.ctv.ca...

Short circuiting

Yeah this would cause that big time.

reply to post by TheComte


Sorry to disagree with you but if the aircraft was blown up by a terrorist bomb it wouldnt ahve had the time to transmit the error messages, and it seems like a bit of a ridiculous coincidence to have a bomb on board when your plane is already suffering pressurization loss and electronic faults..

Small mercys for the passengers I suppose if a bomb allowed them to blink out of existence instead of tumble at 500mph into the ocean or falling unconscious after falling out of the cabin and free-falling into it..

Originally posted by CloudySkye
reply to post by TheComte

 

Sorry to disagree with you but if the aircraft was blown up by a terrorist bomb it wouldnt ahve had the time to transmit the error messages, and it seems like a bit of a ridiculous coincidence to have a bomb on board when your plane is already suffering pressurization loss and electronic faults..

Small mercys for the passengers I suppose if a bomb allowed them to blink out of existence instead of tumble at 500mph into the ocean or falling unconscious after falling out of the cabin and free-falling into it..

Well that bogey man card came out again today when Obama was in the middle east. Who knows.

reply to post by zorkthegreat


Except it is a permanent phenomena and that it apparently hasn't affected every other flight that has flown through that area, including this same aircraft when it last made either the CDG-Sao Paolo or Sao Paolo-CDG journey, probably the day before it crashed..

Cargo manifest? Is there a cargo manifest? What was in that oil drum they found floating in the area?

Originally posted by CloudySkye
reply to post by zorkthegreat

 

Except it is a permanent phenomena and that it apparently hasn't affected every other flight that has flown through that area, including this same aircraft when it last made either the CDG-Sao Paolo or Sao Paolo-CDG journey, probably the day before it crashed..

Other flights reported more turbulence than usual for that area.

Oh and this phenomena is not "permenant" as in stable. It weakens and drifts and actually has showed polarity reversals.

[edit on 3-6-2009 by zorkthegreat]

Jelly beans, Cocaine, whatever you want, it wasn't explosive or flamable though else you wouldn't have found the drum...

reply to post by zorkthegreat


Sorry, zork.

Don't see how the SAA from Wikipedia would affect an airplane?

How high do you understand airplanes to fly?

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by zorkthegreat

 

Sorry, zork.

Don't see how the SAA from Wikipedia would affect an airplane?

How high do you understand airplanes to fly?

How strong and penetrating do you think solar radiation can go when there is no magnetic field pushing it away?

reply to post by zorkthegreat


It might drift and wobble and revers as muchas it likes but it didnt affect aircraft 30 minutes ahead, and IMHO that phenomena isn't capable of such a drastic change.

Originally posted by CloudySkye
Jelly beans, Cocaine, whatever you want, it wasn't explosive or flamable though else you wouldn't have found the drum...

Im not saying it was explosives but flights can and do carry non passenger items at times.

Is there a way to get the cargo manifest just like we can get ship cargo manifests?

Originally posted by wisdomnotemotion
Something real fishy about this Air France crash at Atlantic ocean.

1. New airliners are shielded from lightning damage. News going easy with "lightning" reason.

And they also have anti icing suystems in their fuel lines. Didn't stop that 777 from making a rather interesting landing at Heathrow. Similarly, planes aren't meant to lose both engines to geese, but it happened in January anyway.
In aviation (or anything, really) just because something is unlikely doesn't mean it's impossible. The probability might be 10^-6, but you would still expect it to happen eventually, in a million or so flights.

2. Look at the crash site survey area - it was too clean!

Not sure what you mean. If you mean it was too empty, well, planes disintegrate going from transonic sppeds down to near zero in virtually no distance, so not really surprising.

3. Not a single human body (or part) found out of the 228 passengers.

Well, see above. But add to that the fact that the creatures in the ocean like to, you know, eat.

Even when Titanic sank in cold harsh conditions, we still had survivors we still had dead bodies.

The Titanic didn't crash at about 500 knots, it was more like 20. It is only comparable by both occuring in the Atlantic.

Originally posted by CloudySkye
reply to post by zorkthegreat

 

It might drift and wobble and revers as muchas it likes but it didnt affect aircraft 30 minutes ahead, and IMHO that phenomena isn't capable of such a drastic change.

Neither did the storm. So why that flight?

reply to post by zorkthegreat


Solar radiation....on the night side of the planet, at the moment of the accident??

And, if you re-read the Wiki article....our magnetic field is just fine, thank-you-very-much! The anomalous nature of the VA Belts is that they drop to be a problem for spacecraft on certain orbital inclinations, and at hundreds of kilometers' altitude...NOT airplanes at 11 KM above the oceans!!!!

reply to post by zorkthegreat


Oh planes carry all sorts of junk when passengers are on board, particularly now that they make you declare your hold baggage in advance.

The manifest isn't likely to be made public unless the BEA actually decides that one of the causes is due to something that was being transported. That could take a very long time..

Unless you know the Air France staff or the Sao Paolo airport staff...

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by zorkthegreat

 

Solar radiation....on the night side of the planet, at the moment of the accident??

And, if you re-read the Wiki article....our magnetic field is just fine, thank-you-very-much! The anomalous nature of the VA Belts is that they drop to be a problem for spacecraft on certain orbital inclinations, and at hundreds of kilometers' altitude...NOT airplanes at 11 KM above the oceans!!!!

Its a process of elimination isn't it

reply to post by zorkthegreat


Storms and weather fronts ARE capable of very drastic change.. it is their very nature.