ATS Infiltrated?...By the Taliban, Extreme Muslims, and Communists!

You may be right but the enemy is sitting in your living room.

Most of these beliefs and ideas come straight from the MSM.

Look at what is playing every night on your TV and take a quick look at the movie marquee.

Come on. There is very little that an enemy can write here on ATS that can top the crap that is being pumped into our impressionable little brains every second of every day.

Fight the good fight but choose the right enemy.



[edit on 29-5-2009 by NightSkyeB4Dawn]

Well, you may have something there. i have on past occasions advocated the following theories from your op.

1. Alien adbuction and communicating with aliens. There being 4th or 5th dimension realities so that nothing can be seen as real.

2. A hollow moon or secret societies on the moon.

8. NWO, Reptillians, Annunaki, Indigo Children, etc being superior or ruling the world or even existing.

These seem very plausible too me, though you have basically ruined the beliefs as they actually stand with YOUR own perception of them. For instance, number one can be split into two seperate beliefs, though someone who believes in one may believe in the other.

Also this part of your list

10. We should become some form of communism, socialism, or anarchy. Things like lets all share everything or not work and let the machines do it for us.
11. We should expect the government to take care of us, and expect them to make life fair for all.
12. We should give up our weapons, our religion, the power of the majority.

is actually against the grain of ATS. The vast majority here do not believe these things are good at all. In fact, these are contradictory statements made on your part in relation to number eight on your list? How can many of us believe in the NWO being malevolent, and then believe the basic premise of the NWO is benevolent?

You sir, IMO have the not-so-hidden agenda. By the way, im Muslim.

love and peace





(this message approved by the Taliban)

even if somehow and i seriously doubt it, you are correct in you assumptions ATS isn't being forced upon anyone who posts/dwells here. Its all Voluntary.

you can choose to ignore this site and everything posted on it, no one is forcing you to be "manipulated"

reply to post by phi1618


I totally agree that no one is forcing us to be on here and I am free to go whenever I want. My point is more to discuss whether or not this is true, and if it is true then should I stay or try to help people keep from getting their brain scrambled by the Taliban, extreme Muslims, communists, etc.. It is important because if enough people fall victim to this insidious intentional draining of their mental capacity then they wont be able to defend themselve. If enough fall victim to this we could all go down, because if enough peoples minds get so open that their brains fall out then it could become mainstream. I think that is the intention of the enemy.


[edit on 5/29/2009 by justsomeboreddude]

reply to post by M157yD4wn


Thanks for posting. I just want to say that I in know way against Muslims in general. So I hope I didnt offend you. I am just against the ones that explode upon touching an American.

I see your point. So you say you have advocated some of the ideas in the past. Do you feel as though anyone who replied was pushing an agenda or trying to drive your beliefs more distant from realty?

[edit on 5/29/2009 by justsomeboreddude]

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
You just hate me because I appreciate Bush. What is wrong with liking Bush?

There's nothing wrong with liking Bush or with thinking he and Cheney were a good team and administration. What you have to realize is, on a site the likes of ATS, there exists a fair number of members whom have spent the last 8 years doing little more than picking apart each and every move, action, or decision made by the two - Bush & Cheney... right, wrong or indifferent.

Since the elections they now find themselves void a popularized target for aspersions .. hence their latching on like vultures to any opportunity which affords continuance of the same.

Again... right, wrong, or indifferent. It is what it is.

Me?
There are no Politics ... just as their is no Spoon.

Click here for more information.

reply to post by badmedia


How is it character assasination to ask if people think it could be possible that foreign agents have infiltrated ATS in order to make us throw out the last 200 years of science and by trying to divide the nation by promoting hate of the politicians and/or the American way of life?

How would you intepret someone hating all businesses other than there has to be a hidden agenda to say something that makes no sense. Where would we get the things we need to live without business?

It is just a theory I wanted to discuss with people. I am not saying it is true for sure... just that it is possbile. I think if you look around you will find that maybe I am on to something.

[edit on 5/29/2009 by justsomeboreddude]

Im a chinese muslim communist FBI agent, or am I. I imagine 95% including myself are people who think too much, have too much time on their hands and always looking for something new and exciting to happen

I dunno, I said I thought you were a troll and that was deleted for "name calling". But I guess it's not the same thing when someone creates a post claiming members are part of some conspiracy because of the topics the person doesn't agree with.

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by badmedia

 

How is it character assasination to ask if people think it could be possible that foreign agents have infiltrated ATS in order to make us throw out the last 200 years of science and by trying to divide the nation by promoting hate of the politicians and/or the American way of life?

Why the specific reference to the american way of life, arnt these people supposed to hate the WESTERN way of life? I feel your being very selfish in your statement, however, i struggle to see how you come to the conclusion that 'they' are trying to make us throw out 200 years of science when in fact science its self is 'throwing out' certain 200 year old 'scientific' perceptions and beliefs, this is what we might refer to as 'evolution' altho some feel that is a conspiracy too, lol. Politicians in their current form on the most part in the USA and UK including Europe bring about this hatred of them selves by their selves with their own actions, paying attention to politics should have brought that to your attention already if you are 'awake' as some say.

How would you intepret someone hating all businesses other than there has to be a hidden agenda to say something that makes no sense. Where would we get the things we need to live without business?

Well lets take it back a few thousand years, business as we know it in its capitalistic format did not exist, it was known as trade of goods and services, and to be fair it would be quite reasonable for us (in terms of benefiting our selves and not the so called 'elite') to take this step back in time and quash the globalist/capitalist/elitist society we life in today.

Many moons ago, long before any of our times there was a thing called hunting, which we could do freely without interference, since the dawn of monarchs (or at least where i life) this was interfered with where by which people had to pay taxes and such to use the land etc blah.

It is just a theory I wanted to discuss with people. I am not saying it is true for sure... just that it is possbile. I think if you look around you will find that maybe I am on to something.

Personaly the only thing i think your onto is the keys on your keyboard, this site has been around since not too long after the dawn of 'contemporary' internet, and these theories, topics and such listed in your OP have been around since long before the birth of this website or the coining of the term 'conspiracy theory', bare in mind the definition of conspiracy.

Good day.



[edit on 29-5-2009 by wotjaban meefo]

reply to post by woodwardjnr


Thanks for posting. You could be correct. That is what I used to believe, but then when you start to realize the extent of it and start to really ask the hard questions like why would any grown adult believe in some of these things...then it becomes more obvious. There must be something bigger behind this. Once you put it together into one giant puzzle you see how they relate. They all relate back to making people question their beliefs, believing something false, and pulling out the mental rug from people in order for them to not be able to recover. This is classic brainwashing technique. Just look it up.

[edit on 5/29/2009 by justsomeboreddude]

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
That is not evidence of blindly following the government. It is evidence of my gratitude to Bush and Cheney for their decision to protect us and not just roll over and let the Taliban take over because people are afraid somebody might get hurt in a war.

Hi Bored, i have just a few questions.

How do you feel you have become protected by the invasion of two countries one at least of which have no known ( despite what the Bush&cheney claimed) links to terrorist acts against the US? As for Afghanistan and the 'Taliban' ( who were not responsible for the attacks on 9-11) where is that proven connection to 9-11? Why are the FBI still not looking for OBL in relation to the 9-11 attacks?

Why fear the Taliban that could not even completely take over Afghanistan?

Also i agree with the other poster who pointed out that talking in the third person about yourself is a sign of mental illness.

Why?

I guess you wont believe that until someone makes a youtube video about it.You just hate me because I appreciate Bush. What is wrong with liking Bush?

Well lets get past the whole 'hate' thing as hating someone you don't know, have never met, is probably not a good sign either. I don't 'hate' people who think Bush did some good things but i do very much disagree with their 'analysis' ( as i think it's based on no more than fear&ignorance) as it was fed to them trough the media sources they happen to trust.

As for the question about what is wrong with Bush can i counter it by asking what is right about Bush? I mean he didn't even win the original election ( nor the second, in my opinion) so we really should not even be having this discussion and could have have been talking about how terrible Gore was/were and finding more common ground.

Keep derailing this thread because you disagree with my other thread. Your very actions show that this place very well could be infiltrated. Thanks for proving my point!

This might surprise you , as i sometimes does me, but people very often actually believe these 'crazy' things they are saying. Perhaps we can try something new and discuss why people believe in such very different things despite living next to each other and sharing very similar lives in general?

I mean how does it happen that some people believe that the invasions of two countries and deaths of more than a million Iraqi's were 'worth' it even if their unelected leaders could be proven to have ordered the attacks on 9-11?

Stellar

[edit on 29-5-2009 by StellarX]

The thing about all the topics, crazy ideas, fruitcake beliefs and "ALL" of it is that what we are doing is denying ignorance as ATS' motto states. In order to truly get to the truth and get to the bottom of all things we must examine every single view point and every single belief of each other. By eliminating all of these beliefs or proving them right or wrong we are one step closer to the truth for ourselves and for everyone else. As this process is examined and completed some people hang on to certain beliefs and others not so.

With the myriad of information floating on ATS and with the debates that occur, we are denying ignorance are we not?

This is the best way to find what is true or what is true for you. A collaborative effort to explain, prove or disprove, well, everything from every angle with people of all sorts of minds and histories.

reply to post by justsomeboreddude


Sorry, I wouldv'e paid more attention but I was captivated by the crossword in this weeks Pravda. . .



Seriously though, sure, you see these people all the time about every issue in our bill of rights or constitution. They will only gain strength when people stop questioning EVERYTHING. And I don't see that happening with the real folks on this site.

Just my opinion, or my 2 kopeks. . . er I mean cents. . .

What's really interesting is that a lot of posters on ATS will readily believe that the CIA, FBI, Mossad, etc have people posting here.


But when it comes to Chinese or Russian intelligence organizations, or Al Qaida, they think that they have no interest, or that ATS members can easily "smoke them out".

Just paving the way for my Chinese overlords.



[edit on 29-5-2009 by jerico65]

reply to post by badmedia


It is not that I disagree with them.. that is not the problem. There are lots of things I disagree with, and a lot I agree with. Everyone has opinions and we all know what they say about that.

Its really much deeper than that. It appears there is a concentrated effort to replace reality with fiction, and that is dangerous, especially if the enemy is a puppetmaster and you are just the puppet.

reply to post by wotjaban meefo

Why the specific reference to the american way of life, arnt these people supposed to hate the WESTERN way of life? I feel your being very selfish in your statement, however, i struggle to see how you come to the conclusion that 'they' are trying to make us throw out 200 years of science when in fact science its self is 'throwing out' certain 200 year old 'scientific' perceptions and beliefs, this is what we might refer to as 'evolution' altho some feel that is a conspiracy too, lol.

It is one thing to throw out 200 years of science for a better theory that is peer reviewed and tested. It is a whole other thing to throw out 200 years of science because of a youtube video or because someone posted their thoughts on a webpage. One is how science is supposed to work, and the other is the act of someone who lacks understanding. It is very dangerous in the hands of your enemies.

Like lets say I was some practical joker. I could create a youtube video saying I had invented Free Energy and convinced you that you needed to buy it or even worse made you think that the 1st law of thermodynamics is incorrect. I would have changed your beliefs based on a lie.

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by badmedia

 

Its really much deeper than that. It appears there is a concentrated effort to replace reality with fiction, and that is dangerous, especially if the enemy is a puppetmaster and you are just the puppet.

I really struggle to see your point of view here, certain theories presented in the your OP as i stated above have been around since you pooped your first poop, so am i to come to the conclusion that these guys have been at it for centuries?

As this line of though should really bring you into the globalist plan of disinformation and distraction, thus the 'Taliban, Extreme Muslims, and Communists!' are infact in on it together and doing all this for the 'NWO' as people say.