ATS Infiltrated?...By the Taliban, Extreme Muslims, and Communists!

I have been accused of being an agent of this or that during my time on ATS. I wondered why people would accuse me of that, when I have never thought that of others. Then I realized that they wouldnt have even thought like that unless THEY were an agent.

So I started to dig deeper and really look at the topics posted on ATS. I believe I have unconvered something sinister. ATS has been infiltrated by the enemies of the USA. It could be the Taliban, extreme Muslims, or Communist nations like China or former Soviet Republics whose citizens still hold on to their old beliefs.

You may ask, what is the purpose? The purpose is to divide us, and to try to make us dumber and lazier, and to shatter our ability to believe in anything.

Havent you ever wondered why someone would believe some of the things that are discussed here? You know things like:
1. Alien adbuction and communicating with aliens. There being 4th or 5th dimension realities or current time travel so that nothing can be seen as real.
2. A hollow moon or secret societies on the moon. PlanetX/Nibiru. People who say they believe John Lear and the livingmoon.com
3. The moon landing being a hoax. NASA hiding the truth.
4. The universe being a giant electric contraption, aka. the Electric Universe.
5. Over untiy devices.
6. Anti-gravity or tech in general being a product of alien technology exchange.
7. Rocks on the moon or mars that look like skulls or wreches or giant obelisks, etc..
8. NWO, Jews, Reptillians, Annunaki, Indigo Children, etc being superior or ruling the world or even existing.
9. We should never fight in a war, because war is evil, regardless of what someone did to you or may do to you. They want us to hate the very people who are here to protects us and believe 911 was a conspiracy
10. We should become some form of communism, socialism, or anarchy. Things like lets all share everything or not work and let the machines do it for us.
11. We should expect the government to take care of us, and expect them to make life fair for all.
12. We should give up our weapons, our religion, the power of the majority.

I could go on and on, but I figured I would stop at a DIRTY DOZEN!

Do you see what they are doing? They are organized to make us all dumb, lazy, and unable to defend ourselves or our nation.

I am not sure this is real or just my perception, but I think there is ample evidence of this occuring on ATS. I dont blame the owners or the mods as they cant really control content. How do we stand up and fight this attack on our minds? Do we just leave ATS or stand and fight the good fight?

You decide! Have we been infiltrated by our enemies who aim to divide and conquer us and make us weaker by pushing their radical or fantastical beliefs on us?

[edit on 5/29/2009 by justsomeboreddude]

Hey there. Interesting theory. You may have discovered something. I'm not so sure its a concerted effort to destroy our abilities to think critically. My own personal solution is to be aware of my bodily reactions when reading inflamatory or derogatory or unimaginable posts, opinions and such. I do rely on my intuition for most everything and am rewarded for that trust in myself.

Often there are agendas being played out here and that makes it interesting. So many people with so many diverging ideas is excellent entertainment. Sometimes I even learn something or become intrigued by something new. My internal guidance system is trustworthy, all I have to do is pay attention to it. That is my defense against possible agenda pushers.

Your mood is very fitting and no i dont think ATS has been inflitrated,many people hold the beliefs you mentioned and some just like a bit of escapism from the world and like to discuss such things even if they dont necessarily believe any of it.

reply to post by Hazelnut


Thanks for posting. I am not sure either. But when you start to really look at it then it jumps out at you. It appears to be a concerted effort to bring us down. Why would a guy spend 100's of hours looking through pics of Mars that NASA took looking for a rock that moved or looked like a skull or a structure? He is using the very thing he doesnt trust (NASA) to provide evidence to his theory. That must be some sort of plant.

reply to post by Solomons


Thanks for posting. Why would a person waste their time researching and posting info about something they dont believe in unless they were part of a group of people plotting a coordinated effort to attack our minds and make us foolish.

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
Have we been infiltrated by our enemies who aim to divide and conquer us and make us weaker by pushing their radical or fantastical beliefs on us?

since when do radical ideas (FYI. this simply means New ideas) or belief's in things contrary to what you believe in, mean that people are trying to conquer you or make you weaker?

Your logic defies all common sense in every way imaginable.

Your nickname suggests that you are bored so is this why you are posting this tripe?

You may have had a point but it got lost when you stated that new ideas and different views were tools used to infiltrate, divide and conquer "us"; whoever this "us" is, is not clear. Is it you and your bible group, a group of escaped mental patients?



If it wasn't for new ideas and different views, you would still be swinging from tree branches, throwing dung at your fellow pack-mates and eating each others ticks.



[edit on 29-5-2009 by warrenb]

reply to post by warrenb


Thanks for posting. I cant change my login name can I? I made it a long time ago and people like you use it to belittle my points. I am not saying that I against NEW ideas. I am saying that some people make ridiculous claims with no proof in order to dumb us down or get other people to belief in a ridiculous or unsustainable agenda.

For example, I stated once that planes hit the WTC and people replied that I cant believe everything I see on TV news. Well doesnt that also open up the possiblity that the JKF assasination, the shuttles blowing up, Reagan being shot, etc.. all being a conspiracy. See it is all just a ploy to make us believe there is no evil in the world or nothing bad happens.

[edit on 5/29/2009 by justsomeboreddude]

The Kernel noticed an influx of Chinese posters during the Olympics but that aside this is an international board and you will get opinions that differ from yours. This is a bad thing?

reply to post by justsomeboreddude


thank you for completely validating my point and at the same time invalidating your OP.

I do not know if you are serious or not. If you are - well there are a lot of people who are not US citizens, and some of them do hold ...hmmm.. not pro-American position. To say the least. But how do you know if they are agents??? This site is supposed to be not/anti-mainstream. Also this site is supposed to be conspiracy site, which means that there are a lot of semi-paranoid people here. I am sure that there is no person here that was not called agent of X or Y. So someone called you an agent. You think that calling all those who hold different opinion agents too is somehow better? So i think that taking it with a sense of humor is much more positive.
And this is why i question myself - maybe it is an irony and not real thread? It is hard to read irony on the net.
By the way, i am 100 percent sure that there is an attempt to hurt US inner stability and some conspiracy theories are one of tools. But it is not done by poster here or there on site that allows all opinions.

reply to post by Kernel Korn


I am open and I dont mind people disagreeing with me. In fact that can be a good thing at times. However, what I am talking about is a group of people trying to chip away at the foundating of rational or critical thought.

Originally posted by warrenb
You may have had a point but it got lost when you stated that new ideas and different views were tools used to infiltrate, divide and conquer "us"; whoever this "us" is, is not clear.

Are you purposefully being disingenuous?
The OP did not say that new ideas and different views are bad. He said that radical or extreme views are dangerous. Big difference and I'm sure you realized that but decided to put words in the OP's mouth in order for you to make a lame point. Come on, of course different views are good, but radical or extreme views which could cause harm to you or your country could be a problem.

Is it you and your bible group, a group of escaped mental patients?

Or it could be your local extreme liberal gathering or secular beliefs.

You decide! Have we been infiltrated by our enemies who aim to divide and conquer us and make us weaker by pushing their radical or fantastical beliefs on us?

Since there is the chance that ATS is part of the FBI's InfraGard program then they are at the right place to be monitored.

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by Kernel Korn

 

I am open and I dont mind people disagreeing with me. In fact that can be a good thing at times. However, what I am talking about is a group of people trying to chip away at the foundating of rational or critical thought.

Rational and critical thought.. meaning..?? Accepting the 'official' version? Following the status quo? Harboring ironically preposterous notions of infiltration?

/ponder

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by Kernel Korn

 

I am open and I dont mind people disagreeing with me.

Really? The Kernel must be thinking of someone else.

However, what I am talking about is a group of people trying to chip away at the foundating of rational or critical thought.

Now the Kernel knows you aren't serious. Since when did this board, especially the political forums, have any rational or critical thought? It's an insane pissing match. No one is thinking there. Just Googling any material they can find to show the other side in a bad light. That is NOT critical thinking. That's a developed mindset and an agenda. You want to think that ATS has been infiltrated you should look at those people first.

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge


I agree that not everyone is going to agree with the US, but people come here and fan the flames of discord. Plus, I wouldnt really think it was a conspiracy if it was just that, but when you look at it in totality it becomes clear. There is a plot to break down our belief systems in order to weaken us and make us defensless against attack or even critical thinking.

reply to post by roadgravel


you bring up a good point ... since ATS is most likely monitored by the government ...

to the OP why would these 'others' want to post here in that case?

People chipping away at rational or critical thought? Such as twisting words and sensationalizing? hmmmm....

Honestly, there are some VERY out there theories on here. There are also many (JFK assasination, 9/11, to name a couple) that have a TON of merit and if anything the facts debunk the official story and support the "conspiracy theories".

Truthfully, there are a handful of posters here who boarder on trolling, autmatically attacking any theory out there and the person who believes it. Those are far more likely the infiltrators than anyone else, if they are here.


You fall into that category, friend.

Course, I asked you in a previous thread who you were affilliated with, and you took that as me accusing you of being some sort of agent, so perhaps if you step back, remove emotion, and apply that logic and critical thought you speak of you'll see that not all those who ask questions are wrong.

Yes let's all sling out words like Al Queda, taliban and terrorist on ATS. That should solve all of our problems. Let's all agree together about everything or else risk being called a cyber hacker terrorist muslim extremist. I thought ATS was about denying ignorance. But what do I know? Maybe your a terrorist. Very fitting from someone who supports the NWO isn't it?

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
There is a plot to break down our belief systems in order to weaken us and make us defensless against attack or even critical thinking.

The Kernel believes it was Johhny Blaze that said, "You can't live in fear." This is ATS, not MSM. You should unplug. They've gotten to you.