Bilderberg Plan For Remaking the Global Political Economy 2009

It seems to me that regardless of their agenda and timetable, the Elite must do something about the guns. My feeling is they will not attempt to directly provoke gun owners into a collective response. Any theories on how they might go about this effort?

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Hasnt anyone wondered what is going on with Facebook? Why would the "board of directors of Facebook" go to a Bilderberg meeting.

I heard a rumor they may sell out private information.

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Yes, they will use back door gun control using ammo. DOD recently destroyed all brass for ammo. Something is drastically changing.

There has been mention of coded or serialized ammo, making reloading equiptment illegal, the shortage of available ammo.

If they cant get the guns they will go after the ammo! I do have a thread on this issue.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Excellent find, wonderworld.

The link provides some stunning insights...

This needs to be flagged.

T4H

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Thank you. I was quite surprised the Bilderbergs are coming out of hiding and to see there agenda. It seems like survival of the fittest. What about the rest of us I wonder?

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I have read about these proposals for limiting ammunition. I have had difficulty in obtaining ammo myself, but still have access. With the numbers of weapons and ammo purchased since the election (1.5b rounds + in 4th qtr 2008), don't you think that window of opportunity may have passed? My gun shop continues to do record levels of business and has good inventory. I have all I can reasonably store, as I am sure do many others. I think another approach may be needed.

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What I fear and suspect will eventually happen is our 2nd Amendment right will soon be replaced with a global treaty of some sort.

Similar to the one with Mexico but with more demanding results.

There are reasons that high ranking security officials were at the meeting including Homeland Security and others.

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Originally posted by DangerDeath
I've seen this video on Yutube, about Celente.
www.youtube.com...

His predictions are that America will become The First Undevelopt Nation of the World, then, tax revolt, revolution, etc.

Speaking of tax revolts. Have you all seen the article claiming that tax receipts by the IRS have fallen 34% this year? I can't imagine the folks in D.C. are pleased with that number. We are their ATM after all.

Now, in the light of the development of the New Great Game (discussed here: www.abovetopsecret.com...&addstar=1&on=6382913#pid6382913) this whole Great Game appears to be focused on Asian territory, but if what Celente predicts comes to be, the Asiatic Game can be just a huge false flag operation to hide the even worse reality about what awaits America in the near future!

There have been many that suggest an Asiatic Union to match the European Union, and what is to eventually be the American Union. The problem I see with this is the complete and utter hatred of each other over there. I was in the Middle East on a base where both the Japanese and Koreans were transiting through. I'm not sure what was said, or by whom, but the result was an all out brawl between the troops of those two countries. We responded to a huge area filled with troops in various stages of trauma. The point being, I just don't see how anyone would get the Asiatic nations to agree to form a Union in their present form.

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I agree. That said, enforcing compliance of 60-70 million gun owners brings us back to confrontation. If I look at the options available, it seems like direct action is inevitable. The Elites and their thugs have no idea of the onslaught they will face if that occurs.

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There is some talk of gun owners being right winged terrorists. Homeland Security has too much power for a single entity. I also heard they may be merging with national security, and eventually ATF.

We must also consider all of these new executive orders, that can be changed at any given time. It's hard to keep up with.

What do you think would work for them?

Originally posted by wonderworld
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Hasnt anyone wondered what is going on with Facebook? Why would the "board of directors of Facebook" go to a Bilderberg meeting.

I heard a rumor they may sell out private information.

I haven't been on Fecebook since Feb 07.

Why does that not surprise me that they're in this too.

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If and when they would move on gun owners, I believe it would be carried out like any other military operation. First, take out communications (telephone, cellular, internet, and TV), while rounding up leadership of militia groups, NRA, etc. After that, martial law with strict curfews followed by house to house searches or perhaps more dispicable methods of trading family members for guns, etc.

Originally posted by mrbarber
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If and when they would move on gun owners, I believe it would be carried out like any other military operation. First, take out communications (telephone, cellular, internet, and TV), while rounding up leadership of militia groups, NRA, etc. After that, martial law with strict curfews followed by house to house searches or perhaps more dispicable methods of trading family members for guns, etc.

This only if the central, federal authority is still authority in individual states.
Don't be so sure that local politicians will surrender all their power to the federal government.

We have seen many declarations of independence so far, and I don't think those are empty words. The faith in central government is not so strong, it's mostly propaganda and shoo shoo.

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I'm still trying to figure out how CEO's at facebook are connected to Bilderbergs. It's mind baffling.

I read another thread on here somewhere about facebook questionnaires that asked suspitious questions and assumed it was a way to find out about personal family things. Like do you own a gun, who did you vote for, do you store food, etc.

Not many would fill those out but I worry teenagers may unknowingly rat their families out by answering these personal questions.

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I think youre on to something.

What you describe reminds me of the Invasion of Kuwait, Congo, DRC, forcing an estimated 70,000 civilians from their homes, dragging kids in to their militia and killing those who get in its way.

Also horrific crimes were committed by government forces and their militia allies on a scale without comparison in the Darfur war, to list a few.

People is Free Countries such as ours think this sort of thing could Never happen on our soil but things are changing in the political world.

Wars are heating up, Bilerbergs are hard at work, we may be headed for hyperinflation, too much to list and happening at an alarming pace.

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I am not convinced, based on the mob tactics used by the Feds thus far in this Administration, whether they give a rats ass about the State's rights. If they will try to neutralize the 2nd Amendment, why not the 10th as well. Obama's methods behind the scenes appears to suggest that he sees the Presidency as a potential long term position. Federal funding to the States gives the Admin and the Congress considerable leverage with which to get the States to roll over and play ball. Push comes to shove they'll use whatever necessary intimidation and threats they have in their bag of tricks.

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Originally posted by wonderworld





A 10 year recession would damage Bilderberg industrialists? Get real what about the rest of the population?

A global labor department sounds somewhat fascist.

The ending result of meetings with the Global elite amount to nothing but trouble for all Global Citizens. Unreal!

The Bilerbergs are coming out just like the G20. What’s up?? There is nothing we can do about this??

This is not our government making the rules here. They can sign pacts with each other and we are clueless, as to what they involve.

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no there is nothing we can do.
If a group of likeminded individuals meet and discuss business options they should be allowed to do so.

If it were illegal, ATS would be as well.

you should look at a stockholders meeting sometime for any major corporation.
Id bet crazier sh** is discussed at a phillip morris stockholders meeting than at the bildergerg conference.

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There are already executive orders allowing then to take our food, guns, all posessions, if Martial law in enacted. FEMA also has too much power.

With all these states declaring sovereignty are you concerned at all about the comparison to the fall of the Soviet Union. I understand there were different factors involved. If it can happen to them why not us?

Is this what you were talking about?

Executive Order 10995: All communications media are to be seized by the Federal Government. Radio, TV, newspapers, CB, Ham, telephones, and the internet will be under federal control. Hence, the First Amendment will be suspended indefinitely.

Executive Order 10997: All electrical power, fuels, and all minerals well be seized by the federal government.

Executive Order 10998: All food resources, farms and farm equipment will be seized by the government. You will not be allowed to hoard food since this is regulated.

Executive Order 10999: All modes of transportation will go into government control. Any vehicle can be seized.

Executive Order 11000: All civilians can be used for work under federal supervision.

Executive Order 11490: Establishes presidential control over all US citizens, businesses, and churches in time of "emergency."

Executive Order 12919: Directs various Cabinet officials to be constantly ready to take over virtually all aspects of the US economy during a State of National Emergency at the direction of the president.

Executive Order 13010: Directs FEMA to take control over all government agencies in time of emergency. FEMA is under control of executive branch of the government.

Executive Order 12656: "ASSIGNMENT OF EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS RESPONSIBILITIES", "A national emergency is any occurrence, including natural disaster, military attack, technological emergency, or other emergency that seriously degrades or seriously threatens the national security of the United States. Policy for national security emergency preparedness shall be established by the President." This order includes federal takeover of all local law enforcement agencies, wage and price controls, prohibits you from moving assets in or out of the United States, creates a draft, controls all travel in and out of the United States, and much more.

Martial law can be declared due to natural disasters, Stock Market crash, no electricity, riots, biological attack, anything leading to the breakdown of law and order.

This is the part I fear and why was FEMA and Homeland Secrity at a Bilderberg meeting?? Something strange is going to happen. We are not close to the bottom of this recession yet.

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There are any number of scenarios that could trigger implementation of the Exec. Orders. What we need to do is determine which scenario best serves the power elites while transferring blame elsewhere. It could be N. Korea moving on the South, Isreal and Iran, collapse of the UK, which would likely result in a market crash here. A terrorist attack of significance in the US is another potential as well. The question is, which event will best serve the power base while deferring responsibility. Any ideas?

So most of us agree that something is about to change the way this world is run...so what do we do about it? Is there anything we can do but sit back, gather supplies for the coming shortages, and watch?

Honestly, all the discussions about the coming tide of woe...yet I have heard no one talk about how to prepare or prevent.

Is there anything we can do to prevent the looming disaster heading our way? I don't see any political party providing a true statesman to lead us away from this mess.

Sometimes I just feel like all hope is lost... I know that isn't true but I still feel that way.

I know information and communication is key to preparing... if thats all we have then I suppose we should be grateful.