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Kandinsky: Bauval and Hancock's 'Orion Theory' is unsupported by the Giza Plateau's position,
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
And I want to rehash an earlier post of mine that got little attention, which I honestly believe is a Hebrew referance to the Great Pyramid, and it's from a book called "the Revelation of Moses".
Most of the book goes on about the life of Adam and Eve, and when Adam dies, God burries him under a cernatin "three edged seal", so is should not be opened during "the six days" until the day of ressurection when "his rib returns to him". And like King David reveals for us in the Psalms of the Bible, one day for God is 1000 years for a man. And the Hebrew calendar counting years since the birth of Adam soon tipples 6000 years, 1000 years for each day God created, six days, an on the seventh he rested, the Sabbath, the prophecy of the Peace Millennium after which God returns from his resting place.
Anyway, under the same three cornered seal we should find two men, one young and one old, and one old woman. The old woman is Eve who died last of the three, the young man is Abel, whom Cain killed, and finally the old man would be Adam whom God created some 5770 years ago according to the Hebrew calendar. It is my sincere belief that God created the Great Pyramid. And I strongly believe they aren't as empty as they seem, and that there are rich tombs hidden inside containing the bodies of the Eden people. The building is just too damn perfect to have been constructed by humans IMO.
Originally posted by Outlawstar
I strongly disagree, come on, "built by God", Im assuming your reffering to the Biblical God, the murderer, promoter of war, rape and incest.........I sincerely doubt it, whatever this "God" was, I wnt nothing to do with him/it.......,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Its much more likely they were built by a race long forgotten in our modern memories, a race of supreme knowledge
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
One is certain, Orion or Sahu, was important to the ancient Egyptians, in that the constellation represented the soul or Ka (double) of Asar (Osiris), brother-husband of Isis, mother of Hor (Horus). It was the first the Egyptian Creator God Huhu created; his first breath produced Sahu or Orion and the last he created was Asar, son of Ra
(ra in Hebrew means evil, in ancient Egypt it meant sun), or Osiris.]\
Originally posted by Byrd
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
One is certain, Orion or Sahu, was important to the ancient Egyptians, in that the constellation represented the soul or Ka (double) of Asar (Osiris), brother-husband of Isis, mother of Hor (Horus). It was the first the Egyptian Creator God Huhu created; his first breath produced Sahu or Orion and the last he created was Asar, son of Ra
Uh, you might want to go reread the web page.
www.touregypt.net...
Hu was created last, Sahu was not as important as Sirius (not part of Orion) and Ra created Hu; not the other way around.
(ra in Hebrew means evil, in ancient Egypt it meant sun), or Osiris.]\
It's "rah" in Hebrew. Re in Egyptian, and Osiris is not the same as Re and was not the last created.
Haven't studied the Kabbalah, but have studied Egypt. Your source here was tweaking stuff to make it fit the idea they had -- I think you should mark it as "not terribly accurate" in your catalogs. There are better sites.
Rah or Ra, it sounds exactly the same.
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
Originally posted by Outlawstar
I strongly disagree, come on, "built by God", Im assuming your reffering to the Biblical God, the murderer, promoter of war, rape and incest.........I sincerely doubt it, whatever this "God" was, I wnt nothing to do with him/it.......,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Faith can move and build mountains. If the Pyramid contains the tomb of Adam it was built before the Great Flood. Adam was 930 years when he died, and the flood came about half a milennium later, something which can explain why the Great Pyramid was once covered in a water proof coating of white marble. These stones were later taken from the pyramid to build temples and other buildings. 144,000 blocks of white marble, sealed together in the joints to infact making the whole construction water proof.
- Murder: When did ever God kill anyone? And is it really that bad to kill someone when you have promised and is capable of and comitted to bring every person from Adam forward back to life?
- War: The wars of the Torah were already started, God just pierced through the enemies of his chosen nation's defences with his tactics, skill and power.
- Rape: Can't remember ever reading about God ever ordering rape.
- Incest: In the Law of Moses he strongly prohibits sexual relations between closely related people. But the Egyptian pantheon on the other side, is full of incestous relationships, and the pharaos and noblety in ancient Egypt followed their example, even into the Ptolemaic era.
Its much more likely they were built by a race long forgotten in our modern memories, a race of supreme knowledge
The story goes that God and his people came from the stars and Created our civilisation some 6000 years ago. Some of them mixed with the humans, but since we are not of the same race as the "sons of God" or the Anunaki, the "Travellers from the Stars", resulting in offspring showing extreme growth, gigantism and deformities called the Nephilim. They also mixed different species of animals making new species perhaps using advanced technology depicted and referanced to in ancient Vedic, Egyptian and Sumerian art and literature.
The proof is incontrovertible
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by Scott Creighton
The proof is incontrovertible
Those are fairly strong words and yet I'm still not convinced. The Orion-Giza theory hasn't developed from it's earlier incarnation other than to attach to itself numerous diagrams. Given the unanswered questions about said earlier incarnation, it becomes less interesting to follow. Naturally, it all hinges on 'advanced/lost civilizations' and that too is a McGuffin, a strawman to hang one's ideological hat upon.
I'm minded of a dog that chases its own tail. The observers know it is just a tail and the dog can't catch it. So why does the dog carry on? Why doesn't it understand this? It's simple...it's too busy chasing his own tail to notice
Originally posted by Outlawstar
Youll note I never said "God" did all of these things, I said he promoted ALL of them, yes ALL.
SC: The proof [of an Orion Belt influence at Giza] is incontrovertible
Kandinsky: Those are fairly strong words and yet I'm still not convinced.
Kandinsky: The Orion-Giza theory hasn't developed from it's earlier incarnation other than to attach to itself numerous diagrams. Given the unanswered questions about said earlier incarnation, it becomes less interesting to follow.
Kandinsky: Naturally, it all hinges on 'advanced/lost civilizations' and that too is a McGuffin, a strawman to hang one's ideological hat upon.
Kandinsky: I'm minded of a dog that chases its own tail. The observers know it is just a tail and the dog can't catch it. So why does the dog carry on? Why doesn't i understand this? It's simple...it's too busy chasing his own tail to notice
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by Neo Christian Mystic
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The water idea is unlikely due to the limited capacities of an 8"X8" channel combined with the problems of getting the water to the great height where the openings are located. Furthermore, the blocks aren't mortared and sealed. Any water poured down the shaft would see gravity pulling it through the gaps and cracks.
Originally posted by Scott Creighton
reply to post by Kandinsky
Hello Kandinsky,
Thank you for your reply.
SC: The proof [of an Orion Belt influence at Giza] is incontrovertible
Kandinsky: Those are fairly strong words and yet I'm still not convinced.
SC: Strong words as a result of strong evidence. This new evidence presented here might not convince you but it certainly does convince many others.
Kandinsky: The Orion-Giza theory hasn't developed from it's earlier incarnation other than to attach to itself numerous diagrams. Given the unanswered questions about said earlier incarnation, it becomes less interesting to follow.
SC: All of which rather neatly sidesteps actually dealing properly with the NEW evidence here which demonstrates - beyond reasonable doubt - an Orion's Belt influence at Giza both in the layout of the structures but - more crucially - in the actual base dimensions of the Gizamids. This new evidence also demonstrates how the so-called Queens are postioned and aligned to mimic the precessional min and max culminations of those very same stars and thereby, rather neatly, explaining the complete absence of such 'Queens'" structures at Khafre's tomb - a pharaoh who had more Queens than the other two Giza Kings combined. It shows how Menakure is aligned at 212* azimuth with its stellar counterpart - the Belt star, Mintaka - at 212* azimuth c.10,500BCE. Of course, this is all just nothing more than simple coincidence to you, isn't it? Surely you cannot really believe that? Surely you have a better rebuttal than simply saying you're "still not convinced"? It seems to me you do not actually want to be convinced. But that, of course, is entirely your choice.
There comes a time, Kandinsky, when coincidence must give way to conformity. Witrh this new evidence of an Orion influence at Giza we have more than surpassed that point.
Kandinsky: Naturally, it all hinges on 'advanced/lost civilizations' and that too is a McGuffin, a strawman to hang one's ideological hat upon.
SC: I don't understand your point here? Why is it not possible for the AE to have conceived of this? Why are you suggesting 'advanced/lost civilisations'? Are you seriously suggesting the AE could not have set out a straight line, create an angle of 45* or 90* or that they had no interest in the stars of the heavens? I think everything we know of the AE civilisation tells us quite emphatically that such a capability was well within the means of the AE - no lost civilisations required, thank you.
Kandinsky: I'm minded of a dog that chases its own tail. The observers know it is just a tail and the dog can't catch it. So why does the dog carry on? Why doesn't i understand this? It's simple...it's too busy chasing his own tail to notice
SC: This is actually a meaningless analogy but one that, neverthless, can cut both ways. Mainstream Egyptology is too busy chasing its own tail to have noticed that there is a much bigger picture going on at Giza - a narrative that has totally escaped them. Perhaps if they stopped chasing for a few moments, took said tail from their line of sight and seriously examined the evidence I have presented here (and evidence others have presented elsewhere) then they might perhaps begin to see the bigger picture themselves. And do not misunderstand what is being said here. No one is saying the Egyptologists are wrong in what they tell us about the AE civilisation. What most serious alternative writers/researchers are suggesting is that there exists a narrative that has been completely overlooked by mainstream Egyptology. It is a narrative that is inextricably linked to the AEs sense of their place in the cosmos and their reverance to that cosmos.
Regards,
Scott Creighton
All excellent points Scott and I agree for the most part...........except I genuinely dont believe that the Egyptians built the pyramids, it is a feat that was WAY out of even their league.
Outlawstar: All excellent points Scott and I agree for the most part...........except I genuinely dont believe that the Egyptians built the pyramids, it is a feat that was WAY out of even their league.