Asking The Universe--It Works

reply to post by Psychonaughty


Dis-info agents have many strategies to suck people into their little games. The proxy may or may not have been deleted, a skilled computer user could have done that himself, just to help out the illusion.

I am not saying the man is wrong in what his message was, I am simply saying that there is no ammount of will in the universe, and there would be a fundemental law that these beings, if they were pulling the string, to keep their very existance a complete secret.

He refused to ask questions because people needed to find things for themselves, so isn't him telling us that simply setting us back? If we have a need to be told or put in the righ direction, then you have automatically failed by the "Concentrate On Yourself" logic.

And it is about yourself, but at the same time it is not. It is realizing that everything around you is yourself, and the shaping of your reality, your path, your future is completely based on your ability to understand, interpret and mold your own reality.

~Keeper

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by Psychonaughty

 

Dis-info agents have many strategies to suck people into their little games. The proxy may or may not have been deleted, a skilled computer user could have done that himself, just to help out the illusion.

I am not saying the man is wrong in what his message was, I am simply saying that there is no ammount of will in the universe, and there would be a fundemental law that these beings, if they were pulling the string, to keep their very existance a complete secret.

He refused to ask questions because people needed to find things for themselves, so isn't him telling us that simply setting us back? If we have a need to be told or put in the righ direction, then you have automatically failed by the "Concentrate On Yourself" logic.

And it is about yourself, but at the same time it is not. It is realizing that everything around you is yourself, and the shaping of your reality, your path, your future is completely based on your ability to understand, interpret and mold your own reality.

~Keeper

Thats the whole point though, he/she explained it perfectly, only believe in yourself.

Everything is 1% truth and 99% perversions for it is exoverted forced onto you be it religion, literature, media, etc.... You must attract YOURSELF to knowledge for it is attracted to you.

I stated wrong in that whole point, as I interpreted it as interesting not true.

Truely though, this site gets on my nerves as I watch people so intangled in their media and conspiracies when truely it is them mass-conciousley creating the conspiracies to be authentic in this percieved reality through mass visualisation of a whole, make sense? (completely off topic).

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
reply to post by spellbound

 

you know its ok to get mad.. its really not our fault.. i mean look at it logicaly infact ill show you

We as a human race have this little thing called god.. we do not know how we got here or why correct?

we see pain and suffering in every way you can think is possible, then we have mathmatics that states "or assumes" we have infinity and dispensations.. and that is correct in a lot of ways..

You call me judgmental for what? for telling you that life is a function of the universe and god / it does not give a rats behind and that he is not coming to save you?

Well that is fine with me.. in fact i like the idea your even getting mad

But please look at our planet look at why its a mess

Do you understand the question you are asking? does our planet? hmm?

Human race? what race? i do not see anything close to a race i see manipulation of your mind

Take the time to sit and watch ants .. now that is a race.. do they ask why they are ants? does a tree ask why it is a tree?

The problem sir is the question

That is what binds us all together, and what are we to do about it ? argue over who has the right answer when we do not even know what question we are asking?

Now do you see my point? or am i being judgmental?

More patronising than judgemental. I will never trust anyone who claims that their knowledge is greater or more meaningful than anothers. In my opinion, your near death experience was PERSONAL and the message you received has no relevance to anyone else.

As for the planet; Earth is NOT A MESS. She is as she has always been, natural, beautiful awesome and alive (and in my opinion, sentient).

It is the world, the construct of man, that is in a mess. And that is the fault of humanity and not the ALL.

reply to post by spellbound sometimes it's the little things in life that mean alot my friend

reply to post by teapot

More patronising than judgemental

And going by the rest that is your own assessment ?

what makes your emotions different from mine?

And then you say earth is not a mess? only man? good for you

Just speaking is asking.

Originally posted by etherical waterwave
AFFIRMATIONS:

by speaking sentences knowing what is truth within. to affirmate say


I am god himself, you'll see you've been lying.

I am hungry, I am thirsty... the latter more

I've been very good lately POINT

I am enlightened?.

reply to post by etherical waterwave


never true word has been spoken

I wish to give you a star

Speaking is asking

how refreshing very very refreshing

Thanks a lot, I feel great !

There are many different things that can be asked of the universe.

As keeper I ask sometimes during meditation. Though during meditation I usually ask for information and visions, which I in turn call "akashic meditation".

If I would like to manifest something in the physical reality then I ask within physical reality, while thinking does work there are many more outlets available to the human, including speaking, writing, carving.

Drawing a scenario enters that drawing into the hologram of your locality and in turn with love it manifests.

These are the basics of magic, or magick as some call it.

reply to post by lowki


It has nothing to do with so called "majick". Magic implies that only certain people attain and use such a skill, which is not the case at all. It is simply synchronizing with cosmic energy to influence the flow of life within your own reality.

There is no need for rituals, for drawings or carvings, a simple verbal request is sufficient. The simple act of releasing the thought, gives it a much better chance of manifesting itself.

I can definetly see where you are coming from, however mixing pegan and wicken ideals into meditation or cosmic resonance is kind of pointless. The systems are vastly different in every way.

~Keeper

reply to post by tothetenthpower

It is simply synchronizing with cosmic energy to influence the flow of life within your own reality.

and on this we do agree.. why?

Because one does not ask, only understands.. you see be for you said god(s) and we do differ on this.

IT for me the "question" is god but he or it does not or is not aware just like us..

we are a reflection of creation "thats why people say we are it"

see to understand we live inside a physical question you can understand every question we ask we know the answer to it

even be for you asked it.. for its the very reason why life is here.. to answer a question

Its very complex i do admit but humilty and understanding that ones mind is real and so is the universe

you do not need to ask of IT just understand it and all your questions shall become clear and answered

for you only have one question

reply to post by tothetenthpower
Thanks eor your thread keeper,..i have read the posts and i am beginning to be a little more enlightened.

Up to a few months ago i belonged to a religion that taught that if you prayed to god by name ,and it was according to his will it was answered,i did i prayed about all kinds of diverse things and mostly got them answered.......then talking to members of other denominations i found they believed the same things regarding prayer often with the same results i am talking all kinds of gods Allah ,Jehovah Jesus,Buddha Mohamed, you name it (or should i say him)

There had to be another answer ,and i have been searching for it for some time your thread helps.

I have only just begun this jurney of discovery ,so once again thanks
illece

reply to post by tothetenthpower
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hi again keeper,
i don't know the first thing about meditation( nor it seems u2us)
haven't got the hang of either,will look on web to find a book on meditation,i take it there is more to meditation than thinking deeply about a subject and dwelling on that thought as my religion suggested.
thanks again

Ever read the Celestine Prophesy? In that book the universe is the guide that you have only to listen to find out where, who, what you are destined for. Also if unsure you simply ask and the answer comes to you or you go to the answer.


PG

reply to post by illece


Well I can definetly assist, here's a good place to get you started. I am sure you will find what you are looking for and this will be a good basis for that.

Chakra Meditation

Enjoy!

~Keeper

just because you know the sun will rise in the morning doesn’t make it rise

I started praying/asking (call it what you will) to the universe about 5 months ago, I got a 3 month contract in a job where I love working ( done 3 stints so far) the girl I was covering for the 3 months went to New Zealand, Australia and Thai Land

I asked the Universe for her to either meet the man of her dreams/or get a great job and want to stay there!

So that I would end up in permanent employment , EGO

At the same time my mother was praying to Allah, you name it, novena’s , mass every Sunday( does that any way)
Prayed her heart out,


the girl rings in, she might not get back to work, she hurt her elbow while away on holiday and her fingers are numb, serious typing in this job! Anyway she did come back

I left (still unemployed)

My sister accused my mum for praying too hard, so hard, she hurt the girl physically

Just let it be and don’t ask questions, then you will get the answers, but you won’t get them all here on this earth, we know nothing, we might feel we know something but its only the tip of the ice-berg

plant life, insects, animals, if it wasn’t for any of them we would not be here, that’s our problem, we don’t respect life, every little thing (even us) has a purpose,

we just don’t have all the answers yet! But its fun finding out,

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by lowki

 

It has nothing to do with so called "majick". Magic implies that only certain people attain and use such a skill, which is not the case at all.

That is completely false from my perspective as I believe everyone can and does magic.

It is simply synchronizing with cosmic energy to influence the flow of life within your own reality.

There is no need for rituals, for drawings or carvings, a simple verbal request is sufficient.

If you had read my post you would know that I mentioned the same thing.

The simple act of releasing the thought, gives it a much better chance of manifesting itself.

Well releasing the spell once it is casts allows the universe to know that you have completed casting it and so do not desire to make further modifications so fruition can ensue.
Much like if you plant a seed you need to leave it in the ground so it can grow on it's own time.

I can definetly see where you are coming from, however mixing pegan and wicken ideals

I am neither wican or pagan. You might call be spiritual or new age, but I've made up my own religion.
Lyra had great magicians and sorcerers -- manifesting things from thin air --, life was much simpler there than here.

into meditation or cosmic resonance is kind of pointless. The systems are vastly different in every way.
~Keeper

All can be united.
Where one sees differences others see similarities.

When I look at one in the universe, I know that at some point in the eternal present I am that.

We are surrounded by our ancestral heritage, fire, air, water, earth, fungi, plant and animal all of which we once incarnated as to get to this advanced level of existence.

Originally posted by pizzaguy
Ever read the Celestine Prophesy?

In that book the universe is the guide that you have only to listen to find out where, who, what you are destined for. Also if unsure you simply ask and the answer comes to you or you go to the answer.
PG

That's quite beautiful, I agree with that completely.
I have visions of where I might be in the future, and I ask sometimes for more info on particular topics, I find it always works, especially from within the stillness of meditation.

Sometimes akashic meditation is akin to channel surfing:
If I don't like it I change the channel or do some Metta meditation to get me into a good vibration/frequency/channel
If I like it I explore it in more in depth.

I is You for We are One.
All comes from nothing to everything we go, therein lies immortality.

reply to post by lowki

We are surrounded by our ancestral heritage, fire, air, water, earth, fungi, plant and animal all of which we once incarnated as to get to this advanced level of existence.

May i ask a question on this please.. What makes You different from fungi? or advanced?

fire air water and earth are elements but are all made from what? "atoms"..

Now about the plant and animal life and fungi .. there is a miss conception here that i would like to try and point out

All living things are the same "they work the same" its is the function of life to be here

humans have 2 main problems "ego" and lack of understand of how it was we came to be!

now.. who put animals here? "who cares"? do you care to look at our problem logical?

This is my point here.. we know for a fact things have order and systems but yet we seem to put humans in another class of "living" just because we are able to do what?

Tell me what it is that makes you so special ?

Nothing is what.. a Tree is a Tree because that is its function Humans are humans because that is OUR function

It does not matter who made us or were we come from or what new ages stuff you wish to enlighten yourself with

LIFE is the answer to one question

And we will never get the answer to that question EVER because if you ever did YOU WOULD BE IT

get it?

Originally posted by lowki
We are surrounded by our ancestral heritage, fire, air, water, earth, fungi, plant and animal all of which we once incarnated as to get to this advanced level of existence.

We may be on different paths, Lowki, but we seem to see the same destination:

1. — So did Nabu teach Ahatu of The Undifferentiated Power that was God, of the first creation as Hyle by virtue of the Holiest Sacrifice that by this sacred conversion God did become as matter, Chaos; to follow in just method the division and multiplication that created all elements, earth, air, fire and water, that God was still the very being of all things. 2. — In this Ahatu did wonder that God should be all things, as man, as beast, as Sol and Luna, as sky above and earth below, as water and wind. 3. — "What of our own mind?" did Ahatu ask. 4. — Nabu smiled, "God did become as evidence and create for purpose but man lives without wit of that divine way and yet is given free will to ponder the extreme forces that create and destroy and yet may both be praised as good and condemned as evil as your own priests would have it. 5. — Does not the light of Sol prompt the crop to grow yet burns and withers if unabated? Does not the rain bring succulence to the same crop and yet may feed the rivers to flood and kill? God has no mystery for those in harmony with the World that has become for in that world is the entirety of God as we may experience as man and woman. 6. — Let no man judge the work of the divine for it is in being that such work may be apparent and for this all praise must be given. 7. — All things may come to those that believe and see the way of God."

Originally posted by lowki
I is You for We are One.
All comes from nothing to everything we go, therein lies immortality.

So are the first three questions of the philosopher asked and answered.

What is the chief study of the Philosopher?
It is the investigations of the operations of Nature.

What may we learn from the operations of Nature?
We may understand that it is the beginning and end of all things.

What is the end of Nature?
God, Who is also the Beginning.

This is not a sermon, merely a demonstration that we may talk of different things but have the same objective.



[edit on 14-5-2009 by SugarCube]

reply to post by tothetenthpower


I have a few problems with you theory on how the Universe works. You saying that you ask for certain things everyday and the Universe provides on an average of 30% seems to me to be a misunderstanding. It makes more sense to believe that you yourself are subconciously providing / noticing these things happening.

For example, the car parking space. (mentioned somewhere on the first page). Do you honestly believe that it is reasonable to think that the Universe would provide you with something as trivial as a parking space, or nice weather? To what end? My friend, this Universe is cause and effect. Yes, I am drawing upon science, which is not fact I know, but looking at it yourself it makes common sense.

I believe it is more reasonable to believe this Universe is a place, a reality of PERFECT balance. Balance of positive and negative. (These being merely labels that we subjectively associate). It is a veil of soul making. You yourself learn through experience. You gain wisdom from learning from past mistakes. Mistakes are the misapplication of choice. You are your master, you do project your own reality, but what some people fail to realise, there is an objective reality as well.

This statistic of 30% is MORE LIKELY (I am not saying you are wrong, im just trying to say....its highly improbable and very arbritary) just you choosing to notice those things that you have asked for, and you have come to the conclusion of 30% because so far in your experience, it has just so come about that way.

Think of it this way. You are looking to buy a new car. You choose a new model, you think it looks sporty etc. However, when you are driving that said car, you notice more of them on the roads? Its all psychology, the subconcious mind. I highly suggest you read into this.

Moreover, I say that asking for these things and the Universe and/or Creator providing is arbritary because: if Hitler was to take this personal life philosophy, would you say that the Universe provided him with the right conditions for him to rise to a position of power within Germany, so that he could continue his eugenics etc? No.

This world (in my personal belief) is about you and I my friend. It is about learning from mistakes, as we are not perfect. To grow through learning, to appreciate our autonomy. To learn to Love in its highest form. Sure there are bad people out there, but then I feel there are many contributing reasons.

Instead of trying to ask a higher power (universe/creator) for things and they provide them out of the goodness of their wills, try living life in the moment with the personal philosophy of being "the best you can be" at all times.

I know its long winded, very sorry.

Brad