144,000 to be 'Taken' soon? July 11th 09?

Hey look, another post where a bunch of people get duped on abovetopsecret. How surprising. I guess we'll just have to wait until 2012 for the chosen to be lifted up into space with everyone else to join the planetary council.



Like, seriously. How do people keep getting fooled over and over again?

[edit on 14-7-2009 by CidCaldensfey]

here is my take on the 144,000....

Just a few things to ponder...read the notes in the description especially. Plus some people made some really good comments...

I suck at the embedding thing on here so link... VVV

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by prevenge


First why do you believe that it is a 144 000 people that will be taken away?

Revelation 7:3,4

And I heard the number of them which were sealed: [and there were] sealed an hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

I read this as:

1. A 100
2. And 40
3. And 4000

And when you add this up you get: 4140.

It only sounds like a 144 000 if you read it right of the text.

4140 sounds about right if you compare it to the Flood. When only Noah's family was saved. We give our self way to much credit on our believes and faith.



[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

reply to post by CidCaldensfey


Why dont you learn how to read.
This is in the opening post

"In this thread, we'll take the 'given' that the 144,000 actually exist and are going to be taken from Earth for 3.5 years. I'm not a 'believer' or a 'non-believer'... This isn't a 'prediction'...I'm just putting it out there hypothetically ...
..so just suspend your disbelief and go along with it for this discussion, thanks. "

It's funny finding this post as two things of signifigance did take place on July 7 2009. Firstly, a large sunspot seemed to have thrown a solar storm crashing into earth and Michael Jackson's funeral took place on that day. Just a thought....

agreed with you haha

[edit on 17-7-2009 by 2Unknown]

Just keep your eyes on President Obama and the coming dates of July 20-22, there will be a zionist summit in Israel and it is unclear what Obama is wanting to do about these settlements in Israel. Remember Bush made agreements with Olmert so if Obama decides to take an opposing stance we might know more by the 23rd. BTW July 11, 2010 I believe there is an eclipse and is also a blackjack date if I am not mistaken.
Also remember that NLE kicks off on July 27th so beware.

not sure if this is embedded or not, but here is the 144000 video...there is also one on the "cosen ones" and the 12 tribes of isreal etc...

reply to post by 12.21.12


I've a question and you might be just the person to answer it....

I've heard you mention (and I've thought it myself) that the 144,000 could be people associated with the 12 original bloodlines, ie the Illuminati and co.

So how does the 13th bloodline then fit into the equation as we know there are 13 bloodlines, not 12...one came later than the others didn't it ?

12 x 12 = 144 (the 144,000 ?) but 12 x 13 is 156 (would be 156,000)

Are the 13th bloodline known to be rejected in some way by the other 12 bloodlines and/or rejected by the gods themselves who put the 12 lines into place millenia ago....? And if so, why ? Or on the flip side, are they meant to be special in some way..........either way, why are they not part of the 144,000 (if we assume this number DOES correlate to the elite), which mirrors the 13th zodiac sign Ophiuchus NOT being part of the zodiac today..........


Anything you know that might help me understand this issue better would be appreciated

reply to post by cosmicpixie


Well I have a hard time with it myself but I believe that is why Davinci painted the last supper, because it not only describes what happened arguaeably with our calendar as well as the alleged lineage of Jesus Christ.

Now again this goes back to Caesars Julian Calendar and a similar story we often hear about Sumerian Gods who were appointed according to astrological prosession. If you ever heard about the Gods fighting each other for power.

Similarly the Illuminatti over all has the same goal, but it is divided in two factions. Today these factions are known as the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. Or as described in another thread from a while back remnants and shards.

Well Caesarion was the son of Caesar and Cleopatra and rightful heir to the crown, but then along came Mark Antony which would make the two twins and the other son half of the bloodline of Mark Antony and half of Cleopatra. It is unclear after that but if Caesarion had children with Selene I think that would make Mark Antonys bloodline the hidden hand, although since that time it is that bloodline which is often known as the morevingian line that became the most powerful and hidden.

either way, why are they not part of the 144,000 (if we assume this number DOES correlate to the elite), which mirrors the 13th zodiac sign Ophiuchus NOT being part of the zodiac today..........

reply to post by cosmicpixie


To better answer your question I wonder if the ruling elite had try to set themselves up to rule for multiple ages and keep the procession to themselves but that is some hard core speculation.

the actual quote from the bible isn't saying 144,000 will neccesarily be taken off this Earth. I think it is just saying that's about how many will survive the global disaster. and when you factor in how much room is in the underground bunkers spread out through the world. That sounds about right,.


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has anyone watched the video????

abotu those at the FREQUENCY of 144,000 will survive, not just or neccessarily UP to 144,000, it could be WAY more or WAY less...it is about the frequency...

Your energy, happiness, vibes etc... are they sucking the life out of everyone around you are energizing them?

there is a more tecnical explanation in the video comments, but this is the common sense one...

Good vibes=energy=life....

bad vibes=energy drain=death...

simple???

okay, apparently that link dosen't work so here is just the DIRECT one....lol...... third time a charm mabey?

www.youtube.com...

well the solar flares from the 7/7 ejection aren't to reach earth untill the 22nd... a day on which we'll experience the longest solar eclipse of the 21st century.
so says spaceweather.com...

the ejection leaves during a lunar eclipse..
and was hinted out by certain people's interpretations.. by the crop circles around that time..
and the sun's ejection is now reported to arrive during a solar eclipse
there was a lunar eclipse during christ's crucification.

From and including: Wednesday, July 22, 2009
To and including: Tuesday, January 1, 2013
It is 1260 days from the start date to the end date, end date included
Or 3 years, 5 months, 11 days including the end date
www.timeanddate.com...

interesting that it would land on the beginning of the new year.



all this while a massive impact on jupiter is reported exactly to the day.. 15 yrs after the last one was reported.

will jupiter become "lucifer" as per the "lucifer project" ? (google it)..
will this al ltie in with the dawn of the new second sun.. tying in with the birth of the new man?

i enjoy speculating.. hypothesizing on this so whatever naysayers.. you aren't even getting the point of what this thread is about.

remember.. this thread ... as has been pointed out over and over.. isn't a prediction thread.. it's a speculation thread.. i don't deal in predictions.

I've been ill with this for time my mind still a bit shattered so forgive me if this post is a bit messy but i seen on this site earlier you would like ppl experiencing this to post so i thought is better to try than not do it.

I been thinking for a while it could be to do with Source/God like other people have stated it has the crown of thorns thing and other stuff. I think is also to do with shaman if anyone is aware of how they have invisible threads and stuff. Obviously is a technological component too, maybe is to do with atlantean technology. I think Lumeria was more natural so maybe is like natural ways and technology coming together i think thats kinda in the celestine prophecy too. Tho these chemtraills and stuff seem to be causing more harm than good, but things aint always as they seem, in the qu'ran it says life comes from death.

I agree what people is saying is like freemasons stuff, nothing wrong with wanting to be free and build a house but best to build on firm foundations and not refuse the corner stone inni. I not sure what this 13th tribe thing mean, i keep see that number. Sometimes I wonder if is to do with Judas, i had paranoid schitzophrenia a lot before lived in a lot of fear i starting to wonder if i was a betrayer cos the only way i can fathom how i start to think about all this Yeshua/Jeasus stuff in the last couple of years is I could be one how the catholics say who knew Him before. I know when i was reading the qu'ran and it says about the ones who went astray i always thought that was relevant to me but more in the way about i always had like anarchist socialist type beliefs but didnt work hard enough to obtain it.

Though I see now the gnostics and book of Judas and Thomas is saying that it wasnt Satan who told Judas to betray Yeshua but was God and Judas realised who Yeshua was and where it from. Sometimes i think its like the time lords in doctor who maybe that is the Elohim who some say work for Source and others say is on the wrong side.

I cant fathom how i would be one of the 144,000 i mess my life up do a lot of drugs and stuff though in other ways i maybe not end up as bad as some people who do stuff like that. I hear a voice/thought in my head time ago saying your dirty evil and contaminated i believed it. I grateful cos shows the power of our minds. I hear someone saying about saints, lol i hardly that, but then again i hear the world is upside down and i read my numerology report a while ago i not recognise myself sounded really good.

If anyone knows about the legend of Culcullen the ulster warrior. He got sick with a wasting disease was given to him from a girl from a next planet and/or dimesion. She felt bad later , maybe was under a spell too, but in the end she comes back takes him to a next planet and he gets cured and helps save it. Is also something about an islan din it.

Theres a next video i saw on youtube about Saint Francis. says about he saw a leper, felt disgusted then remembered was a brutha in Christ too so put a gold coin in his hand . He rides of looks back sees it Yeshua/Jeasus in disguse. is maybe meaning spiritual alchemy inni. Also Saint Damien was with the lepers on an island. I had 2 important boyfriends in my life with those names. I think it would be useful if other people with this checked the syncronicitys in their lifes too.

I also think about these parasites and stuff i hear about drunk on the blood of the saints. Is in a bob marley song too about vampires sucking the blood of the sufferers. I think in a way some of these things in the morgellons are like dark spirits and stuff that suck energy. I cant get youtube up at the moment my pc messes up a lot, my phone is blatantly tapped and stuff, but way i figure i either with Source or cursed by Source so i need to try say something regardless of the inteference. Is a video on there from desteni channel about how Jesus and Adolf Hitler practiced forgiveness with the demons. Perhaps we meant to do something similar. I also hear Hitler was King SOlomon reincarnated. The Ra-law of one thing talks about how needed negative and positive energy for this ascension so it could be true.

Peace Out

It's 2011 and so far everyone has been wrong with time and dates, you know why?


Mark 13:32 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Unless you are God my suggestion to these false predictions is to not listen to them and secondly it is obvious a negative force is swaying people to go wrong so that they lose faith along with it as many duped people fall for it.

If you want to get Biblical leave out the dates don't be sure, that could be a false spirit trying to over come your faith so you fail. Stick to the rules of the Bible and you will not make your selves look so bad.

This goes to everyone.

Listen to the song

We're leaving together
But still it's farewell
And maybe we'll come back
To earth, who can tell?
I guess there is no one to blame
We're leaving ground
Will things ever be the same again?

It's the final countdown
The final countdown

Ohh
We're heading for Venus and still we stand tall
'Cause maybe they've seen us and welcome us all, yea
With so many light years to go and things to be found
(To be found)
I'm sure that we'll all miss her so
[ From: www.elyrics.net... ]

It's the final countdown
The final countdown
The final countdown
(The final countdown)
Ohh ho ohh

The final countdown, oh ho
It's the final countdown
The final countdown
The final countdown
(The final countdown)

Ohh
It's the final countdown
We're leaving together
The final countdown
We'll all miss her so
It's the final countdown
(The final countdown)
Ohh, it's the final countdown
Yea

even the final countdown song speak about it
and that we might get back to earth after

The 144,000 will rule with Christ and the Jehovah witnesses are not the ones to inherit it, you have to be Jewish who are the real witnesses of Jehovah, at the same time if their are more than 144,000 JWs then what happens to the rest of them who number 6.4 million? That is just based on that religion alone in what they believe about it.

The 144,000 will become Christ like, with Jesus as Lord of Lords and with multitutes of people who are saved aswell at the 7th seal.

Thier mission is different to anyone else, and it does not mean punishment for everyone else if they go first.

No need to worry.