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Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
if he is a christain, i would think that he would want to stand as our leader and and let other beleivers both dem & reps know that. and i would also think that others who are not christain, would respect the fact that he did.
Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
reply to post by Jadette
for me its the fact that he claims to be a christain, and then he will not stand up in front of his fellow beleivers and lead us in a prayer. every pres from 1952 has done this. is he telling us the truth or is he tring to be pc or is he affraid or is he a muslim. i dont know, i tend to beleive he is a muslim
if he is a christain, i would think that he would want to stand as our leader and and let other beleivers both dem & reps know that. and i would also think that others who are not christain, would respect the fact that he did.
you know the more i see this man and all the things he and the dem leaders in congress are tring to get passed in this country, i think that they be one of them.
You Know The Worlders
Originally posted by Miraj
The comments I refer to are where he points out that the bible instructs us to stone disobedient children
Originally posted by Bombeni
I agree with what you said and let me remind you that the majority, yeah that is right the majority, of Americans would agree with you so don't let a few atheists at ATS trip you up. You have to remember, this is ATS not mainstream America.
Originally posted by heliosprime
Obamas has never worshiped the God of Abraham, Issac, Moses, etc, etc...he only prays to his father "allah" who is satan.
Originally posted by AmericanDaughter
Obama says he's christian yet does way too many things that proves otherwise. He's a lier and a fraud, yes, I know it's a job requirement but he slaps us in the face with it all the time and we clap, some of us anyway.
Originally posted by Night Watchman
Originally posted by Bombeni
I agree with what you said and let me remind you that the majority, yeah that is right the majority, of Americans would agree with you so don't let a few atheists at ATS trip you up. You have to remember, this is ATS not mainstream America.
You are right. ATS is not mainstream America. So we can find something to agree on.
Now, sorry to disappoint you but I am a Christian and not an Atheist. But I must take issue with your claim that the majority of Americans agree with your view of Obama.
A Gallup Poll taken on 5/7/09 has Obama's approval rating at 69%. That is, by the way, 1% higher than his approval rating on 1/21/09.
www.gallup.com...
So, I think your claim of holding the majority opinion is quite inaccurate.
Originally posted by Night Watchman
Originally posted by Miraj
The comments I refer to are where he points out that the bible instructs us to stone disobedient children
And is he lying about that? Is there not a passage in the Old Testament that could be interpreted in that way?
The answer, by the way is, yes.
So are you upset the he exposed this to those who don't read the bible? Were we supposed to keep it a secret? If so, I didn't get that memo.
Originally posted by AmericanDaughter
reply to post by Night Watchman
Sure; imo, the list is long but here are a few:
Christian faith says
Deny me before man and I will deny you before The Father
don't kill
no other gods before me
don't bow down to man
not taking his presidential oath on the Bible
The just plain in your face Lieing he does whilst he finishes off America is not christian
his years and years at the rev right's America hating non christian church
the thugs/crooks he has assoiated with and the ones he 'appoints' isn't a christian thing to do
Every day here on ATS I see some accusation's and proof's of non christian things he does, although they aren't called that; it is what it is.
I'm sure many disagree with me but it's what I see.
Originally posted by Bombeni
Why oh why is he even going there?? Have other presidents chosing to take the Bible to task? I don't think so. My next question would be, has Obama publicly taken the Quran to task?
[edit on 7-5-2009 by Bombeni]
Originally posted by Bombeni
I should just be like most of the sheeple and watch ABC and MSNBC for anything of value.
Originally posted by AmericanDaughter
reply to post by Night Watchman
I didn't say he sinned and isn't forgiven!
You asked for the things I think make him not seem christian and I gave you a few.
You think he took his oath on the Bible? That was the time he messed up. He took the oath again, in private, no Bible or even a "so help me God"
voices.washingtonpost.com...
And so, at 7:35 p.m. today, according to the White House pool report, Roberts re-administered the oath in the Map Room of the White House.
"We decided it was so much fun -- " the first time, Obama joked while sitting on a couch.
Obama stood and walked over to make small talk with a reporter as Roberts donned his black robe.
"Are you ready to take the oath?" Roberts asked.
"I am, and we're going to do it very slowly," Obama replied.
Obama raised his right hand, leaving his left at his side.
Originally posted by XyZeR
Do you have any idea how this makes you look ?