Why a Left Brain society?

Right brained here also. I can make it spin both ways if I quickly look away and then back again staring at the foot sticking out.

I think people read too much into this as anyone for example can learn to draw, which is a trait predominantly connected with the right side of the brain.

Right Brain/ Left Brain Quiz
www.intelliscript.net...

www.learning-to-see.co.uk...

im right brain aswell so that means we all live in the less logical state of mind and use our imagination more and dont follow

Originally posted by seb2882
I need help LOL! There is NO WAY I can see it turn anti-clockwise! I tried to see it out of focus, focusing on several parts, I guess I have to stop seeing it tridimensionally, which I can't.

Try focusing on just the shadow at the bottom and slightly out of the corner of your eye. Also, imagine her spin axis is tilted away from you...worked for me.

I first saw the ballerina turning clockwise, but after concentrating I had her turning anti-clockwise.

Weird!

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It doesn't neccessarily mean that we are any less logical than anyone else. It means our creative/intuitive side is dominant to our logical side.

For example, I was in high honors math and science classes throught schooling and excelled. This of course takes a high deal of logic, but also uses the imagination, & spatial reasoning.

Originally posted by nerbot
Try focusing on just the shadow at the bottom and slightly out of the corner of your eye. Also, imagine her spin axis is tilted away from you...worked for me.

I first saw the ballerina turning clockwise, but after concentrating I had her turning anti-clockwise.

Weird!

This worked for me, I tried the other methods as well but they didn't work. I think the reason this works is that when you look at it from the corner of your eye, you miss all the little features like the nipples, hair and mouth - as soon as you have it in your vision you see that they are infact turning clockwise

Lets just be grateful we have a place to congregate instead of being burned at the stake

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Right brained too. And easily turned it counter clockwise and got it to spin, then it went clockwise again when I stubbornly tried to make it stop and stand still.
How do we know it isn't random and doesn't change randomly?

Right brainer here. But I can never seem to make her turn CCW like some of you did.

Maybe I would if I'm half-awake, seriously. I see things differently when I'm a bit sleepy. I confuse concave for a convex for example.

oops I deleted my own post...

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For those have trouble seeing the reverse of whatever you see try this. I originally saw it moving cw so I imagined looking at it from above then returning my imagination/vision to the side.

To make it spin ccw I imagined looking at her from underneath then refocus my imagination/vision to the center again.

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Just took the test. It says I am 12:1 right brain dominant.

Guess I am completely illogical!

I did feel a lot better when I read that Einstein, Isaac Newton, and Mozart were all right brain dominant though.

Originally posted by bsbray11

Originally posted by Welfhard
It's got nothing to do with mind control, and everything to do with statistics. It's more common for people to develop in a left brain capacity, in the same way it's more common for people to be right handed - just how it is.

Only in modern, technological society I would imagine. I think both hemispheres evolved the same size because they are supposed to have equal importance within the brain. There is no doubt in my mind that public schools perpetuate left-brain dominance.

Left brain is better at spacial awareness and other tasks useful to cavemen, hunting and survival. School does not polarize the brain to the left, dominance occurs before birth. I recently did a big study on this at uni for psych.

Here look at the wikipedia page.

A longitudinal fissure separates the human brain into two distinct cerebral hemispheres, connected by the corpus callosum. The sides resemble each other and each hemisphere's structure is generally mirrored by the other side. Yet despite the strong similarities, the functions of each cortical hemisphere are different.

Popular psychology tends to make broad and sometimes pseudoscientific generalizations about certain functions (e.g. logic, creativity) being lateral, that is, located in either the right or the left side of the brain. Researchers often criticize popular psychology for this, because the popular lateralizations often are distributed across both hemispheres, [1] although mental processing is divided between them.

While functions are lateralized, the lateralizations are functional trends, which differ across individuals and specific function. Short of having undergone a hemispherectomy (removal of a cerebral hemisphere), no one is a "left-brain only" or "right-brain only" person.

Brain function lateralization is evident in the phenomena of right- or left-handedness and of right or left ear preference, but a person's preferred hand is not a clear indication of the location of brain function. Although 95% of right-handed people have left-hemisphere dominance for language, only 18.8% of left-handed people have right-hemisphere dominance for language function. Additionally, 19.8% of the left-handed have bilateral language functions.[3] Even within various language functions (e.g., semantics, syntax, prosody), degree (and even hemisphere) of dominance may differ.

Wiki

You can stop worrying people, you are not being conditioned into drones.

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I'm not worried I'm being conditioned into a drone, I've just been a very left-brained person and I've recently started actively stimulating the right hemisphere of my brain though different exercises. And I was able to immediately notice a profound difference in my over-all mood and creative thought flow. It is definitely involved with more subtle processes, that analytic left-brains obviously have a hard time comprehending (totally different processing method, after all ), but I find it no less vital to have both halves of your brain functioning equally. Left-brain bias to me is no different than any other self-perpetuating bias in modern society.

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but I find it no less vital to have both halves of your brain functioning equally.

They both do. People don't seem to get that complicated systems like logic and creativity are global processes. The concept of "left brain" people and "right brain" people are not accurate. What people imagine left brains to be are just people whose personality is more logically based, and for 'right brain' more creativity based. This has in reality very little to do with ones physical brain.

Society needs some innovative people and lots of logical people for a constructive balance. It's like, you don't want a group of leaders, you want a leader to a group. The fact that innovation minded people are far less common than logical people is a show of that.

You actual brain is not lopsided, this whole rightbrain|leftbrain thing has become so strange, its been way way over complicated and generalised and is now meaningless.

on this subject it might be worth checking out the video on this thread

www.abovetopsecret.com...
a neuroscientist that talks about her stroke and having her left hemisphere turned off

its very good

its right on!

reply to post by 2theC


Yeah, here's that video:




She makes essentially the same case I make at the end, that people in general should learn to better use that other side of the brain.

I was never arguing that your brain becomes "lopsided," btw, but the number of connections to each neuron does have something to do with it. The more you use any part of your brain, the more regularly neurons pass signals along certain connections in that part of your brain, the "stronger" those connections become and signals pass along them more frequently. In enforces the thought-equivalent of "muscle memory" in a lot of ways (general patterns) and it shows in peoples' behaviors.

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It's not like people only have half of their brain available to them - its just a preference - left brain dominant feel more comfortable working out a plan and a solution, right dominant people feel more comfortable jumping in and dealing with whatever happens (for example).

This isn't to say that right dominant can't plan, or left dominant can't be spontaneous - it's more a matter of degree's - what makes you more comfortable most of the time.

I can't remember if I included the link - but a psychiatrist (or some other brain professional) wrote that one side or the other MUST be dominant, because in a crisis you don't want to be standing like a rabbit in the headlights while your brain fights itself. This doesn't mean you can't achieve a close balance - and some other sources I read said many people have preferred traits from both sides - they are analytical and planned, but creative and feeling.

My point was however, that we are born neutral - but learn to be predominately left sided. This contradicts the above poster who says he did a study on it - sorry, but I totally disagree with your conclusions, based on multiple sources and personal experience.

Also - I find it difficult to support purely from an evolutionary standpoint - I am not sure I see a survival advantage in being left over right - so I would expect to see equal representations at birth.

Our western education system is systemically planned to create left brained followers - and I think that it's a deliberate effort to make people in general easier to control, and ask less questions. (For the lefties out there - this is a pure generalization, by your very presence in these forums you display imagination, ability to question authority and intuitive thinking).

I've seen a number of posts from ATS users, who when trying to talk to friends or family about controversial ATS topics, report a glazed eye-roll type of response.

I think it's a special minority of people (like the ATS users) who deeply question the shared reality - especially the one presented by mainstream media or the government - and the responses on this thread tend to indicate a strong right side preference, in contrast to a population skewed to left brain dominance.

Right brained here, I also have ADD.

It took me around 2 minutes to make it turn anti-clockwise, and than about 45 seconds to turn it back to clockwise

Great thread


I watched the op dancer - I could see her spinning anti-clockwise (so I have left brain dominance - unlike the majority on here) but I could easily switch her direction.

This is an interesting topic when you consider autism

LINK

"Both gifted and autistic children tend to have skills that are based in the right brain – they typically have a larger right brain and are more likely to have anomalies in the left brain. Gifted or savant abilities typically occur in right brain skills such as art, music, and math. Deficits in these same children typically occur in the brain activities normally handled by the left brain such as language and social skills."

Sorry for bumping this thread again.

But I have a question. Does this have something to do with right-handed, left-handed persons?

I turned out right brainer in the tests and I'm also a left-handed person. Most people are left brainer and most people are right-handed.

Are they related?

I'm still 'tired' from being in the pub yesterday, she keeps changing direction. I don't understand, either she is turning clockwise or anti-clockwise.... Now my headache has just worsened...
Well I'm right... left.... I mean right..... no left .... no .... Yes I have a brain.


BB,
Sammy

EDIT to add: I'll never drink that much again

(Please always drink responsibly!)

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