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The Real Josh,

I spent my childhood frightened, climbing into my parents bed, sometimes even my brothers. I often felt someone was there in the night. But didn't know what was happening, didn't piece things together. Then I lost some of the fear, until recently, with another occurrence. This is very natural and our psyche has a hard time dealing with this, most either don't remember, or remember small amounts due to the nature and trauma. My 17 year old who has now had 2 episodes of missing time, and some brief memories, is very calm and non-fearful, but he's a little too passive about it for me. He's gentle, intelligent and a little too passive.

Hypnosis is something I debated about for some time, but in the end agreed with someone who told me not to let anyone into your mind, your subconscious, that they would have control. However, that being said, there are advantages to releasing the built up emotion and trauma that surrounds the negative event.

I had a strong emotional release when I saw et script, and it was very rough. I couldn't avoid hiding things in separate boxes, and they all came together at once. Then a few days later, we had the family siting of the craft, so it was almost like they meant to wake me/us up or that they simply knew we were??? Releasing the negative charge, and the trauma can be very helpful. Also, mediation and dream work.

Sometimes memories that are close to the surface, come up when you explore through other means. For me, I had some initial memories in boxes, but after a friend asked me to show him pictures of the greys, if there were any similar, and I was writing the few things I recalled, I had a release of emotions again, and deepening of the memories. Writing it down can help release both some memories but also some of the emotions that are pent up connected to them deeply. Another person was asking about the script, and where I would have encountered or learnt this, and I said it had to have been on the craft, perhaps a viewing screen? Well, things moved strongly in me, turbulence and I flashed on quite a few scenes that spanned my life from childhood to adulthood. I had to lie down I was so upset and let it wash over me, because there is so much discharge of feelings and fear.

[edit on 30-4-2009 by mystiq]

reply to post by The Real Josh


Josh hello.

I understand your fear i really do. It's very hard to deal with it took me a very long time to get used to the fear.

I have not dealt with it just got used to it. At one point i became an insomniac i would stay awake until it got light.

When you talk about the being's looking like computer generated or something i have the same feeling when i wake up.

But with me it's like im no longer in my room everything look's the same but there is something just not right. It's like im in some sort of re creation of my bedroom used to keep me calm.

It is very surreal to say the least.

For me there was some sort of deal that was made in the detail's of the deal i made it clear that i did not want to be aware that the abudction's were taking place and that i did not want to see the one's abducting me.

They have held upto this deal but i also made them aware that one day when i am ready i would like to meet them.

Maybe if you made such a deal your mind could be put at rest.

I dont think the being's who abduct me are evil as i know they have helped me and even saved my life.

And as they seem to understand my fear about seeing them and remembering being abducted is show's they have some respect for my personal well being.

As for hypnosis that idea really terrifies me for some reason.

Take care my freind.

Regards
Lee



[edit on 30-4-2009 by h3akalee]

Originally posted by lightchild
reply to post by n120by60w

 

[I recalled this under hypnosis in the 90's]
[In the future. If I do not place this before the statement I remember this from a normal memory of a conscience abduction.]

I didn't see any skin as it was quite dark in my room.
The hood was pulled right forward and the cloaks had long sleeves,
they felt woolen.
But I did feel it, the hand were long, thin, cool and yes leathery.

The one holding my hand spoke to me and the two others sort of mumbled in agreement.

A few days later I was visited by an Angel.

I had quite an experience with one of these little ones.
The others treated this one with (Awe) respect.
As you would from a priest or very high level person.
(Gandhi, Mother Tresa)
He had a very respected opinion.
Do not think he was an object of worship.
He was very highly thought of.
The only word I come up with is Holy.

I am trying to remain open to the fact that we all have jobs or tasks in life.
Without classing all the creature's of that type.
This one seamed to represent a priesthood though.

His robes looked Dingy grey brown.
Very Very Heavy woolen looking or natural fiber.
There was a Blackish 3.5" stripe along the front edges that came up to the hood.
There were symbols written vertically along the stripe.

The reason they keep there hoods up is because of their appearance.
Their entire head looks as if someone smashed it in from thier forhead.
Heavy Elephant leather looking brownish black skin.
At first I thought he was hert.
But this seemed normal for that kind of being.

I could see two ords on his mashed in forhead.
I tryed to make sence of it by thinking they were eyes.
But after dealing with him for a while I realized that it was just the skin over 2 large bulbed protrusions that formed the top of his forehead.
Where His face would be was just folds of the same skin.

When he spoke he normally kept his hands clasped together within the sleeves of his robes. When he walked he held his hands normally swinging at his side just as we would.

He looked kind of hunched over or as if he was looking at the floor as he walked or sat in a chair. Now thinking about it. The shape of his head being covered by the robe with account for this.

I had a large seance of respect for the creature.
He treated me with respect.
He not only asked me questions.
He reasoned with me.

All 6 other creatures would defir to him if they came into conflict.
As would I.
He delt with inproper conduct of me a others that were part of the panel of 7.

Maybe he was a Judge.
If I see him again I will ask.

The panel seamed to be trying to come to an agreement upon the questions they posed to me.

We can talk about the questions later after I get some stuff here at home cleared up.

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[edit on 4/30/2009 by n120by60w]

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[edit on 4/30/2009 by n120by60w]

reply to post by The Real Josh


Hi Josh,

Like h3akalee I too have stayed up many nights, but they are very patient and wait until you do sleep. I have moved house many times to try and run away, but this doesn't work either.

In the end I decided to confront my fears as ask them about it.
One night when I could hear that buzzing and I felt like I was being watched I asked them out aloud about the fear.
I'm sure we all would rather have them come round for afternoon tea and have things on more equal terms.

The answer was that part of the mission is for us to overcome our fears, they will push us to the limit until we are not affected by fear.
Fear limits us, stops us, holds us back, when we have no fear we are unstoppable!

I don't know any of you, but I am sure you are similar to me in that you are quite laid back, not a person for fuss or drama, you just quietly get on with life, perhaps even too quietly
I look back and now nothing scares, apart from if they are around, but even now I just resign myself to my fate. But in normal life I fear nothing.

The other thing they said is that they never seriously harm us, we maybe a bit shaken up and even have some cuts or bruises. But nothing that isn't healed within a couple of days.

reply to post by h3akalee

I dont think the being's who abduct me are evil as i know they have helped me and even saved my life.

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Thats interseting, I have had a few narrow scrapes, but walked away without a scratch.

I wonder if they stage them?

Do you fear death?

reply to post by n120by60w


Heyyy have you read my thread about wrinkly aliens?
I think I might have been seen same type of being on my vision. I remember that for me the being looked very deeply wrinkled around the eyes, that is the part of face I saw te best, the wrinkles were so deep that shadows were seen as the face was like litting with a dim candle light.
And maybe because of wrinkles and squinted eyes, wrinkly eyelids, I got a wise and a somehow gentle impression of it...

Follow is also the link to the representations I drew of it...they are not showing all the details, and they are just how I remember it. I didnt get a good look at his face. It was just a flash.

s719.photobucket.com...

Also I found these drawings of wrinkly alien that some other experiencer has seen

www.aliendoodles.com...

Did you felt this hooded alien was benevolent and had some real feelings? If so, have you ever thought how such a wise and spriritual looking being was a part of such slavering operations as abductions? how did he allowed it?

I have been thinking about my vision a lot, and a possible abduction, here is also a thread that I started about it...

www.abovetopsecret.com...


I'd like to hear more about your thoughts of this particular being...

[edit on 30-4-2009 by starlightbright]

I've been terrorized by them they are evil if you ask me. Their motives are a mystery to me and I've been abducted since childhood. It's crazy I'm told to type a series of characters in a console type panel. They make me listen to the same stupid thing, it's like a message relating to the characters I think but I have no clue what it means, but I know how. They examine me standing up, paying close attention to my neck and jaw. They talk to me but they are cold creatures with no emotions.

It sounds like something to do with their script. This is work that Jim Sparks had to do for years of his kidnappings. His interviews are on project camelot. I really liked his last interview with Bill Holden, however, and rather than negative they came across more neutral than that. Though its frightening. Recently when I felt they had that intent again, and my son ended up with missing time, as well there were wounds and things that I didn't look at, even though there was pain. My friend also went through the same thing at the same time, and he's had scoop marks and numerous signs for years. He said, his were discovered later as well, as if we're not supposed to look, even when it hurts.

Well, I felt fear, and I was so tired, though I'd said I wanted face to face contact, and don't want it done this way, when the realization came that it was going to happen, and I was kind of prepared, almost like another step had been reached. But I wanted to go to sleep so badly. I was being told in my mind that I was close, but that this was not without dangers, and was very traumatic to the human psyche. I went to sleep eagerly.

It was the script that brought it out in the open with me. So I wonder what the training is that some people have with that.

It's so strange, I never really know what the characters I enter into this console say but I know when its done and I know how to do it. I just wish I could figure out what purpose the entering in of that data is? Have any other people had to do something like that? They've had me do another really gross thing. They made me drink a really bitter watery drink. It was awful, but they looked and me and I was unable to vomit. I know that's gross, sorry.

I don't know what the purpose is, its really mysterious. Sparks had to spend years at this. I also saw a viewing screen, I thought it was in an enclosed room that sealed itself off somehow, doorless. This flashback was as an older child, and I didn't like the room being sealed like that, but I felt interested in and was concentrating on whatever I was doing. I wondered if that was related to the scripting at all, or why the scripting is done.

Thanks everybody for the responses. I have sort of felt that getting over the fear was a big part of their MO. And there have been moments where I'll tell myself that I'm "ready", almost ready to announce it to them, (I get the feeling that they are often listening somehow). As soon as the lights are off and everyone in the house is asleep, I quickly start to make it known that I wasn't actually committing to anything and that I do NOT want any of that.

During the day there is a sort of allure to it though, wanting to know. I do get the feeling that they are looking out; I have allot of health problems. Some I think are because of them, others I think are kept in check by them. If not them, then by someone. As said above, I too have had some pretty close calls. NDE's and all.

So I don't necessarily think their intent is to cause harm. I've never felt that; plus I always end up okay. Again, like mentioned above, they seem to respect certain conditions you present to them within a certain extent. (I've made deals with them too about not remembering things). Fear doesn't listen to that logic though.

Once they set up some kind of a display for me with a bunch of muppet like creatures in my bedroom. They were having a party. I looked around and said that it wasn't real. They were obviously "faking it".

At that point they peeled back muppet masks and presented themselves as what I am more familiar with. They weren't gray though, they were bright white. A larger one sort of scooted/floated into my field of view and reached down towards me; I was crying hysterically. The tall one looked down and said, "You're not ready". Then I woke up in bed sitting straight up like it just happened 2 seconds ago.

Ever since I've been bothered by that "you're not ready" bit. I mean, I WANT to know, I've felt freaking LOVE from them. It's like being fascinated with fire, but getting burned by playing with it. I feel like they either are a big part of the puzzle of life, or that they at least know whatever it is that I'm looking for. I told them once that I want to be in-charge of my own spiritual development, that I do not want or need them for anything and they should leave me alone. They didn't really listen to that, but deep down maybe I didn't mean it.

I'm going to look into the hypnosis.

Originally posted by officer_010
They made me drink a really bitter watery drink. It was awful, but they looked and me and I was unable to vomit. I know that's gross, sorry.

I've read about other people being told to drink a bitter fluid. I think it was that author guy of Communion (Whitley Streiber?) who said that they made a big deal about him drinking a bitter white fluid. That it seemed to contain some kind of information and that he has been asked to drink it on occasion throughout his life. I might be getting the details mixed up on that though...

Originally posted by n120by60w

Originally posted by one4all
In all of your experiences,did you see anyone wearing tight fitting jumpsuit style BLUE military uniforms?

Did they have an insignia on the shoulders?

Originally posted by one4all
Or any long flowing white robes much like Jesus would have worn?Or little hooded dark colored robes,kind of dirty if you will[no offense intended]?

Did it have any different color along the front?
Or Symbols?

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Watcher

A very interesting thread which has kept me up very late....

Please can you folks have a look at the small hooded figure in the picture in the link.....

i9.photobucket.com...

It was subject of one of the threads on Freemasonry here at ATS a couple of months ago. the image stuck with me and your descriptions of the entity prompted me to make the post. Sorry if it is in no way connected but I would like to hear any thoughts on it,

PEACE,
RK.

The watery stuff they had me drink was clear, it was really gross. You keep talking about a script, what do you mean? I'm sorry for my ignorance I've only recently been open bout all of this.

Reply to lightchild

Do you fear death?


In all honesty no i dont fear death. Infact i have a strange gutt feeling that i will live for a very long time.

I have an even stronger feeling that i am going to experiance a very special event and be part of it.

It's very hard to explain.

Some event's in my life that i could and should have died or been in great peril that i walked away from are as follow's.

I was involved in a serious car accident as a child i was about nine year's old. I was on the motorway and a car slammed on infront my dad he swerved the car to miss the vehicle infront.

This is the point where i went into what felt like a dream. Everything went white and time slowed down. I compare this white light and strange dream like sensation to my first abudction.

The rest of this information came from my dad.

A lorry smashed into my side as full speed.

This knocked me and my dad and the car off a the motorway and down a huge embankment. the car was crushed like a sardine can and my leg's were crushed in the metal and i could not get out.

Now i remember snapping out of it.

I saw a women in a blue dress she walked over to me and held my hand and told me i was going to be fine.

The emergency services arrived cut me out of the car and took me to hospital they were very concered about my condition when they saw the car.

However when i got to the hospital i was scanned and x rayed there were no broken bone's at all.

All i had was a gash that needed stitches on the rear left of my head.

My dad only had a small scratch behind his ear.

I asked my dad about the lady in the blue dress he was lost for word's and he explained there was nobody there.

Fourteen year's later i was involved in another car crash this time with me at the wheel i lost control going around a corner the road surface had oil on it from a bus that drove the local route.

I went into a concrete lamp post that fell down onto the top of my car.

I again experianced this loss of time and again the only wound i had was on the rear left side of my head.

The odd thing about it was that the car was a right hand drive and my head went thru the window to my right.

Yet the scare was on the left side in the same identical place as fourteen year's previous.

There was nothing wrong with the right side of my head. I even tried winding the window up thinking it must have been down in the confusion.

bahahahahah the car was a real mess.

In Iraq i had many many scrapes and lucky escape's but it was only when i got home that i realised and remembered them in detail.

When your in a place like that doing your job your brain adjust's and it seem's very normal.

It's only when you get home and have time to adjust that you realise how close you came.

A strange metalic item appeared when i was over there. it was a blob of what looked like silver. It had what i can only describe as an angel on it and on the back in capital's it had the word strength written on it.

I can not account for where this item came from but it did give me strength.

I am not religious at all but this item was very special to me.

I gave it to my girlfreind's sister when my nephew passed away and she placed it with his ashes so i dont have any picture's of it im afraid.

There is only one time where i could consider that they actually staged something. But i am not certain and would tread very carefully if i ever explained it.

I would not be willing to post it here because if i was wrong in my assumption's it would be a very wrong thing to say indeed.

Take care.

Regards
Lee




[edit on 1-5-2009 by h3akalee]

Thats the reason I asked, because I walked away from 100mph car crash, with just a bit of concussion. My brakes failed and the garage couldn't understand why.

Another time I was in a light aircraft and the controls jammed and it nearly crashed, again no reason was found.

So do they try and kill us to scare us or are these genuine accidents and they are saving us, if so what for?

We are

going to experiance a very special event and be part of it.

it's just frustrating not knowing what it is, although it seems so close that we can nearly touch it!

I'm pretty sure the liquid has something to do with our adding to or enhancing bodys natural composition,this enables them to transport us in their [gravity]beams.It may also have something to do with allowing us to travel in their ships.

I dont remember if it was clear or not but I do remember I DID NOT WANT TO DRINK IT.

And the cup was pretty big for a seven year old.

Originally posted by lightchild
Thats the reason I asked, because I walked away from 100mph car crash, with just a bit of concussion. My brakes failed and the garage couldn't understand why.

Another time I was in a light aircraft and the controls jammed and it nearly crashed, again no reason was found.

So do they try and kill us to scare us or are these genuine accidents and they are saving us, if so what for?

We are

going to experiance a very special event and be part of it.

it's just frustrating not knowing what it is, although it seems so close that we can nearly touch it!

We might want to start another thread on this subject.

But until then.

Ever notice how you have incredible things happen to you & you get out without a scratch?

Maybe we are shepherded threw life.
We exist within our own bubble until our life experiance is complete.

This might mean that they might be assisting us in this some how.
A "Dark City" type of experience.

Kinda has a ring doesn't it.

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I didn't want to drink it either, they've have me drink it many times. It's always nasty but worse has happened.

Officer,What happened AFTER you drank it?

Do you remember exactly who?made you drink it?

Were you ever taken from your home?

More importantly do you ever remember BEING SENT HOME AFTER AN ABDUCTION?

Do you recall any light beams and if so what color was it?

Do you have any scoop marks on your left leg?

Have you ever had your left leg x-rayed?

Were there ever cattle mutilations in an area you lived in when you were around seven?Google it now because A LOT OF INFO has been added to the net lately.

Are there any or A LOT of people who have accomplished WORLD CLASS ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT VAULT THEM ABOVE THEIR PEERS IN WHATEVER CAREER THEY CHOOSE from YOUR AREA YOU GREW UP IN?
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