Serious - Abductee Chat forum

Well

Over the last few years I have been searching for a site that might allow us to create a abductee create a abductee chat forum.

I looked at black vault & many others.

I would like to try one here.

Feel free to speak your mind.

I have a little experience.
I am over 50 years old.
I have nothing to gain by this; buy I do have perspective.
I know there a lot of Abductee's that feel that they have no where to go.

I can speak as one that has been threw a group abduction while I was in the US Air Force Stationed at Holloman AFB in New Mexico in the 1970's.

I have had more experiences with & without my family periodically ever sence.
These are not wakeing up from sleep events.
They have been in the after noon & at night.
But in each event I have been allowed to actively take part more & more over time.

Durring abuctions
I have been allowed to speak on my own at times.
I have been asked to voice my opinions on the questions
that the abductors I had were posed to me.

I have been been threw the bunny hole to speak.
With some experience's under my belt I am open to questions or speculation posed by other abductee's & those interested in investigating the truth out for themselves.

I am interested in the techinal aspects of what I & others have been threw.
I am interested in assisting others come to terms with there experances.
I am not interested in bashing your beliefs or you bashing mine.
The ball is in your court.

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Hopefully -- Watcher

Can you tell me what were the questions when "they" allowed you to state your opinion ?
Can you describe the method "they" used to abduct you?
Have you done an X-ray scan?

I dont want to discredit you.
Im just curious.
By the way what is the meaning of the 1 and 0 are they binary message?

[edit on 23-4-2009 by defiler]

reply to post by n120by60w


I know what you're saying, but no matter what forum you post in, the disinfo crew is going to swoop in and take over the place.

Then the disinfo crew will start to outnumber the OP by 3 to 1, on an abductee alternative website, and how could you possibly have a decent fact finding conversation about them Aliens? Is it even possible anymore??

Originally posted by defiler
Can you tell me what were the questions when "they" allowed you to state your opinion ?[edit on 23-4-2009 by defiler]

They quizzed many things & events.

They always came back to my opion on "Are they (public) ready"?
In response.
I always argued - "Yes they are ready."

Another non human argued that they are not ready.
His opion was intolerance.
Humans were something to be equated in the way
that we would think of Bug's place in our world.

I did & still do not like that creature.

Originally posted by defiler
Can you describe the method "they" used to abduct you?
[edit on 23-4-2009 by defiler]

#1 Well the big one in New Mexico was quit overt.
They simply flew down a 1 mile wide 100 mile or so corridor from El Paso to Alamorgdo airspace. They ended up directly over head. Full sun dinner tiime. We lost time on that one. We were less than 75' or so below it as it came to rest overhead in silence.

A small orb apeared - Thats the last thing I remember without the aid of hypnosis. I will not burdon you with that stuff.

#2 - Other abductions have had percusor events.
- Some had Phisical Objects used.
- One completely enveloped the house
& everything in a blueish green light.

Originally posted by defiler
Have you done an X-ray scan?
[edit on 23-4-2009 by defiler]

I understand your interest.
I am king of the scan.
I had early CT Scans.
I have had extensive MRI & CT scans after wards over the years.

The first I had been haveing migrans.
It was after the service & used the old contrast dye.
The CT scans were just before & after my flashbacks started.

I was a Computer tech so many of the personnel knew me.
One tech gave me a unaltered copy of my early scans.
It was much more interesting then the copy's than the copy's
I had seen & been given when I requested them myself.
The originals had detail that the ones they provided directly to me.

It had lead to a removal of a foreign object in my nasal passage.
The migraines stopped immediately.
I have had none seance.

I got a good look at it.
Round Dime sized.
It had a pattern on the edge of a gum inner rapper. (VVVVVVV)
It was bone white but perfectly shaped.

The Dr. was hollowing out the nasil cavity with an all but crome chissel.
He hit the spot. (Yowie !!!)
"Go back" I said
He felt around for a second until he was right on it.
That's it. I said
This thing he said as he pushed down on it.
Ahhhh I said
Then he hit it chissel with a hammer & it was like some one took a bag of cement off my back.
You got it! I exclaimed.
He reached in with some long silver tweesters & removed the object that I discribed earlier.
He said doing so. "Hmm thats strange.'

Originally posted by defiler

By the way what is the meaning of the 1 and 0 are they binary message?

[edit on 23-4-2009 by defiler]

It is my handle for now.
If it is important I will explain it someday.
For now its for me....

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I have willingly spoken the truth.
The risk is mine not yours.
Make sure you meter your response's with the same respect that I am giving you --- Watcher

very interesting post. What did the doctor do with the object in your nose?

Im curious to know, do these entities care about us as a race? Can I summon one to me?

Originally posted by n120by60w
Well

Over the last few years I have been searching for a site that might allow us to create a abductee create a abductee chat forum.

I looked at black vault & many others.

I would like to try one here.

Feel free to speak your mind.

I have a little experience.
I am over 50 years old.
I have nothing to gain by this; buy I do have perspective.
I know there a lot of Abductee's that feel that they have no where to go.

I can speak as one that has been threw a group abduction while I was in the US Air Force Stationed at Holloman AFB in New Mexico in the 1970's.

I have had more experiences with & without my family periodically ever sence.
These are not wakeing up from sleep events.
They have been in the after noon & at night.
But in each event I have been allowed to actively take part more & more over time.

Durring abuctions
I have been allowed to speak on my own at times.
I have been asked to voice my opinions on the questions
that the abductors I had were posed to me.

I have been been threw the bunny hole to speak.
With some experience's under my belt I am open to questions or speculation posed by other abductee's & those interested in investigating the truth out for themselves.

I am interested in the techinal aspects of what I & others have been threw.
I am interested in assisting others come to terms with there experances.
I am not interested in bashing your beliefs or you bashing mine.
The ball is in your court.

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Hopefully -- Watcher

Greetings n120by60w,

Thank you for sharing and I am in total support of this forum...Great initiative on your part! First and foremost let me just start off by saying that I am a big believer in the exploration and truth of UFO/ETs.

Although I have never personally seen a UFO (I've seen unexplainable things, but none that I would consider to not be from this world) or had contact with an ET.

However, please know that I am also not in here to be a discrediter, judger, or rubber-necker either, Let's just say that as a writer, I have spent the last year researching and studying anything and everything concerning ETs, UFOs, 2012, Planet X, remote viewing, Illuminati, Reptilians...and the list goes on and on.

Now from this research, that I ended up not only having a tremendous passion for, but I couldn't help but feel that a lot of the ideologies, prophecies, what have you, had a lot of connections and plausibilities.

Now I will profess that there are also a lot of things that I find to be ridiculous and unbelievable as well. Let's just say I like to take everything with a grain of salt

So, and sorry for rambling, but n120by60w if you would be so kind as to answer two questions for me:

1. Are you only interested in other contactees/abductees contributing in this forum, or are you also open to posters like myself (seeker of truth) in asking relevant questions to your experiences? If you're not, I will totally respect your wishes and not post in here.

2. During your experiences, have you ever been given insight to our (planet earth) future? The reason I ask is because I intuitively believe that we are about to experience major changes in our beings, our world, our universe. I have had some incredible synchronicities happen to me recently, and I don't know it's very hard to explain, almost like a sixth sense.

Anyways, once again thanks for the forum, big

Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
What did the doctor do with the object in your nose?

At the time I had not had a flashback of the original USAF abduction experiance.

I was just trying to get rid of the Mygranes.

It did...

The Dr after removing it looked at it on from both sides by turning his wrist.
Then said Interresting
He then dropped it to the table that he was picking up his tools from.
I never saw it again.

I know!!
From my prospective now.
Take it....
I was clueless at the time.

But....

Small metal shards came out of my hands threw out the years I was experiencing the abductions. I have kept one in a bottle as a souvenir.

If you are looking for things left after these abductions that's another question is it not....

Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
Im curious to know, do these entities care about us as a race?

I was exposed to 7 races as diffrent as a shrimp & monkey.
Its a long subject that cant be just graised upon lightly.

We would need to brake them down to byte sized chunks so to say to cover all of them. (Nurd joke)

Each Representative of the races had there own views of things.
Each had his own job as you might expect.
That also is another question.
I am trying to stay on topic.

They are no different than people.
They might have their own cultural view of things.
But all on all they seemed for the most part.
Able to be swayed or reasoned with.

They have there priests.
Their military type beings.
The blue collar workers.
Their Dr's.
Their Technicians.
Their leaders.
Their bad players.

During my entire time in front of what I might call a pannel.
I had the feeling of impending danger.
Of a emulate conflict between the beings.
In some instances I believe it was on the brink or in fact at war.
They were managing a difficult situation.
I knew I had to make the best of my time & theirs.

Over the years they have let me have more interaction.
They actually in the last abduction let me walk up and ask a question before putting the Zap on me.

I asked for proof one time.
They left a deciduous tree in my yard with white leaves.
Not damaged.
Just paper white.
It was in the summer.

Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
Can I summon one to me?

I was trained via a torture into being able to call them.
I was congratulated on it by them in my New Mexico experience when it worked for them the first time.
I believe they were just messing with me.
They had left me in the desert for a long period of time alone.

Believe me.
Now I would not call them myself if you payed me.
Unless there was a grave danger.

A few of them think that because you are not going to remeber it anyway.
That it is a waist of tiime for them to be civel with humans.

Ask a baby that is circumcised if he regrets not getting a local before his operation.

Good talking with you.

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--- Watcher

Originally posted by OnTheFelt

1. Are you only interested in other contactees/abductees contributing in this forum, or are you also open to posters like myself (seeker of truth) in asking relevant questions to your experiences? If you're not, I will totally respect your wishes and not post in here.

I hope that I can be very open to all that just want to get to the root of this.
We can keep swapping stories but we also need a forum that might allow us to help one another. Help us polish our views. Help others polish there's.

I believe that time is short.
I believe that we are just people just trying to cope.
I have been threw the grist mill.
If I can help someone currently in it all the better.

I am a christian & have come to grips with the fact that god can make the world any way he see fit. Who are we to question his actions?

If we call him Christ, Alla, Budda or the kitchen sink.
He is still in charge not us.

Originally posted by OnTheFelt
2. During your experiences, have you ever been given insight to our (planet earth) future? The reason I ask is because I intuitively believe that we are about to experience major changes in our beings, our world, our universe. I have had some incredible synchronicities happen to me recently, and I don't know it's very hard to explain, almost like a sixth sense.

I was trained to do a few things that I found hard to believe myself.

I have a knack for being at the right time with the right tools.

Bazar things have happened to me also.

Strange synchronicities.

One example

While on the road for a 1 1/2 years for my employer.
I was driveing the USA & Canada in a Rock Style bus.
(That's what they wanted you to think it was it was actually a Metals Annalisys Lab)

I was raceing back home to Michigan in front of a large snow storm that had been following me sence I left LA Calf a few days before. The storm dropped 4" in Torrance area.

If the snow caught me in the mountains, then I might be stuck there with the bus for the season.

I just made it threw the Vail Pass & Crashed in the Holiday Inn near Denver.
the storm reached me as I was driving the Vail pass.
It just so happened to be the same big night for the Art Bell show in New Mexico. I listened intently as the reporters said that there was no wind but the snow just falling sideways. (same Storm)

Well long story short.
I woke up at the hotel with blood running from a hole in the side of my ear/head.
The next few days were a blur.
I kept loosing time the entire trip home.
I experienced a few time loops.
I was able to explain & prove one to my wife.
We could find nothing that I could do with this experience.

Places I had visited on that tour alone.
The epicenter of the large quake in Calf.
A small mountain research town kind of NE of LA.
I stayed in Torrence for over a few weeks.

We had many appointment's with NASA, the various aircraft manufactures,
the hole near Santa Fe, Langley, A bunch of New Mexico sites. Chalk River.
I held a piece of the current space station.
I held a piece of the train that crashed in the swamps down south at the TSB in Washington.
I got to see the large array near Snow Flake.
I made a call to Travis while in town and was able to get a little perspective.

All & All it was an eventful time.
I was alone along with the bus.
I gave me time to gather my thoughts.
I am a better man for it.

As an experienced abductee I know what to look for & act on it.
I try not to panic others that don't understand what is happening.
I look forward to working with you in the future.

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Without Wax -- Watcher

Your posts are extremely interesting. I, for one, believe your story as an abductee and would like to hear more.

I'm not saying I've ever been abducted, because to tell you the truth, I dont know. All I do know, is that ALL my life after seeing a UFO with my grandmother as a child, Ive had a fascination and almost obsession with aliens/ufos.

Your words just ring true to me, your candid way of writing. Brilliant, IMO.

Originally posted by n120by60w
I had the feeling of impending danger.
Of a emulate conflict between the beings.

Hi OP,
I just wonder what you meant by this, especially 'emulate'- did you mean 'imminent' - as in, something tht will happen soon?
Hopefully you'll be treated well here...
Peace

reply to post by n120by60w


Thank you for posting. As a matter of fact, there are abductee websites on the net, can't point to one right now, but I have come across them in the past. I too had this happen to me. It was 1985, and I was driving semi in West Texas across Interstate 10 to Los Angeles. There were three other trucks with me, all of us were talking on our CBs, trying to stay awake and make it to the next fuel stop. All of a sudden like, a very bright light appeared, it actually looked like the Sun had set down in the road. My truck engine stopped, and slowly came to rest. I could see another truck right in front of me, it's a wonder I didn't crash right into him. I crawled across the engine, (cabover) and got out on the passenger side for a look at this wonder. A man I took as the driver of the truck ahead grabbed my arm and warned me not to look directly at it, or I would lose my sight. That is the last thing I remember until I woke up several hours later. When I woke up, I was again sitting in the driver's seat, and the act of putting the transmission in gear woke me up. The other truck were long gone, I was alone on the road. I went ahead to the fuel stop in Gallup, N.M.
As I approached the fuel desk, the lady looked at me with concern in her eyes, and asked me what had happened? I asked why, and she told me the side of my face was burned really bad. I went to the restroom and had a look in the mirror. The whole left side on my face was sunburned bad, and folks, I have never sunburned in my life, I have natural dark skin, being part Indian. My left arm was also burned.

After this I began to have seizures that the doctors could find no reason for. I also began to have kidney infections, one after another. Years later I was told by doctors I had some strange crystals on my kidneys. To this very day I cannot remember exactly what happened there, and what "they" did to me. all I remember was that bright light. This really happened, and I will never forget it. I have had several other ET experiences, but nothing like that one.

Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
I'm not saying I've ever been abducted, because to tell you the truth, I dont know. All I do know, is that ALL my life after seeing a UFO with my grandmother as a child, Ive had a fascination and almost obsession with aliens/ufos.

Yummy,

Mufon kept telling me "When your ready you will remember"

I have a problem with that
I have patience
They are my memories.
I want to remember all my memories.
En I ant it right now!

That was a Joke Yum --

I share your wanting to know.
Maybe we or they are protecting us.
All I know is nothing happens without a reason.

Your perspective on your siteing is yours & yours alone.
Be at peace & relax.
Breath in Breath out.
1 right step at a time.

Share it if you want.
Or keep it a special thing between you & Grandma...

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Watcher

Wow this is a good thread..Keep it coming.Dont bash ask questions i want to hear more.

Originally posted by HiAliens

Originally posted by n120by60w
I had the feeling of impending danger.
Of a emulate conflict between the beings.

I just wonder what you meant by this, especially 'emulate'- did you mean 'imminent' - as in, something tht will happen soon?
Hopefully you'll be treated well here...
Peace

Hi Hi -

Well I am very very dependent on Spell Check.
Your right about the foe Pa.
This is why I love this site.
It might have been led someone into the bush's.
Thanks for pointing it out.

I can use all the help I can get with this thread.
I hope we can build it into something that positive.

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Watcher

reply to post by n120by60w


I have never been abducted, and I am very interested in it. Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I am not 100% sure about it yet. I am still trying to understand what exactly is happening. Also if it is happening I for one think there are a lot of people claiming it for attention. I'm not saying you are one of those people. Now that that is out of the way, I will get to my questions.

First off could you describe them for me? (I know this question was asked already but you didn’t cover it very well, and if you don’t want to be bashed on this site every detail will help.)

You said an implant was found? is that right. Could you describe that for me. and do you have any guesses as to its purpose. Are they used for anything other than tracking devices.

You said this happened while you were awake? why do you think they would do it then, instead of waiting until you were asleep. It would seem that a sleeping person would be more willing and struggle less.

Do you willing partake in these "abductions"?

Really, don’t take this the wrong way. I just want to know your story and like I said this is a topic in which I wish to gain more knowledge. I will more than likely have more questions in the near future. Thanks in advance for any answers you may provide.

Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by n120by60w

 

After this I began to have seizures that the doctors could find no reason for.

I also began to have kidney infections, one after another.

Years later I was told by doctors I had some strange crystals on my kidneys.

To this very day I cannot remember exactly what happened there, and what "they" did to me. all I remember was that bright light. This really happened, and I will never forget it. I have had several other ET experiences, but nothing like that one.

Things are starting to post pretty quickly.
I will address them in order unless I get one like this one.
It would be bumped to the front.

Autowrench - Please make sure you take care of your self.

I had problems that 4 a day "Tetracycline" for 3 days.
Following with 1 a day for a addional 2 weeks.
Its the only thing that took my care skin problems pertinently.
It just would keep coming back until I did this with the Dr's help.

I aslo have the Kideny problems but never equated it to the Abduction experances. It is interesting that they occured shortly after the abductions though. I passed one 1/4" long & a pencel"lead"width the last time. Boy passing that will make you sit up & pay attention. It was made from calcium (white) & had viens of iron deposits according to the Dr that had it anilized.

I have a concern that you might want to have a general X Ray of your lungs.
I have a lot of scarring that you might also have.
If it shows up then just take it easy at high Altitude.
You will be fine.

But I am here to tell you the Alien's do make mistakes.
Some try to fix them others are scoundrels just like some humans.
They are just beings.

After reviewing your experience
I get the feel that it may have had a military involvement.
You were there and would know best.

I would love to hear more from you!

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[edit on 4/24/2009 by n120by60w]

[edit on 4/24/2009 by n120by60w :insert Lead ]

[edit on 4/24/2009 by n120by60w]

Originally posted by DaleGribble
reply to post by n120by60w

 

You said an implant was found? is that right. Could you describe that for me. and do you have any guesses as to its purpose. Are they used for anything other than tracking devices.

If you have some background with this stuff you realize we are all grasping for a little chunk of the truth. I was looking & was given white leaves & some other junk. Mufon has them if you were going to ask. If you are looking for proof. It might be that you need to define what would the definitive proof you need. Be specific, if & when you were to get that proof it might just be for your benefit. Some people cant handle this stuff & it is not our job to push it on them.

Now to your direct question.

I have had 3 types of implants.
I have seen 2.

Mufon said that the 3 deep brain implants were not removable.
They also said that I might not live threw a CT OR MRI scan.
With hind site I have become King of the scan so to say.
So I do not take what they Mufon or what I say for gospel.
I know that they & I are trying but they are just people like us.

#1
The one that was removed by a doctor.
I already its removal in an earlier post..

It was a thin maybe 1/4" flat disk. I said dime size previously.
It was Bone white or just off white. Parchment like...
It was maybe 1/32" thick. Very thin.
Its was perfectly formed.
Not irregular at all.
It edges were lined with a (Silver) inner gum rapper like cut along its edge.
VVVVVVVVVV
As I said though it was all white not silver like the wrapper.

I am a newbe here so bear with me while I get used to the system interface.
I hope to be able to post drawings someday.

#2
After many of the abductions I had small radion burns on my right or left index fingers. It would bubble up with small white patch's.

In some of the larger ones the skin would flake off showing a small pin prick hole into the deeper skin. If the hole festered up or I were to push on them sometimes it would eject a small 1/32" hair like peice of wire like matteral.
I saved at least one in a jar.

Retreiveing might be kind of hard.
It is so small that it would be hard to tell from dust.
I have them pretty oftin so next time I will stick one on a peice of tape.

#3
I have one of the early CT scans.
I was given the originals by an acquaintance at the testing site.
They were much different then the ones the Dr's gave me.
I don't attempt to read them.
During the CT test the CT operator asked me when I broke my skull?
Never! I said.

Well from what I am told they are there for life.


quote]Originally posted by DaleGribble
reply to post by n120by60w

You said this happened while you were awake? why do you think they would do it then, instead of waiting until you were asleep. It would seem that a sleeping person would be more willing and struggle less.


Durring the Dr's operation I was totally awake.
I was given a general but not deep.
He told me once.
Hold on to your shorts.
This is medical Coke cain.
WWWWooooooWWW....
I was talking 100 miles an hour.
I was alert & not in touch with pain.

Durring the abductions?

The New Mexico Abduction started when I hit it with a rock.
It was directly over head.
The Holloman USAF Scrambled F15's after it.
My family was over to see another family.
Ya we were awake.
It started in full day light.
We were dropped off a few days later in the dark near the same spot.
We did not even know we had lost time back then.
It was light one second then dark the next.
We did not even question that....

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Autowrench - Please make sure you take care of your self.

I had problems that 4 a day "Tetracycline" for 3 days.
Following with 1 a day for a addional 2 weeks.
Its the only thing that took my care skin problems pertinently.
It just would keep coming back until I did this with the Dr's help.

I aslo have the Kideny problems but never equated it to the Abduction experances. It is interesting that they occured shortly after the abductions though. I passed one 1/4" long & a pencel"lead"width the last time. Boy passing that will make you sit up & pay attention. It was made from calcium (white) & had viens of iron deposits according to the Dr that had it anilized.

I have a concern that you might want to have a general X Ray of your lungs.
I have a lot of scarring that you might also have.
If it shows up then just take it easy at high Altitude.
You will be fine.

But I am here to tell you the Alien's do make mistakes.
Some try to fix them others are scoundrels just like some humans.
They are just beings.

After reviewing your experience
I get the feel that it may have had a military involvement.
You were there and would know best.

I would love to hear more from you!

autowrench: Thank you. I have been ridiculed a lot for trying to tell my story, and am still a little nervous of talking about it. I have a lot more to tell, and I don't think it was military, but I could of course be wrong about that. First of all, I suffered with a strange illness for several years after that doctors could not explain. Seizures, night sweats, tremors, and black out spells were only a part of it. I have "crystals" (doctor's words, not mine) on my kidneys now, and can only breath from one side of my nose, even though there is no obstruction in the other side. I always have a runny nose, winter and summer.

Now the really strange stuff. I have smoked cigarettes for many years, and a recent chest X-Ray showed pink lungs. My prostrate gland is the size of a 30 year old man's, i never have had a problem with it. I seem to know things I have never studied or read, or watched on TV/movies. My wife says I sometime speak in a strange language in my sleep, but I cannot reproduce it while awake...she says it sounds fluent, even though she doesn't recognize it at all. I sometimes lose my ability to speak, even though I know what I want to say, other times I can talk for hours. There is more, but I am very tired. Be back tomorrow. Take care.

Do you have any advice for people who are seeking to get abducted? I've been a huge believer of aliens and UFOs and the simple government coverup since I was a little kid, but I've ALWAYS been interested in actually getting abducted, it would be a dream come true to be face to face with a being from another planet... holy crap, I couldn't imagine what it's like and I envy everyone that have had legit and true experiences.

I would just like to know how... how did you get them to abduct you? Did you even want to be? Was it a completely random event? Did you see a UFO then chase after it, or try to signal it at all and they decided to just abduct you? I need to know, I need advice on how to be abducted. I live up in the mountains away from civilization and right by Mount Weather which is a US military base by the way. I can see the sky fine, and often stare out my window at night watching the skies... I don't think I've ever even seen a UFO...

Please help me.

Originally posted by DaleGribble
reply to post by n120by60w

 

I have never been abducted, and I am very interested in it. Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I am not 100% sure about it yet. I am still trying to understand what exactly is happening. Also if it is happening I for one think there are a lot of people claiming it for attention. I'm not saying you are one of those people. Now that that is out of the way, I will get to my questions.

Really, don’t take this the wrong way. I just want to know your story and like I said this is a topic in which I wish to gain more knowledge. I will more than likely have more questions in the near future. Thanks in advance for any answers you may provide.

I'm the same way, I'm pretty skeptical about this subject even though I believe in aliens and UFOs and the government coverup, but in my head I can't help but think that there has to be a large amount of people probably faking it, but at the same time I think that surely , SURELY, out of the millions people abducted that some must be telling the truth, and if so then I could actually be talking to someone who has made actual direct contact with another intelligent being from a planet outside of EArth and that's simply amazing, quite a honor... and since I believe the topic creator I am pretty honored to be reading his experiences.