Why do so many people think Fox News is a conspiracy

Since I am an avid reader, I have no problem with checking facts which I find suspect on Fox News. But I have heard many retreactions when they discovered their error.
I find it disgusting that the MSM assumed Fox instigated the Tea Partiesl. The Tea Parties were started in Florida by a couple of moms who were fed up with the way things are going. Folks picked up on it when the ladies were interviewed by Fox.
In other words, the people heard the story and ran with it. Fox did nothing but report the news, and the publics reaction to it. Then they promised to cover it. Much more than MSN die. Where was ABC, CBS, and NBC. THey were kissing Obama's arse. And Obama said he was unaware of the demonstrations.
This is a President who was in touch with the people?

um yea it is right wing its called niche marketing and that is what murdoch specializes in and he is not american he doesnt care about our values just a profit margin.

he saw the niche and the rabid nature of individuals with talk radio and created a television medium to full the void on tv. there is nothing wrong with that but if you dont understand that then your argument is invalid.

i know nothing about msnbc and dont care they all say the same crap more or less so it really doesnt matter.

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude

Originally posted by Awolscout
Honestly FOX is just as bad as all the others, and vice versa. It doesnt matter what news source you ask about MSM or otherwise even the non mainstream news sources are biased towards whatever their own personal agenda is. It has more than anything to do though with the fact that very often FOX tends to spin, that is they will take a rumour or a piece of information that would be detrimental to their cause and they bring on "experts" and "insider's" who supposedly are in the know, really theyre just on the payroll, and they spin whatever the information might be they start off by saying thing's such as "some doubt has been shown on blahblah" or "some experts are calling into question blahblah" and they , quite quickly at times, turn this piece of non existant or detrimental information into a piece of "fact" as in they take something from being untrue to making viewers believe it's true they also tend to make other news channels fall in behind them because of how aggresive they are.

I think ALL news sources do this. Maybe intentionally or maybe not. Reporters are human and so they are going to have certain preconceived notions that is going to bend their story in certain directions. Its human.

That's exactly what I was saying. you cant trust any news or media outlet's honestly because no matter that their intentions may be they are still biased no matter what. Best source and the only trustable source is a first hand report from someone you already know or yourself, even then perception might be off. question everything and never take anything as fact, even if its on a pie eating contest in south dakota their might be more to the story.

Something else ive noticed recently is that fox and msnbc seem to have switched places in how the operate, anyone else notice?.

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I know a bit about NLP. I only watched a few minutes of the video you posted because it was cracking me up. That is not so much examples of NLP as it is an example of commentary by some one who suffers from paranoia. I will give you that the hosts do interrupt a lot and its intentional (and annoying) but all of his body language is not conscious NLP.

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The only people who think that Fox News is an evil conspirator with the Republican party or whomever are the people who don't watch the network and those whose political positions won't stand up to rational discourse or forensic scrutiny.

The rest of those who spread this nonsense are those whose platforms are discredited and exposed and the networks who are losing their butts to Fox in the ratings.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


I did look at some vids that I searched for using "Fox News Racist". I didnt see anything that was racist in my opinion, except when Mark Furmon mentioned KFC right after he was talking about OJ Simpson.

I just dont find any of that racist.

I did find a bunch of videos of people whining about Fox News being racist, because someone at Fox News chose a view point that disagreed with theirs.

But to put this into context and to be fair, this is how I view things.
1.Too many people in this country are oversensitive and overly politically correct.
2. Sometimes people try to say your racist even though what you are talking about has nothing to do with race. Kinda like when people on here say you are racist when all you said was Obama is going to spend too much money. Its not racist, because I have said the same thing about George Bush and a bunch of white congressmen. It would be racist though if I said "Obama spends money like he n* rich".

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anderson cooper talking about tea party people tbagging eachother. that = ok. *he does it too though *

mark fuhrman saying he went to KFC *good place* = racist and uncallced for.


remember folks. quote of the year: liberals only let you speak freely when they agree with you. *points to CNN reporter at tea party, points to jeneans garafalatio calling the tea party'ers racist*

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Is Anderson Cooper gay or something, because I keep hearing all these cracks on him. So is he really gay or people are just saying he is gay?

Id recommend watching "Orwell Rolls in His Grave". Its a good documentary about the U.S. media and the power it has over politics and the stories they seem to amazingly ignore.

It has footage of former news producers and what not. Link below.


freedocumentaries.net...

First of all you must understand the difference between "conspiracy" and "agenda". The news networks are not "conspiracies" but they do have "agendas" that are reflective of those who have controlling shares in said companies. The main coincidence is that thes "agendas" not "conspiracies" are being pressed upon the people by those who stand to better profit from the news that is being left out or ignored. No network is innocent in this matter, all of the MSM networks have shown "agendas" that make them no longer reliable for true investigative reporting.


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I agree with most of what you said. It is just the nature of humans. I would even go as far to say that this problem has always existed. It is just more noticable as our views become more polarized.

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"Deregulation is fine as long as you build in checks and balances and harsher penalties for abusing the system, which they failed to do. It is easily fixed. "

Checks and balances, are a form of regulation....thats the point. Some of the deregulation that was implemented, removed the "rules" or checks and balances to ensure that people or businesses do not exploit the system.

how do you deregulate and then regulate with rules/checks and balances?

I will tell you why because they are the most watched and that makes the liberals get there panties in a bunch.Most Americans are conservative, we just vote for fruitcakes from time to time..lol

Originally posted by iamcamouflage
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"Deregulation is fine as long as you build in checks and balances and harsher penalties for abusing the system, which they failed to do. It is easily fixed. "

Checks and balances, are a form of regulation....thats the point. Some of the deregulation that was implemented, removed the "rules" or checks and balances to ensure that people or businesses do not exploit the system.

how do you deregulate and then regulate with rules/checks and balances?

You deregulate greedy people and they run amok. So regulation is required, just as are other laws against theft. (I think you missed the irony in my post. Sorry.)

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LOL, deregulation doesnt mean they can do whatever they wanted. There were still basic rules and laws they violated. Deregulation just means the government is not going to interfere as long as you play by the basic rules of businesss.

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
The only people who think that Fox News is an evil conspirator with the Republican party or whomever are the people who don't watch the network and those whose political positions won't stand up to rational discourse or forensic scrutiny.

The rest of those who spread this nonsense are those whose platforms are discredited and exposed and the networks who are losing their butts to Fox in the ratings.

Star for you! That is it right on the money. There is nothing to it at all. It's a business. They want the rating's they are getting the ratings.

So what do you anti fox news people thing of the average person who watchs it because they like the anchors or commetators more than the others? I watch me local news stations, Fox 10 in the morning and Abc 5 at night? does that mean Im...lol... brain washed. No it mean i have my own out look and my own opionion about thing.

Bill O'Reilly is a commentator so his show is not really news.. just his opinion.

This is the problem I have with Fox News. Right now Huckabee is on followed by Glenn Beck, then Geraldo at Large... Where the hell is the news? I agree MSNBC is just about as bad. Anymore cable "news" channels are nothing more than boring unamusing spin-offs of The Daily Show on comedy central. Good thing we can still look into things for ourselves via internet, etc, for now anyway...

reply to post by justsomeboreddude

"Progressives" deal in emotion, not logic or facts.

To them, Fox News has to be a conspiracy, because they are all about control and although they control most of the other networks, they do not control Fox News, therefore there must be something sinister going on.

Fox, MSNBC, CNN, BBC and so forth, honnestly, this is no different to the BS 2 party systems in the USA and UK, seriously there all FULL of BS and there all out to lead us along as they see fit, slipping in the lies (bbc foretold WTC7 collapse 20 mins prior to the fact), the subliminal nonsense (see 08 usa campaign regarding mccain - and no i wont hold your hand all the way to the info, learn how to do research!), the cheesey reality tv lets keep ur brainwashed nonsense and now and then a little bit of news.

Get a grip of reality, MSM is not your friend, if it was we wouldnt be in the middle east right now and there would be no recession, we all have brains:

LETS USE THEM!

reply to post by ModernAcademia
Okay, I watched your movie, and I felt as if Micheal Moore was going to walk in at any minute. I saw some very creative editing, intended to put Fox in a bad light.
Of course, that doesn't suprise me. It was produced by Moveon.org, which is funded by the extremely left wing George Soros.
Nice try, but I ain't buyin' this one.