2010-2012: Depopulation of the Planet

reply to post by reugen


It will be a key player because this war will start from a conflict between Israel and the Muslim countries, mainly Iran. In all likeliness Iran will attack Israel with WMD and wipe it out and then the NWO countries(USA, Europe, UK, Canada, Australia and other allies) will gang-up on the Middle East. This is when Russia and China becomes involved.

I have outlined the above as keyplayers because they will be the ones that will together start WW3 and it will spin it out of control from thereon.

reply to post by nerdychemist


I'm afraid that the country of Dharma will not be there anymore in the future, because India is going to lose its independence to China and China is going to be very cruel to her. You will hear aboout a WMD being used on Delhi which will kill up to 30 million people around that area and then China will invade India. This is what Meier predicts.

Unfortunately for India, and I feel for India because I have a lot of respect for its spiritual heritage, WW3 would be the end of it. From the North West it will attacked by Pakistan and from the North east it will be attacked by China. China has an overwhelming military superiority over India, and in the area that counts the most in this WW3 - nuclear weapons. India's best nukes are 0.05MT. China can absorb one of those without incurring unacceptable damage, but a couple of China's 4MT's falling on Indian cities will be wipe it out. So there is no hope for India i'm afraid.


[edit on 13-4-2009 by Indigo_Child]

India has always been attacked by Pakistan so basically it is a step up.

Basically my thoughts about Islam is that they're in on this world order as well they want a "one" world and I wouldn't be surprised if the Illuminati are rosy with the clerics

reply to post by nerdychemist


The Illumanti are 12 elite families which are concentrated in the West, so from their perspective China, Russia and the Muslims are the enemies. In reality these 12 elite families are at the bottom of another pyramid of power which is non-human - hostile ET races. The ET races do not care who does their bidding for them. When the West is destroyed, they will shift base to Russia or China. They are not about to relinquish their control over our planet until a truly epic fight happens - eath slaves vs et master. It does not look hopeful for humans post WW3. If global capitalism was not bad enough, they have global communism to look forward to.

[edit on 13-4-2009 by Indigo_Child]

I think you have truly lost hold of truth of who you are and have
gotten way to atached to this physical exsperience. All that is happening
from my view from what I find important to me experiencing this physical exsperience is that people are becoming more conciouss and there is a global shift in consciousness happening and is speeding up and in the next few years our consciousness will shoot off the scale be patient do not stress do not worry for we all are eternal even if we are just fragments
we all are one.

reply to post by Indigo_Child


Why do the ETs care about Earth so much,according to your sources?Isn't there countless other worlds in which to enslave,it seems like it has been more work just keeping it a secret from the masses.

I would like to add you to contact you somehow? what you are saying
hits me like a cold shiver what you are saying in understand but not fully would love to get in touch with you. I have felt that since i was very young

Originally posted by jkrog08
reply to post by Indigo_Child

 

Why do the ETs care about Earth so much,according to your sources?Isn't there countless other worlds in which to enslave,it seems like it has been more work just keeping it a secret from the masses.

I just came across this website that I think answers your question nicely - it's truthism.com...

hahah that truthism website made me laugh my ass off. 3.3 billion humans are souless lmao, and there's no god and aliens made us. Then who made the aliens??? lol. Even if shtf and this NWO stuff might be true who can honestly belive this site. They say humans dont know the truth and if you know it you are more superiour. Don't you see what there actully doing, humans always like to think there superiour then other people, the site is just making you feel better becasue you think you have more knowledge then other people, but really half of that stuff is bull#.

reply to post by kshaund


I liked some of the material on that web site, but there is a lot truths mixed in with paranoid conspiracy and regurgitation of David Ikes materials which I do not respect because it is irrationally put together. I do think Ike has done enough research to show that the Illojim do indeed control this planet and the Abrahmic religion indeed is an ideological state apparatus by which the Illojim control us. However, Ike and his followers take this too far and generalise it to all religions and then interpret everything to be a part of a sinster plan by an evil extradimensional heirarchy in the universe. In this web site it calls the universe "Darkness" and the entire 4th dimension or astral plane is controlled by evil.

It is not that this is not true to some extent, all conditional realities, including the astral realities delimit the soul and are ultimately illusory. This is why they are called maya by the Aryans. However, none of these planes of reality are inherently evil, rather they are planes of experience on which souls incarnate who may have a good or an evil disposition depending on their evolution. Jesus, Buddha and Krishna incarnated on this physical plane and they were not evil. Likewise, across the universe there are good people and bad people, from planet to planet, from person to person, even amongst the Illojim no doubt. This entire universe and its many levels are fields for the soul to explore itself in, to play, to enjoy the multiplicity of life, to learn and to grow. If you look at life as a journey to the infinite you will not see it as evil, because how can a journey be evil?

Not all religions are about power and control. Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism - the dharmic religions -teach independent and critical thinking, spiritual freedom and techniques on how to leave the 3rd and 4th dimensions and return to the 5th dimension of pure being and existence. How is is that evil?

The Illojim/Reptillians are just one race amongst trillions of other races in this universe, and we may perceive them to be evil, but actually this is a naive and childish outlook. It is doubtful they consider themselves evil, rather they just see us as lower life forms which can serve their interests. We do the same with animals, does that make us evil?

It is important to free ourselves of abstractions like good and evil and rather see this universe as a super reality, containing infinite realities, in which infinite souls can experience infinite things and have the freedom to chosoe their own experiences. So no soul is inherently evil, it is the choices it makes which can be good or evil, and over time we learn to make better choices. In the end everybody will return to their 5th dimensional home, including the Illojim and the elite on this planet who are about to commit mass-murder on the globe.

[edit on 13-4-2009 by Indigo_Child]

Greetings Everyone!!!
Just joined the post after reading this 12 page thread...
All interesting stuff, though I feel the concept about Aryan Scriptures being mistaken. The Aryan scriptures are not paganism, infact if anything its the exact opposite of it and you mite want to add that all scriptures teach the same stuff with a few minor changes. Paganism is nothing but witchcraft/idolatory satanic nonsense. I dont think that the west will be destroyed, infact if anything it will be the sole survivor. Just look at their millitary strength which includes a large amount of nuclear and sophisticated weapons, who can match that....
The Mayans were giving a warning of Wisdom disappearing from this planet. The mayans based their calender on solar cycles. It is a known fact that the solar path leads wisdom and the lunar to darkness as per Aryan writings, so if their solar calender is coming to an end, we can be sure that spirtualism/wisdom is coming to an end, well atleast for some time.....
As far as using nuclear weapons goes, I dont think the rulers are gonna be using that. Just imagine all the ruling people along with the stinkin elites going underground and using nuclear weapons and what are they gonna find when they get back to the surface...? A completly contaminated and un usable earth. Surley the people who rule are more intelligent than that....

Not gobly-goop.
Crap's coming down the line and at about 2013. Other than the visitors who have been under, above and in our Oceans will return in 2013, other ebe races are concerned about this earths human inhabitants possession of atomic bombs and fission materials. And feel or rather are convinced we're going to destroy the planet before any 2013 interdiction can ocur. --EDIT by Decoy: > ("# hah!!?") NOT MY WORDS, added by ??

NWO has it's + points too. "God" help us.. more importantly -- our Children and theirs.

Decoy

[edit on 14-4-2009 by Decoy]

Originally posted by CuteAngel
Greetings Everyone!!!
Just joined the post after reading this 12 page thread...
All interesting stuff, though I feel the concept about Aryan Scriptures being mistaken. The Aryan scriptures are not paganism, infact if anything its the exact opposite of it and you mite want to add that all scriptures teach the same stuff with a few minor changes. Paganism is nothing but witchcraft/idolatory satanic nonsense.

That is quite insulting to Pagans by the way. You should be careful with such sweeping remarks. Paganism refers to nature worshippers, and it tends to be pantheistic and the Aryans were nature worshippers and they were also pantheistic. The celts were Pagans, the pre-Islamic arabs were Pagan, the Greeks were Pagans. The Pagans were not as they are depicted, they were largely nature lovers and had sophisticated philosophical beliefs and literature. They were demonized by the Abrahmic religions.

I dont think that the west will be destroyed, infact if anything it will be the sole survivor. Just look at their millitary strength which includes a large amount of nuclear and sophisticated weapons, who can match that....

It will be completely obliterated according to prophecy. Europe will be destroyed by Russia and then ransacked by the Muslims. And America will be turned into a wasteland by Russia and China. Russia and China will almost wipe out its second-strike capability in the first nuclear strikes - hundreds will rain down on America in one go. America will retaliate, but because its second strike capability will be eroded so severely, it will not be able to inflict enough damage on Russia and China. This is why Russia and China will emerge out of WW3 as the new superpowers.

The Mayans were giving a warning of Wisdom disappearing from this planet. The mayans based their calender on solar cycles. It is a known fact that the solar path leads wisdom and the lunar to darkness as per Aryan writings, so if their solar calender is coming to an end, we can be sure that spirtualism/wisdom is coming to an end, well atleast for some time.....

Yes, which is why I said we are entering an age of pure evil. An age of global communism. A post-apocalyptic world ravaged by disease, radiation and shock. It's not going to be pretty.

As far as using nuclear weapons goes, I dont think the rulers are gonna be using that. Just imagine all the ruling people along with the stinkin elites going underground and using nuclear weapons and what are they gonna find when they get back to the surface...? A completly contaminated and un usable earth. Surley the people who rule are more intelligent than that....

I hear this often from people, that we are not going to use nuclear weapons. This is a rather naive belief, nuclear weapons are like any weapons, they are made to be used. Pretty much all analysts expect a WW3 to be nuclear. When you have big wars between major world powers, they use their best weapons. WW2 ended with a nuclear weapon and WW3 will begin with a nuclear weapon. Nuclear, chemical and biological weapons will be going off virtually everywhere in the world.
Also expect some of those black technology weapons to be unveiled.

Meiers Pleaidians have told that this war will see many futuristic weapons being used: including cloned armies programmed to kill, computerized or intelligent weapons and others.

The effects of nukes are exaggerated. Radiation levels come down quite quickly to acceptable levels after a blast. After a nuclear war, within 5-10 years, much of the world will be habitable again. Also do not underestimate the comfort level of living underground. The elite have been building bases there for decades now, and stockpiling on food and I am fairly sure they are equipped with all kinds of amenities and comforts to last them for years.

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Originally posted by Indigo_Child

You don't believe me? I can't share all my research with you because it is too extensive, but I will let you ask questions about the history I presented. In the end you are going to find out yourself come 2010-2012, be prepared.

[edit on 8-4-2009 by Indigo_Child]

Is this meant to be a joke on our intelligence? I don't want to insult or accuse here but i could come with a possible scenario for Earths near future aswell and simply state that's its fact... don't believe me? Too bad.

What is the point of this honestly? Again, this is not meant to be taken as an insult, rather a very honest objection. Is the point of this just to scare people for the sake of your own ego?

"be prepared"... Honestly? I enjoy coming to this website and tend to read and ponder rather than comment, but these kind of things get to me and i don't feel sorry for the poster but its the people who read this and take it as face value even when the OP clearly states that HE CAN'T PROVIDE ANY PROOF.

Ancient Sumerian bloodlines ruling the Earth... sounds like a great plot for Brown's next novel. By all means, even one shred of evidence, even something that supports your research?

P.S: I dont expect you to reply to this post without getting utterly defensive and/or providing no proof other than what you have already shown (i.e, nothing but possible scenarios).

Peace be with you.

reply to post by serbsta


If you review this thread I have revealed some of my research on the chronology and the elite bloodlines.

As regards to the 2010-2012 date I have provided predictions of top economic analysts as well as various prophecies of WW3. I also recommend you read my thread "The Empire Never Ended: A Brief history of NWO"

I will be discussing in more detail the depopulation agenda later on. There is a brief mention of it in the other thread I recommended.

Prophecies Continued:

If you remember my previous post on the prophecies you will recall I looked at the prophecies of 3-4 prophets on WW3 and possible nuclear war. In this post I will mention some more prophets, the main one being Meier's prophecies of Henoch.

An unlikely prophet is George Washington. He was shown a vision by a mysterious entity, in which he saw the entire history of America and the three wars, the upcoming civil war and the nuclear holocausts of America. Here is an excerpt dealing with future events, namely the second civil war and the nuclear holocaust.

Again, I heard the mysterious voice say, 'Son of the Republic, the end of the century cometh, look and learn.' At this the dark shadowy angel turned his face southward, and from Africa I saw an ill-omened spectre approach our land. It flitted slowly over every town and city of the latter. The inhabitants presently set themselves in battle array against each other. As I continued looking I saw a bright angel, on whose brow rested a crown of light, on which was traced the word 'Union,' bearing the American flag which he placed between the divided nation, and said, 'Remember ye are brethren.' Instantly, the inhabitants, casting from them their weapons became friends once more, and united around the National Standard.

"And again I heard the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.' At this the dark, shadowy angel placed a trumpet to his mouth, and blew three distinct blasts; and taking water from the ocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe, Asia and Africa. Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene: from each of these countries arose thick, black clouds that were soon joined into one. Throughout this mass there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men, who, moving with the cloud, marched by land and sailed by sea to America. Our country was enveloped in this volume of cloud, and 1 saw these vast armies devastate the whole country and burn the villages, towns and cities that I beheld springing up. As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of swords, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat, I heard again the mysterious voice saying, 'Son of the Republic, look and learn.' When the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful blast.
"Instantly a light as of a thousand suns shone down from above me, and pierced and broke into fragments the dark cloud which enveloped America.


'Son of the Republic, what you have seen is thus interpreted: Three great perils will come upon the Republic. The most fearful is the third, but in this greatest conflict the whole world united shall not prevail against her. Let every child of the Republic learn to live for his God, his land and the Union.' With these words the vision vanished, and I started from my seat and felt that I had seen a vision wherein had been shown to me the birth, progress, and destiny of the United States."

The above appears to forecast a civil war, an invasion of the US by armies from the East and then nuclear holocausts. It is interesting to note it mentions the light as if of a thousand suns, as this is the description Oppenhemier also used to describe a nuclear blast and is still used to refer to the initial blast of a nuclear bomb.

Bulgarian prophet Baba Vanga's Predictions:

2010 - World War III. War will begin in November 2010 and end in October 2014. Will begin as usual, then nuclear will be used initially, and then chemical weapons.
2011 - As a result of the fallout of nuclear fallout in the northern hemisphere will not be any animals or vegetation. Then Muslims will wage war against chemical surviving Europeans.
2014 - Most people will suffer skin cancer and other skin diseases (a consequence of chemical warfare).
2016 - Europe almost lonely

She says that Third World War would break out as a result of attempts on the lives of four government heads and after a conflict in Hindustan(India) Her predictions seem to be from an unverifiable source, so it is difficult to say whether they are genuine or made up.

But they match up with Billy Meirs predictions for WW3 exactly:

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Meier also says that the WWIII will begin with an assassination and an attack on India.
He also says Europe will be destroyed
He also says that the war will begin in November of either 2003, 2006, 2010, 2011, no specific dates are given, but approximate ones are.

The Soviet Union will be dissolved in this decade or at the latest by the beginning of the next. The man decisive for this action will be Mikhail Gorbachev. But this will not lead to rest, because the new Russia will continue its longstanding conflict with China over Inner Mongolia, with the result that Russia will lose a portion of this territory to China. And China becomes dangerous, especially to India, as also at this time China maintains uneasy relations with her. China will attack India; and if biological weapons are used, around 30 million human beings will be killed in the area of and around New Delhi alone. However, this will not be the end yet—because the effect of biological bombs and missiles, etc., used cannot be controlled at that time, and terrible epidemics unknown up to that point in time will arise and will spread quickly to many areas. Also Pakistan will allow herself to be misled to instigate a war against India, which will be especially dangerous in view of the fact that both countries are developing atomic weapons.

Yet the misery on Earth will continue, as two terrible civil wars will break out in America, whereby one will follow the other. Afterwards, the United States of America will break apart and deadly hostility will prevail among her, which then leads to the division into five different territories; and it cannot be prevented that sectarian fanatics will play a dictatorial role.
Anarchy will be the worldwide condition that will prevail and torment human beings over a long period of time, as human beings will also be tormented by the many epidemics and diseases, many of them new and unknown to human beings and for this reason incurable. Due to this fact, the bodies of many human beings will slowly and miserably decay, while unbearable pain will also occur as well as blindness and terrible respiratory problems that lead to suffocation. The consciousness of many human beings will become impaired and succumb to feeblemindedness and insanity. And all these gruesome occurrences will be traceable to biological and chemical weapons, which are the cause of not fast, but gruesome and slow deaths; and this will also occur due to the use of ray and frequency weapons which are already being developed today.
Finally, the words of Henoch may be specifically mentioned, which include that mankind of Earth, in pursuit of technology for mass destruction and greed for power, hatred, vengeance and riches, will ignore all values of Creation and will trample upon all values of love, wisdom, freedom and peace, as ancestors of the Henoch lineage have done before, to plunge the world into screaming misery, death, destruction and annihilation and into the most severe catastrophes mankind of Earth will ever have experienced

That is exactly what the Russian and American economic experts predicted: America will split up into 5-6 parts(also corrobrated by John Titor) and there will be a civil war in America by 2012.

From Meiers prophecies WW3 begins from either of the following:

America invading Iran and other countries and establishing the NWO
China assassinating India’s prime minister/president and then invading it
The eruption of Mount Versivus

We have a rough timeframe then when we consider all of the predictions: Around November 2010-2012 WW3 will start, it will either start from an attack on Iran and a huge conflict with Israel or China invading India suddenly. However, the latter does make sense, why would China invade India all of a sudden, there has to be some kind of impetus. Thus suggesting WW3 has already started before it happens. My guess is that it will start of from a conflict between Iran and Israel.

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YOU ARE WRONG INDIGO CHILD

ascension is another ploy by the evil aliens and the new agers


Darkness, also known as "Satan" or "The Devil," created the universe (and, this includes the higher, non-physical dimensions, too). He is holding all of us captive inside of it. The true creator of existence lives in a different realm--the True Realm. The universe is indeed a crude pseudo-creation, and everything in it is based upon programming (e.g., DNA). There is no programming in the True Realm, because it is not a virtual reality, it is simply reality. In the True Realm, crude concepts such as time, biological life, karma, and physics do not exist. Only Darkness, who is a pseudo-creator, would create a realm that is based on such things. Anything that is "technical" or governed by rules or restrictions (which, by the way, is everything in this universe, with the concept of "karma" being just one example) is crude. The True Creator does not need to rely on any rules. That is why this universe is the Matrix--it has rules. It is a virtual reality, as opposed to reality.

When one dies, then goes on to the astral world (the fourth dimension), in between physical incarnations, they are still inside of Darkness's universe. And, even if one "ascends" beyond the fourth dimension, into a higher dimension, they are still inside of Darkness's universe. The only way to get out of the universe and into the True Realm is for the universe to be destroyed. One cannot "ascend" into the True Realm.


i suggest you to read this
www.abovetopsecret.com...



the entire universe is a creation of demiurge.the universe will soon be destroyed and time ended in 2008 and not 2012.


READ IT AND REPLY

reply to post by Akoostikreiki

There is no such thing as bleak. You can either fight knowing that you will lose, or fight hoping that you will win.

If you want to know about de population, its already begun...why wait till Nov 2010...? And not in the way Indigo Child refers to it....
Examples are 9/11, War in Iraq, fighting going on in Af - Pak. All of this along with terrorists bombing in various parts of the world (Mainly Middle-East, I think!) as well as natural calamities.
The West is separated from the East by a huge ocean, do you think its possible for armies to cross to it that easily without being spotted. NASA and the pentagon will be able to spot any minor Changes that goes on and will react immediatly. The only devastating army that could come is ET, if possible. If you want to know another major factor contributing to mass de population its the receding Economy, by the way whats happening with that...wheres all our money that we are spending going......?
If you look at any scripture it always says that light will triumph over darkness eventhough lots of lives are lost in the process. I am pretty much in tune with Indigo_Child except on a few major details......

Originally posted by Maddogkull
hahah that truthism website made me laugh my ass off. 3.3 billion humans are souless lmao, and there's no god and aliens made us. Then who made the aliens??? lol. Even if shtf and this NWO stuff might be true who can honestly belive this site. They say humans dont know the truth and if you know it you are more superiour. Don't you see what there actully doing, humans always like to think there superiour then other people, the site is just making you feel better becasue you think you have more knowledge then other people, but really half of that stuff is bull#.

Who made the aliens is the same question as who created the first life - Ultimate Creator, whatever that is/was.

The real question is who made us? God? Not directly. God made the aliens who made us. Ultimately we're all from the source, yes. But how long has mankind been around compared to the age of the universe?

The site doesn't make me feel better at all - what WOULD make me feel better is for someone to really prove the Reptilians are NOT here controlling everything from the shadows.

You've never met anyone that seems to be without a soul? No depth? Finds nothing wondrous about life? How about those who are without remorse or empathy? Why shouldn't there be a mix of those with and those without - it works on every other level of creation. Doesn't mean they're not without a spark of life, but just without that extra passion that drives others to seek Real Truth instead of what's spoon fed us as you seem to abide by.

It's all about becoming enlightened... with knowledge and a prerequisite is an open mind and a willingness to go deeper into the rabbit hole. Most people find their comfort level and sit back and put their feet up, sure it's all good. Perhaps. I just don't want to risk dying now without knowing as much as I can.

I've been reading and researching for over forty years now - and the Truthisms website encapsulates it in my opinion.

Go do a bunch of your own research into this and see. Icke reiterates what others have explored, his research isn't original but he does say it well.