HR 1388 just passed

reply to post by timewalker

H.Amdt. 49: Amendment to prohibit organizations from attempting to influence...
Amendment to prohibit organizations from attempting to influence legislation; organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes; and assist, promote, or deter union organizing.

sounds crazy to me
amendmant 11

If they pull this off, it will be a massive coup.

reply to post by never2late


I just started another thread about the amendment you mention and the amendment listed right before it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...'

I honestly don't know what to make of the amendment that you cite. It is clearly against the First Amendment to the US Constitution in the Bill of Rights.

The amendment right before this one talks about "required annual training" for members of the "National Service Reserve Corps."

What the hell is the "National Service Reserve Corps?"

[edit on 19-3-2009 by finemanm]

reply to post by never2late
I'm not following you. What is this? The govtrack page is down.

I boy. What if you can NOT participate?

I am disabled, but do not have documentation in the system to state it.
I do not take money from the state. My husband supports us.

So they tell me you must go do this today for three hours, hell, I can barley go to the store once a week if I am lucky and then have to use an electric cart.

So they would probably make me put my self into the system to prove I qualify that I can not do the work. So either way I am in the system some how. How nice. I would not have work credits to qualify for disability anyway , due to the fact I have been to sick to work....Duh.... and since I can not get that they would force me then? If I do not, then what? Where is this going? Prisons, and camps?

Im sick of the system and it just gets worse.

So they are taking away vouchers from private schools, so you have to go to their crummy brainwashing school. Then they make you take shots, that you do not want to take, then they make you go to work for free , indoctrinating you, they turn you against your parents authority, ( turning children against parents) may even reward the kids for it.

Hell who needs the mark of the beast. this is the beast. Parents enslaved to their own children.

Sick, Sick , Sick

CALL TO SERVICE CAMPAIGN

link to source

11 ‘‘(j) CALL TO SERVICE CAMPAIGN.—Not less than 180
12 days after enactment of this Act, the Corporation shall con
13 duct a nationwide ‘Call To Service’ campaign, to encourage
14 all people of the United States, regardless of age, race, eth
15 nicity, religion, or economic status, to engage in full- or
16 part-time national service, long- or short-term public serv
17 ice in the nonprofit sector or government, or volunteering.
18 In conducting the campaign, the Corporation may collabo
19 rate with other Federal agencies and entities, State Com
20 missions, Governors, nonprofit and faith-based organiza
21 tions, businesses, institutions of higher education, elemen
22 tary schools, and secondary schools.
23 ‘‘(k) SEPTEMBER 11TH DAY OF SERVICE.—
24 ‘‘(1) FEDERAL ACTIVITIES.—The Corporation
25 may organize and carry out appropriate ceremonies
1 and activities, which may include activities that are
2 part of the broader Call to Service Campaign, in
3 order to observe September 11th National Day of
4 Service and Remembrance at the Federal level.
5 ‘‘(2) ACTIVITIES.—The Corporation may make
6 grants and provide other support to community-based
7 organizations to assist in planning and carrying out
8 appropriate service, charity, and remembrance oppor9
tunities in conjunction with the September 11th Na10
tional Day of Service and Remembrance.
11 ‘‘(3) CONSULTATION.—The Corporation may
12 consult with and make grants or provide other forms
13 of support to nonprofit organizations with expertise
14 in representing September 11th families and other
15 impacted constituencies, in promoting the establish16
ment of September 11th as an annually recognized
17 National Day of Service and Remembrance.’’.

Reads like there's going to be a false flag event once this is passed which will encourage many to sign up for National Service thinking they are helping out in the fight against terrorist or whatever country is going to blame for the false flag

Edited to add: the false flag event is one that will cause us to go to war with Iran and/or China I believe.


[edit on 20-3-2009 by Sanity Lost]

reply to post by Clearskies

"The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution officially abolished and continues to prohibit slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime."

As Ayn Rand once said "The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. "


I do not agree with every word that came out of her mouth, but
this one quote rings like a frigin bell.

Good Luck to you all !

From change.gov...

As the new administration takes shape, Barack Obama and Joe Biden will call on Americans from every walk of life to serve. President-elect Obama and Vice President-elect Biden will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and the Peace Corps and will create new service organizations to meet the nation's challenges head on:

• Classroom Corps to help underserved schools
  
• Health Corps to serve in the nation's clinics and hospitals
  
• Clean Energy Corps to achieve the goal of energy independence
  
• Veterans Corps to support the Americans who serve by standing in harm's way

Obama and Biden will call on citizens of all ages to serve. They'll set a goal that all middle school and high school students engage in 50 hours of community service a year, and develop a plan for all college students who engage in 100 hours of community service to receive a fully-refundable tax credit of $4,000 for their education. Obama and Biden will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.

The Obama-Biden administration's volunteer initiatives are still taking shape, but take a moment now to let us know that you're interested, and we'll keep you posted on all the latest developments.

Logos: www.nationalservice.gov...

From Wikipedia on Soviet Young Pioneers:

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Structure

Its main grouping of members until 1942 was the "Young Pioneer detachment," which then typically consisted of children belonging to the same secondary school. From 1942 to October 1990 (when the organization was broken up) the "detachment" was made up of children belonging to the same class within a school, while a school was referred to as a "Young Pioneer group."

There was also an age-scale structure:

• children of 10-11 years were called Young Pioneers of the first stage
  
• 11-12 years were Young Pioneers of the second stage
  
• 13-15 years were Young Pioneers of the third stage.
  
• Young Pioneers of 15 years could join Komsomol, with a recommendation from their Young Pioneer group.

The main governing body was the Central Soviet of the Young Pioneer organization of the Soviet Union, which worked under leadership of the main governing body of Komsomol. Its official newspaper was Pionerskaya Pravda.

Here's another Military twist

www.govtrack.us...

SEC. 1511. OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

Section 162 (42 U.S.C. 12622) is amended--

(1) in subsection (a)--

(A) in paragraph (1)--

(i) in subparagraph (A), by inserting ‘National’ before ‘Civilian Community Corps’; and

(ii) in subparagraph (B)(i), by striking ‘the registry established by’ and all that follows through the semicolon and inserting ‘the registry established by section 1143a of title 10, United States Code;’;

(B) in paragraph (2)(A), by striking ‘to be recommended for appointment’ and inserting ‘from which individuals may be selected for appointment by the Director’; and

(C) in paragraph (3), by inserting ‘National’ before ‘Civilian Community Corps’; and

(2) by striking subsection (b).

www.law.cornell.edu...

TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 129 > SUBCHAPTER I > Division E > § 12622

(a)
(4) Information regarding Corps

The Secretary of Defense may permit Armed Forces recruiters to inform potential applicants for the Corps regarding service in the Corps as an alternative to service in the Armed Forces.


(b) Secretary of Labor

Upon the establishment of the Program, the Secretary of Labor shall identify and assist in establishing a system for the recruitment of persons to serve as members of the Civilian Community Corps. In carrying out this subsection, the Secretary of Labor may utilize the Employment Service Agency or the Office of Job Training.

[edit on 20-3-2009 by imd12c4funn]

Originally posted by dgtempe
I hope you will all listen to me just once.

This is a communist move. This will amount to slavery, unpaid labor God knows where. Believe me, this isnt for your typical SOUP KITCHEN.

I came from a Communist country and this is how they do it.

You have been warned many times by me. I will just stop saying it now.

If it went only so far as a MIL Draft, or a Mandatory Government Service Program similar to Modern Day Germany's, I would have no problem with such.

However, given the current extremist political leanings of the Upper, and Lower House Leadership, as well as that of the Executive Branch, it does cause me concern as to where such "Mandatory" Policies cease.

The language in this Bill is so vague, I can see it being ripe for abuse by an immoral implementor.

As John Adams once said: "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other. "

Think about that for a moment.

reply to post by Aermacchi


Hey thanks I needed some help with "mayberry" I like your come backs, especially “ Your need to be "RIGHT" in jeopardy you become even more intolerant of the obvious truth.” You did an excellent job of getting your point across. I had no prior contact with this ANGRY person, until yesterday.

Originally posted by dgtempe
I hope you will all listen to me just once.

This is a communist move. This will amount to slavery, unpaid labor God knows where. Believe me, this isnt for your typical SOUP KITCHEN.

I came from a Communist country and this is how they do it.

You have been warned many times by me. I will just stop saying it now.

Was the draft a communist move?


What about your country makes you NOT want to give a year or 2 of your life to support it?

I just don't get these people...

I'm GLAD this bill passed the house... now on to the Senate!!!

I hope those that support this bill will be prepared to protect their families when this program takes a drastic turn for the worse. The language in this bill is beyond vague and is downright chilling.

This is forced indoctrination on our youth by the extreme left. Obama won the election by leaning toward the center and now he has taken the leap back to his roost in the far left wing nut tree. Just a little bait and switch on a gullible nation.

Our sitting president actually wrote in his own memoirs that he hung out with Marxists and extremists in college so that he wouldn't be labeled as a sell-out. He will soon be living out his dream by leading Amerika down the primrose path of govt. imposed programs for the good of the people. Right... He only has your best interests at heart.

[edit on 20-3-2009 by jibeho]

Castro did this in Cuba. They essentially took grade-schoolers
away from their families and indoctrinated them to socialism.
The president never served anything beyond NWO interests.
Rahm Emanuel served his country, Israel. These two make
Bush and his National Guard joy ride seem patriotic. Have
the plan start with every college athlete on scholarship and
see how that flies. Start with the Final Four rosters.
Or will inner city hoopsters be excused?

reply to post by Sanity Lost


This is insane! All people of the United States, regardless of AGE, elementary schools, and secondary schools.!! A National Day Remembrance may be appropriate but forced servitude. My teens are active in our community. The final decision will be mine and mine alone. No national militia for kids! They are recruiting Elementary students. What to start out with 1st graders. They better not schedule field trips without my consent!

reply to post by Hemisphere


The Obama/Castro connection. That never crossed my mind. Good point but Scary!

This nation is angry and down right pissed off by what our govt. has just done to us. I have been listening to the same shows for years and the anger level in the callers and the online bloggers is as high as I have ever noticed.

Perhaps this HR 1388 will act as the catalyst that drives the nation over the edge. I know it seems a little far fetched but this could lead to the Marshall Law scenario that everyone has been afraid of. You can only push people so far before they begin to push back.

Originally posted by HunkaHunka

Originally posted by Hemisphere
Castro did this in Cuba. They essentially took grade-schoolers
away from their families and indoctrinated them to socialism.
The president never served anything beyond NWO interests.
Rahm Emanuel served his country, Israel. These two make
Bush and his National Guard joy ride seem patriotic. Have
the plan start with every college athlete on scholarship and
see how that flies. Start with the Final Four rosters.
Or will inner city hoopsters be excused?

Man... I tell you what... the level of FEAR coming out of you cowards is just disgusting.

If you don't want to serve your country... then leave. There is the door. Go.

Their is a difference between fear and preparedness, fear and mistrust.

This policy has nothing to do with serving your country. If that is all they want they would reinstate the draft. This is forced indoctrination and it won't work. Ever try to force a teenager to do anything?? The more you force the more they resist.

I prefer to serve my community and the communities around me. I also choose to serve my family, friends and neighbors. This where I can have the greatest impact.

A coward will sit back and let the govt. fulfill their every need and tell them that everything will be ok.