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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
But let me ask you, why is it that no pressure is placed upon the Arab states to assimilate any of their displaced people? Especially Syria?
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
I've drawn it out perfectly why Israel is not in the wrong, and why they are not to be expected to give an inch, although they have demonstrated more than once their willingness to do so. How have they been received? More demands and more deaths. The Arabs have not changed in their desire for the Jews to swim or drown. This catch-all, or should I say, weak catch-none, declaration that all are wrong and that the small sliver of Jewish land should be even further divided is weak and spineless and not in any means just.
Correction TC you;ve tried to point put why you feel israel is in the right... but your arguments just dont stick. Israel have not shown willingness for peace, its just your american media channels only show the attacks by the palestinians, they never shown the aggression and intimidation performed by the Israelis even during times hamas have called cease fires. And you refer to it as Jewish land... its comments like this that make this a religious instead of territorial debate. Its not JEWISH land its just land. I doubt the land follows the jewish faith.
SAX, try and be less biased yourself. In your attempts, you will willingly bring to light the deaths of innocent Jews at the hands of the Arabs even before the thirties. You seem to forget the British-encouragaged riots of Arabs against Jews in 1921, led by Haj el-Husseini I believe. Check the name, I might be off a little. The violence and hostility continued with little intervention by the British "protectors", and fomented again in 1929, where the entire town of Hebron was killed or had fled because of the pogroms. Save your attempts to paint the Israelis as horrible while the "Palestinians" are "less the Angels" crap for a place where some are unlearned; it won't work here. Not as long as my computer is working and I find the threads where unchecked anti-Semitism can be found!
Once again TC... You assume because we're anti-Israel we're anti semetic? Its crap like this that undermines your usual logical arguments... As soon as someone says something anti-Israel someone screams anti-semitism to make the anti-Israeli seem like a monster... And I never claimed the Palestinians/Arabs didnt use terrorism, i merely stated no-one ever mentions the fact that the pre-Israel jews of the region used the very same tactics on the Arabs to achive their state, so why is it more wrong for the Arabs to do the same? As for trying to swing the unlearned... i dont care what the unlearned think, in fact if the entire world (as opposed to just the majority) told Israel to back of they still wouldnt, you know why coz the USA still backs them. So why should I care how many people support my views or yours?
You will also bring to light the fact that there is no such thing as "Palestinians", and will bring to our attention that even at the time of the Peel Commision a Muslim leader vehemently pointed out that there is no such thing as Palestinians and that "Palestine" was a creation of the Jews. He was not correct, as we know that "Palestinian" is a bastardization of the word "Phillistine", which was a Roman attempt to erase the memory of the Jew from the face of the earth.
New terms are coined for new people... the Word American didnt always exsist, does that mean that americans have no rights coz they didnt always exsist as a group? The Palestinans are a collective term for the Arabs who lived in the area before Israel took the land from them (and who cares if the UN gave it to them or not coz it wasnt the UNs land to start with, and if you're using the fact the UN gave the land to the Israelis, how aout looking at the UN resolutions being ignored by Israel), who have grouped together to fight a common cause.