"Zionist Conspiracy Theory" = Black Propaganda

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Part III,

Why I favor this theory especially. The repository for most of the banking wealth has been Switzerland and Switzerland has two unique things going for it. It was based on thirteen cantons and lords. Kind of like the Thirteen Tribes of Israel and their elders. They always remained neutral in Wars but supplied the Vatican and the Pope with his Swiss Guard. The Swiss Guard would at times be dispatched to put down any insurrection or rebellion against Holy Roman Catholic Rule. The Swiss Guard though may have had another function in that essentially it would have made the Pope a hostage to the continuation of the system preventing him from rebelling. They Guard would have looked to their commanders in Switzerland for their ultimate authority and not the Pope in the Vatican they were merely being paid and employed to serve. They could have immediately executed any Pope not following the plan. While always remaining neutral in all conflicts the Swiss sure have made some great weapons from the beloved Swiss Army Knife to their State of the Art Assault Rifles, they are also known for their rigid training and discipline. In the dark ages and Feudal days most kings and lords trying to break from the system had little chance as their soldiers were reluctant to fight the Swiss Guard. Not only were the Swiss better armed, trained and equipped they were God's chosen warriors, striking one down and defying God would have meant certain damnation.

While the King of England and Martin Luther would both finally make inroads breaking the Catholic Hegemony the English Empire in and of itself conquered and created many lands setting up a further divide and conquer system along the way. Germany not only saw rise to Martin Luther but the emergence of the Rothschild Family from the Shadows and the house of Dan, and the Illuminati and many of the political movements that would keep Europe divided and conquered and become a catalyst for ushering in the Modern State of Israel. Without the seesaw outcome of the 1st world war against Germany there may have never been a Balfour agreement which set the stage for the British the first to gain some visible degree of independence expelling the Ottoman Turks and setting the stage for the hand over to the now visible and organized Zionist movement. Without World War II the impetus for the mostly dispersed and cosmopolitan Jews who had attained wealth and stature in several places to emigrate to Israel a provincial Backwater might have made it's re population under such harsh conditions very unattractive. There is some evidence that correspondences between Winston Churchill in his role as Colonial Secretary to Lord Rothschild whom it was rumored Churchill was having an affair with his wife, stated that the quality of most of the Jewish immigrants migrating into Israel prior to World War II was lacking as the bulk of them where poorer and non productive Eastern European Jews that they Zionist hierarchy already installed now in Israel was having difficulty motivating. As the onset of Nazi persecution of the Jews began to take hold, denying access of many of the Jews trying to get into Israel would have only increased their overall desire to reach it as a place of refuge. Additionally England the first to break sway with the Catholic Church gave rise to the Scottish Rite Freemason Movement that by and large almost every founder of America was a member of. While America was set up ostensibly through revolution to be the home of the free and the brave, giving it great allure to Europe's now teeming cities full of unemployed and criminals it became the safety valve for European order much like Miami is the safety valve for Cuban order today. There is some evidence that suggests that the treaties signed with England after the revolutionary war read more like an incorporation of America as a subsidiary of England as opposed to a fully independent nation asserting it's victory. America would be called on in the future to take the vast wealth of poor immigrants flooding their shores and place them into uniform to ensure the defeats of the movements set up to propel the final consolidation of the system and ensure Israel's safety as the world prepared itself for the Roman/Hebrew/English system of government to consolidate the last sect of Islam back into the fold providing hegemony in the process, as the last competing ideologies of an independent China and Soviet Union joined in to ensure the survival of their commerce base and sphere of influence in the Middle East and Islam.

Interestingly enough the only leader who may have ever challenged this system was Napoleon who for some reason attacked the Neutral Swiss destroying their Canton system of Government. We all know that Napoleon was exiled and excruciatingly poisoned slowly to death.

This would likely be the reason why as he was the only one to ever challenge the system.

Likewise Czar Nicholas the last Czar of Russia made no attempt to defeat the system but tried to maintain a degree of independence from it and was executed a long with his family in a well planned revolution funded by Wall Street with an ideology some claim was written by Marx but commissioned by the house of Rothschild to be written.

On the surface it looks like a lot of competing ideologies, religions, disparate systems and philosophies but in reality they are all tied together utilizing well thought out and coordinated efforts that deceive the masses through the disparity in the individual movements and the individual conspiracies that each branch of the many tentacled scorpion represents.

This is how the takeover the world was planned in my opinion and this is what appears to be pretty much happening. Hebrew Gold fuels it, Christian/Roman/English arms conquests, Germany smack dab in the middle propels things and creates a check and balance to unite the west despite it's differences against the communist horde in the East who is godless and Evil in Christian eyes, but in the Illuminati eyes that funded and orchestrated their rise keeps the Christian faithful determined to remain Christian faithful, just like the exploitable differences between Muslims and Christians does.

I think it's a great plan. I would have signed off on this one and committed my people and resources to it.

You know if I was intent on ruling the world or having a place in it and slice of it.



[edit on 14/3/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

The title "Zionist Conspiracy Theory" = Black Propaganda" is not completely accurate. Yes it is accurate in the sense of sites like JewWatch.com being mostly hate sites.

And the term Zionist is not seemingly defunct. It's true that it's defunct in the definition of establishing a homeland, but not in the political. If the term no longer applies, and if it no longer has any meaning, then VP Joe Biden wouldn't have referred to himself as a Zionist not more than a year ago (at the election time). Now the interested part to note is that; Joe Biden is now Vice-President of the U.S, and it's pretty clear why that is.

Originally posted by Skyfloating

Originally posted by rufusdrak
Skyfloating your allegiance to zionism and Israel is sickening. You are one of the biggest disinfo agents on this site. How much are they paying you??

I dont need any more proof of ZOG-Theorists going into emotional rants without providing any reasoning, intelligence, fairness or even evidence whatsoever.

If you think Im a paid-disinfo-agent you are dissociated from reality, almost beyond repair.

You know, that dosent make much sense, does it....

How would that make him dissociated from reality. Has he ever met you in person, do you know each other personally?

If the answer is no, then you have proved some amount of ignorance.

If you cant understand what im saying saying, then you may be the one who needs to take a little visit to reality...

As for this whole topic in general, who on here can really say what the leaders of Judaism, or Israel are really up to. How could anyone know, w/o having known personally or had private conversations with said leaders????

All anyone can do is make conjectures using the knowledge they have gained through research, or restate their own beliefs. As for the later, it dosent really add up under any type of scrutiny.

Ill close with this, for anyone to even try to say that Israel is some kind of angel of a country, that is kind and gentle and loving, is off there rocker. All one has to do is compare the casualties from the current $*@^storm that is going on between Israel and Palestine.

I believe that most jewish people are not Zionists, and that goes for jews all over the world, not just in Israel. But that does not mean that the people behind the scenes, running Israel are not crooked, corrupt scumbags either..And you can call me an Anti-Semite, but you better call me Anti-American too, because i think the american govt is just as bad, if not worse.


Just my .02$, which like i said, wouldnt stand up to scrutiny w/o me listing every piece of evidence I've read as evidence.


Peace

Originally posted by mybigunit
Jews comprise approximately 1%-2% of the population of the Western world*. So the probability that the heads of the World Bank, International Monetary Fund, and Bank for International Settlements would all be Jewish is infinitesimally small. You must ask yourself how such an incredibly small and extremely unrepresentative minority ethnic group could control all three of these important international banking institutions.

Your source for the Federal Reserve Board of Governors does not agree with what is currently sourced for the Board of Governors membership. You aren't being dishonest are you?

Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System

One listed on wikipedia is vacant. Another is an expired term (which is not listed on the actual FRB website). Two of those members are probably not Jewish.

But anyway, if it's a statistical question we're trying to ask....suppose we look at the complete lists of Boards of Governors, Directors, etc....and see if Jewish representation is anomalous.

World Bank Board of Governors and Alternates
IMF Executive Directors
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
Bank for International Settlements, Board of Directors
Directors of Federal Reserve Banks and Branches

Here's the hard part for you and the readers....you're gonna' need to slog through those lists to understand this next bit.

The Jewish membership of these groups actually looks outnumbered. And in fact, looks to be within statistical norms. Especially when there is a variable that restricts the sample to a specific career, specialty, or education. That restriction is critical, your question compares the total world population percentage to the percentage found in a very narrow subset. In short, the Jewish religion appears to be represented in this narrow subset of population by a percentage closely approximating the Jewish percentage you cited as worldwide...1-2%. It could be a bit higher....but statistics explain why, given the narrow range of variables.

So...No, I don't think it is a coincidence. I don't think anyone can argue that people of Jewish descent have a remarkable track record in the financial and business world. Why does it seem odd that one particular group has a tendency to rise to the top of their profession? Either through innate abiltiy or dogged persistence. Doesn't seem odd to me...white guys can't jump and are dramatically outnumbered in professional basketball. Conversely, there appear to be very few black Olympic swimmers. And that doesn't bother me....I don't think it's a cabal of sport manipulators.

For those of you who did not go to my link and read all of Pikes letter, you'll find that ultimately, it is a Luciferian conspiracy.

But with so many new agers and atheists who have been side tracked by the biggest deceiver of all time chasing the wrong clues, you took a pass on the war between good and evil.

Just look at what happened to the usa! We've been taken over by the money trusts, the money power, and I heard them say that it is everyones fault for the economy!!!! I immediately cursed out the radio and shut it off. They control the money and the people in power. The people are the victims.

Just like the wars. Whom is dragging whom off to war? Is it the people dragging the leaders off to war or is it them dragging us off to war?

Anyways even some believers have a hard time understanding all the nuances.

I suppose it's time to move on, since folks here don't seem to have any interest.

[edit on 14-3-2009 by toasted]

And those of you who are caught up in pointing out racists and bigots and haters, you are playing right into the hand of your own destruction. Has anyone ever told you that? Have you ever given it any thought at all?

You have bought into the manipulation!

It is going to destroy all of us, and you're oh so proud of yourselves too, for stabbing each other in the back! For limiting free speech! For making it a crime to be a human who has emotions!

Do you remember when people got leniency from the courts for a "crime of passion"? It was a crime in the heat of the moment! Instead of understanding, it's now treble punishment for being human! You think this is good?

What's going on here? You want to be robotic automatons with no feelings?

This is insanity to the Nth degree.

Are you proud now?

Give yourselves a star then.

This dog won't hunt that.

reply to post by toasted


So it is not only ok to be racist bigot and hater and even kill out of passion but it is what makes us Human???? Well - if this is your definition of Human i would rather be a manipulated robot. Like - do other things out of passion and not be a racist/bigot/hater.
Also it just looks great smearing people and claiming them to be lucifer and stuff, while all you can say about what is good in people is their above definition.

Protoplasmic Traveler wonderful post....well said and well thoughout i agree and you seem to suggest that there is a concentrated group at the top of the zionist movement that is nefariously moving toward a "world gov't " but they are simply a part of a bigger mass with their hands in many influencial groups. some seen and other unseen ...(let me know if i am wrong in this assesment)

it's a shame we have all this bickering when the bigger picture shows to (those of us with eyes to see) that our country (USA) is on the road to ruin via trillions of added debt in order to bailout irresponsible risk takers running company's too big too fail designed to be that way so they could take hostage of the Economy. Bernanke is not even an elected offical yet he has ran the national debt up trillions....and we are too trust this man...that the loans are pledged against "acceptable" collateral......one hundred and fifty (PLUS) nation's have been infected by similiar Central bank system's......who hijack a nation's monetary system and therefore can manage the economy (and politico's) with bribes and monetary policy's and/or dergulation........and have a interconnected system that spreads risk like a rash..... Some probably can't see this yet and maybe never will....but .....to those of us that can.... i think right now is a time when the financial powerz are most vulnerable coincidentaly and perhaps could have their plans delayed should enough people be able to voice their opinons to influential lawmakers who are having a moment of guilt..or possibly their conscience is getting the better of them

[edit on 14-3-2009 by cpdaman]

[edit on 14-3-2009 by cpdaman]

Just looking at that membership list of the Federal Reserve.

We all have proof now. People of Anglo-America extraction have been running the world, politically and economically for centuries.

How could a small group attain so much control over world affair and beliefs in such a short time?

No one achieves anything just by being smart and dedicated?

There must be some malign agenda?

Are they in some secret cabal? Are they agents of Lucifer?


Mike F

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge



I'm saying that things were ok prior to this manipulative PC [ marxist limited speech poison ] that has infected people like it was going to fix anything, it's not.

reply to post by mmiichael



" People of Anglo-America extraction have been running the world, politically and economically for centuries "

You're comparing apples to oranges.

How can one compare the puppets to the puppetmasts except though the cord that connects them?

reply to post by cpdaman


" it's a shame we have all this bickering "

Well , I get what you're saying, but it's ultimately a very clever plan, of divide and conquer.

We all see the enemy being in different places depending on the info we have, and this PC speech just makes it even harder to focus attention without being labelled a hater ,a bigot, an anti-semite, etc. It is quite insidious. As was satan in the garden.

Originally posted by SilentBob86

You know, that dosent make much sense, does it....

How would that make him dissociated from reality. Has he ever met you in person, do you know each other personally?

Nope, which is why it makes no sense to make those claims about me with that certainty.

If the answer is no, then you have proved some amount of ignorance.

If you cant understand what im saying saying, then you may be the one who needs to take a little visit to reality...

These dudes would agree with you:

On December 12, 2006, Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad personally brought to a close the infamous Holocaust deniers' conference in Tehran. A strange parade of speakers had passed across the podium: former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, the nutty followers of the anti-Zionist Jewish sect Neturei Karta, and officials of the neo-Nazi German National party, along with the familiar handful of professional Holocaust deniers.

Enough said.

[edit on 14-3-2009 by Skyfloating]

Originally posted by toasted
it even harder to focus attention without being labelled a hater ,a bigot, an anti-semite, etc. It is quite insidious. As was satan in the garden.

What do you expect someone is called who exclusively looks for wrong-doings of jews while ignoring any other race and who spouts nazi-tripe implying that Jews arent allowed to have money or be in higher positions?

reply to post by MrPenny


Im quite amazed at how nobody seems to care about your last post which wipes out the "Federal Reserve are belongs to da Joooos" "Theory".

Originally posted by cpdaman
Protoplasmic Traveler wonderful post....well said and well thoughout i agree and you seem to suggest that there is a concentrated group at the top of the zionist movement that is nefariously moving toward a "world gov't " but they are simply a part of a bigger mass with their hands in many influencial groups. some seen and other unseen ...(let me know if i am wrong in this assesment)

it's a shame we have all this bickering when the bigger picture shows to (those of us with eyes to see) that our country (USA) is on the road to ruin via trillions of added debt in order to bailout irresponsible risk takers running company's too big too fail designed to be that way so they could take hostage of the Economy. Bernanke is not even an elected offical yet he has ran the national debt up trillions....and we are too trust this man...that the loans are pledged against "acceptable" collateral......one hundred and fifty (PLUS) nation's have been infected by similiar Central bank system's......who hijack a nation's monetary system and therefore can manage the economy (and politico's) with bribes and monetary policy's and/or dergulation........and have a interconnected system that spreads risk like a rash..... Some probably can't see this yet and maybe never will....but .....to those of us that can.... i think right now is a time when the financial powerz are most vulnerable coincidentaly and perhaps could have their plans delayed should enough people be able to voice their opinons to influential lawmakers who are having a moment of guilt..or possibly their conscience is getting the better of them

[edit on 14-3-2009 by cpdaman]

[edit on 14-3-2009 by cpdaman]

In a nut shell yes, but if my summations are correct, and I must say that they are merely conclusions rooted in my own logic based on the events of history and world events and not anything I could prove in a court of law (especially until I pay this outstanding speeding ticket) there is a well coordinated very small group at the top.

It is not per say simply a Zionist conspiracy and it would be incorrect in my humble opinion to place the onus on the people of Hebrew faith as being the driving or controlling force behind it.

Think of the Game Candy Land for children. You start out on the board on the first spot and the object is to be the first one to reach the last spot.

The last spot in this game or plot is Zion or Jerusalem, but the way the plot was written in the religious texts the game is over and won, when a world wide leader known as the Anti-Christ sits on the thrown of the yet to be constructed Third Temple.

If my conclusions drawn from history are correct, it started out as an Alliance between the Elders of the Hebrew Tribes of Israel and their King and the Roman Emperor. While on the surface it makes little sense for the Hebrews to agree to the own destruction of their Kingdom too carry this out, such a maneuver may have possibly been attractive to them for two reasons. The first is historically the Habiru/Hapiri later known as the Hebrew bounced around all over the Middle East from the Mesopotamia Delta to Egypt. Much like they did after Diaspora began once Jerusalem was sacked by the Romans. In historical accounts written by the Babylonians, Assyrians and Egyptians, the Habiru/Hapiri represented a separate distinct ethnic class of people as they moved in and out of these different kingdoms that specialized in Usury, Trade, Mercenary activity, and Political and Business Advisers, Craftsman and Masons. In many cases the countries they wandered too and infiltrated would in fact end up being taken over for short periods of time by the Habiru/Hapiri including Babylon and Egypt, where eventually the indigenous people rebelled and expelled them. While Biblical History is far more plentiful than actual recorded history from the day there is strong evidence that suggests that the Hyksos Dynasty in Egypt were Habiru/Hapiri/Hebrew Pharaohs that Moses in fact was the last Pharaoh of that Dynasty and the Hebrew were expelled through violent revolution. From there they wandered into Canaan where during the rule of the Hyksos Pharaohs the Hapiri/Habiru at already begun to establish a power base. A little bit of warring resulted in them taking it over and creating Israel, but for a people intent on wandering in and out of other kingdoms and acquiring the wealth and knowledge the previous rulers had, this home likely would have not been too special to them. Keep in mind only 50 Elders know the exact Hebrew Religion in it's entirety and only hand it down orally to their appointed successors. G-d is specifically written to obscure at least one possibly more letters. Historically prior to Israel the Habiru/Hapiri were notorious for refusing to name their Gods, and there was thought to be more than one, and it was thought to be a very powerful collection of dieties that favored and protected the Habiru/Hapiri through out their wanderings. There is a reasonable chance that no one but the 50 Elders and a few who are partnered with them know the name of the G-d that they are actually worshiping. The chance to partner with Rome and ensure a continuation of the wealth Rome provided them through the usury they had already established in keeping the massive Roman War Machine and Infrastructure afloat would have been very attractive to them I imagine, when you add the fact that under this new system of Christianity imposed by Rome would be expandable and inexpensive to maintain.

Zion is just the starting point and the end point in a game that takes the major players all around the world to complete it's conquest.

By establishing the worlds second largest religion (Christianity) but the best organized based on a belief that the best thing that could ever happen is seeing a despot sitting on the throne back in Jerusalem for a brief tumultuous spell you are already preparing people for the last violent acts of consolidating power into a one world government. In other words tricking the people to be unwitting pawns in the whole plan through their entirely faith based religion. They knew it would have taken a very long time to accomplish all that based on current technology and Roman holdings in the world. By basing Christianity off of the Hebrew religion and making Israel and Jerusalem such an important spot in the distant future and prophecies of the Religion was virtually a guarantee that the Jews in Diaspora would never be forced to assimilate into the communities they were wandering into and setting up usury and commerce. They had a mythical reputation going for them and a unique quirky appearance and their presence would only serve to assure the Christians who had to take the religion on faith alone that the religion and deity involved was real, and Israel was real, because you could see the presence of a distinct group of people called Jews that the religion was based upon.

The English too as well as the Romans would have a special place in this plan because if correct and Christianity predates any record of Christianity in Israel or Rome then you have to bring at least one powerful group on the British Isles into it, in case even though great pains were taken to slaughter all the original practitioners and records of Christianity originating from there you never know when someone might stumble into some remote region and find historical reference of it. Having the monarchy on board in England to ensure that wouldn't happen would be essential in carrying out the plot.

It would have also been easier to then trust the English to be the first to break away to balance Rome's power. The English could never expose the plot and retain the people's trust, and hope to retain power, all parties are bound by the consequences of the deception being exposed...

Continued

Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by lee anoma

 

And since when are the true power players of the world openly published about in Vanity Fair?

Who are you referring to when you mention the "true power players"?
Who are they specifically?
Are they hidden and conspiratorial in nature?

I don't doubt they exist, but no the Illuminati has not come forward and stated that they covertly run the show, but in the world of the overt we can clearly point to the members of that list , as did the Jerusalem Post, as being part of the most powerful in the world as we know it.

Doesn't matter if it is published by Vanity Fair, it wouldn't be difficult to come to such a conclusion in the real world.

Paranoid or possibly legitimate conspiracies aside.

- Lee

Originally posted by Skyfloating
They know to discern between small religious pockets within their borders and what they perceive to be the "Jewish World Conspiracy" which involves "The Holocaust is fake", "America is Satan" and "Jews have no business being in Israel".

You make it look as though this is not prevalent in that country. It is. And its based on disinformation.

I'm not making it look like anything.

I said there is bigotry and discrimination in Iran, I am not part of your idea of an anti-Jewish conspiracy group.

From the media impression I get and from Israel herself, the leader of Iran is the new Hitler; a rabid Jew hater bent on wiping Israel off the map. Your impression from what I understand, seems to be that he doesn't hate all Jews and is able to discern between them, and specifically what he feels Israel represents to their country as an illegal occupation from a "Zionist" regime.

That is actually what he was saying himself.

These obscure religious groups hardly represent the majority of Jews. And again: What definition of Zionism are they against?

There are two definitions: One is the World-Conspiracy-Theory and one is the Israeli-Oppression Theory. When Joe Biden says "I am a Zionist" or they say "Jews against Zionism" they are not referring to the World-conspiracy-theory but to Israeli Occupation/Settlement.

No, they also refer to that as part of a conspiracy which they have attempted to document to some extent.

You may diminish them however you choose but the issue I was raising was that we clearly have a group of Jews that reject Zionism. You seemed to make that an impossibility since you felt it can't be done without hating all Jews in general. I see you have clearly separated the definitions of Zionism so now it may actually be a possibility.

However small they may seem to you, again, is it possible to resent Zionism and not the Jews since clearly some Jews do?

I bet that the most vocal critics of successful people would just love to be on that list themselves.

I'm not sure I understand what that means, exactly.
Are you saying I am jealous of successful people?

Sorry I'm not sure.

- Lee

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Continued...once the House of Dan under the Rothschild Family consolidated power through control of the Monetary system in Germany and were able to gain exclusive access to King Rupert's Hessian Mercenaries of Prussia letting Martin Luther break away another splinter movement from Rome would have been safe and opened the doors for Germany to play a pivotal role in furthering the plot.

Most of the founding Fathers of the United States were English and German Masons. Their job was to deceive the masses of Europe through a staged war that the Colonies of England in America had revolted and successfully established their own society ruled by freemen with no Monarchy. The first since the days of the Roman Republic. In reality it was merely an incorporation of the United States under England but it set two critical pieces in motion. The first and most important was to siphon off the excess humanity that the agrarian system of commerce had no need for and the still too young industrialization of the world did not yet need. This allowed for most of Europe's malcontents to exit through indentured servitude to take pressure off the existing monarchies. It also set the seed for popular revolt to remove the system of monarchy eliminating some of the partners in the plan along the way who might have amassed enough wealth to begin having other ideas. It would also serve to create the illusion that people were growing freer as opposed to more enslaved.

The United States would play a pivotal role once established, it would continue to draw revolutionary elements away from Europe to provide stability to the governments meant to keep standing and provide them a home instead with a complete illusion of freedom. The people of America once firmly established, populated and industrialized would become the replacement for the Hessian. They would be much more numerous and fight all the harder because they would always see themselves fighting for freedom as free men.

This is why Washington D.C., along with London and the Vatican City would all become independent City/State districts. Washington D.C. is not part of the United States but is a seat to our government and governed exclusively by congress. London is not part of England but is an independent city state still governed by the Monarch of England. The Vatican City is not part of Italy but a separate City State governed by the Pope, the Holy Roman Emperor, who is protected still to this day by the Swiss Guard and Rothschild banking administers it's formidable wealth.

I do not think Jews are any more aware of their unique role than Christians are. The Fifty Elders of the Tribes yes, who know the name of their G-d are. I doubt a politician in Israel is aware of the grand plan in an informed way.

The Monarch in England most certainly knows because of the trusted role the English had to play in providing Christ for Christians. It is rumored that if a third Temple is built and it is built in our Life Time that Prince William will sit on that throne. Because Christ came from the Emerald Isle, so too will the Anti-Christ as part of the bargain.

As far as in the United States I suspect no one but Rockefeller and possibly the chairman of the Federal Reserve know for sure, Senior Bush may know as well as individuals in the Carnegie, Mellon, DuPont, Warberg and Morgan families. It is possible the Chairman of the Federal Reserve knows, that they do not come and go with a change in political party but stay on pretty much for life suggests a power behind the throne of the pageantry of the office of President.

In my humble opinion the only time the United States of America was truly free and independent and it was never meant to be truly free and independent was for a brief period leading up to the War of 1812, when the founding Fathers had all died off and the next generation tried to break the deal with London. The British marched in burned Washington and reestablished the corporation and then feigned defeat like in the Revolutionary war.

Lincoln tried to free all the slaves, both known and unknown and received a bullet in the back of his head for the attempt. The blacks were successfully granted the illusion of freedom but all of us would still suffer under it's invisible yoke in the conspiracy to create a one world government.

Washington and the powerful American Mercenary State would be granted the best scientists from all over the world to build and give our arsenal an edge by both offering the illusion of freedom to the world's greatest minds and importing other great minds like Nazi scientists when the regimes they were originally serving had played out their part. This is why the power of the Vatican was used to secrete them out of Germany despite the key role they had played in the horror of World War II. They would be incorporated into our Space and Defense Industries to work instead.

America well protected by the oceans that surround it and separated from the plots twists and betrayers in Europe who would occasionally imagine they had a shot at independence because they were unaware of how vast the conspiracy was could be mobilized through its industrial base, built specifically to win the Civil War through a forced draft of the citizens in the army and thought controlled through the press as to the need for the cause of freedom and liberty to do so.

So in reality the Zionist conspiracy just has Zion as the goal post. There is nothing exclusively Jewish about it. The descendants of the tribes elders play a key role and only a few of them. That the Jews kept in the dark about the overall plan would vigorously fight for their mythical homeland is no surprise. They don't need to be aware of it.

The top Masons, Skull and Bones members, CFR Members, British Monarchs, a few relics in the Knights of Columbus and the Knights of Malta, a few wealthy Americans, a few wealthy Europeans all trusted because their families have long been part of the plot and sizable wealth is entrusted under their corporate umbrella is really all who truly know most every disparate piece of the puzzle. I imagine though only the British Monarch, Lord Rothschild and Senator Rockefeller know every detail as it unfolds.

Even at the top levels of the Masons, Skull and Bones, CIA and MOSSAD they would only be told as much as needed to plot out the next step they have been given to achieve.

It would all be highly compartmentalized with just a very select and limited few knowing every piece of the puzzle.

That's how I would exploit the situation to take over the world.

It makes more sense to me than believing in the invisible deity no one ever sees or can prove does anything.

By better arming Christian's and Christian nations and making the religion so populace and the crowning event of the religion is seeing the Anti-Christ sit on the Throne of the Third Temple briefly before Jesus returns you virtually ensure that the masses are going to go along with the plan.

By pitting the worlds largest religion that is not so well equipped in a battle between Christianity and Islam over the right to Israel to exist which is vital for Jesus to return you basically guarantee both sects will be close to eliminated in the process.

That's the way the game is set up and in reality anyone who could be the first to place a King on the Throne in Jerusalem in the third Temple would win the game.

The final stop is Zion but I doubt more than a few people who are members of the Zionist movement know. They are all dupes, we are all dupes, pawns on a chess board, unaware of the game or the rules.

It's easy to single out and hate the Jews because of their highly visible part in it, but they are dupes too.

A few wealthy Hebrews a Roman Emperor, A British Monarch, and a couple Wealthy Wasps in America.

That's it.

[edit on 14/3/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

Originally posted by lee anoma

Who are you referring to when you mention the "true power players"?
Who are they specifically?
Are they hidden and conspiratorial in nature?

The power players, the puppet masters, the grand conspirators. Yes. Im not saying they dont exist. Im saying that "They are the jooos" is disinformation.

How I know? People writing about "The Jewish Conspiracy" dont get killed.
People writing about other conspiracies do get killed.

Thats a good barometer if you wanna detect where trouble is coming from.