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Also, if women are soo bad. Try giving yourself a bj... not as much fun on your own
Originally posted by mlmijyd
reply to post by sinister_scarecrow
I don't think that the thinking women actually know the origins of their movement (CIA) and that their 'struggle' for equality has only resulted in them being equal slaves with their male counterparts. The women have fought for the right to pay equal unlawful taxes and their right to slave with men in the Elites corporate world at the expense of family and proper mothering of children. Oh, controversial....
Originally posted by geo1066
firstread.msnbc.msn.com...
"But at the same time, when women still earn just 78 cents for every dollar men make, when one in four women still experiences domestic violence in their lifetimes, when women are more than half of our population but just 17% of our Congress," he said before signing the order. "When women are 49% of the workforce but only 3% of our fortune 500 CEOs, when these inequalities stubbornly persist in this country in this century then I think we need to ask ourselves some hard question and we need to take a hard look at where were falling short and who were leaving out and what that means for the prosperity and the vitality of our nation."
I just love stats! Where do they get these numbers from and why are they what they are?
I feel the reason is because man, all through history, has been the provider and protecter of his household and family whereas women are the caregivers of such. That's just nature.
Now I'm all for equality in the workforce as long it's based on merit not race,creed,religion,color or gender. When we passed the law on equality in the gov't and education scholarships, we lost alot of qualified people, both women and men, due to not being in a minority class. Look at our workforce today. Just go down to any store and ask an employee a question that may have to make them think and see what answer you get. Heck, when I was 16(mid 70's) I had to take an aplitude test to see if I was qualified to stock shelves and push a broom!
"The council, which will meet regularly, will include members of the Cabinet and of several other agencies and will be led by senior aide Valerie Jarrett. Tina Tchen, deputy assistant to the president and director of the Office of Public Liaison at the White House, will serve as the executive director."
Now I don't know if this is an all woman panel but if it is, it would tend to be gender bias. If Obama wants these numbers to be equal, who raises the children? The State?
I think Obama should have thought it through. If he wanted to spend more taxpayers money on another gov't dept. it sould have been "The Men and Women's Colalition on Gender Equality based on Merit."
Sinister_ Scarecrow-
Man, I hope your wearing your kevlar protective suit!
[edit on 12-3-2009 by geo1066]
Originally posted by The Savage Khan
Originally posted by sinister_scarecrow
Originally posted by The Savage Khan
What ignorant nonsense. Feminists taking over? Where? I don't see any bills passing through congress about putting the toilet seat down. Of all the things happening in this world (threat of war, a tanking economy, climate change) this is the evil you are bring to our attention, your call to arms against the feminists? Wake up buddy, there are men in this world who want to kill you and everyone you know, some of them live in places where women can't even show their skin in public. This country would be just like that if it weren't for the feminists. Respect. A nation is like a child, it needs the nurture of a mother and father figure. Thank god Mommy's stepping up cause Daddy hasn't been doing a very good job and the kids need some love ASAP!
LOL. Respect? Nurture? Love? All of this coming from someone with a name called "SAVAGE KHAN" It's the things you don't say sometimes that give your true nature away
You mister Sinister prove that ignorance and lack of education go hand and hand. My name is a nod to the Noble Savage and the character from "Brave New World". Civility produces too many people with cognitive disorders. I prefer the good old days when people got angry for real life and death reasons instead of sitting in their homes and yelling at the TV because of some propaganda made by people with similar disorders.
You didn't address my argument, and chose instead to attack my character, classic school yard response. I think it's because, as you can see by the responses on this thread, your argument is weak.
Originally posted by Tayesin
I don't have a problem with women seeking to be held as equal to men. For me all people are equal. And I think it time men are also allowed to be equal to women. We should not have to choose between only two choices.. the Sensitive New Age Guy or the Traditional Cave Man Guy. I choose to be Me.
So Obama has given the women a voice, what have they taken from you?
Originally posted by sinister_scarecrow
Originally posted by andy1033
Thats bull what about females that go to police and and accuse a male of rape, who never even touched them.
Originally posted by andy1033
That man has no chance what so ever, so you live in the real world. Females get to much protection already, and they can murder any male they want, and the police and government will kill any male for them, period.
According to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports, 1,055 women and 287 men were murdered by their intimate partners in 2005. These figures are striking, because in the past, in the 1970s and earlier, the numbers of men and women so victimized were about even. In other words, there has been a significant decline in the numbers of men killed by their partners but not for women.
The number of men who were murdered by intimates dropped by 75% between 1976 and 2005 (BJS). The number of black females murdered in this time has declined but the number of white females murdered has dropped only by 6%. Statistics Canada (1998, 2005), similarly, reveals a sharp decline in the numbers of male domestic homicide victims but not of female victims of homicide.
The reason that women are resorting less to murder of their partners is most likely because many of these women were battered women who felt trapped in a dangerous situation. Today, the presence of violence prevention programming and the availability of shelters are paving the way to other options. The fact that domestic violence services apparently are saving the lives of more men than women is a positive, though unintended consequence of the women’s shelter movement (see van Wormer and Bartollas, 2007).
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
Brilliantly said, Tayesin. I would be utterly opposed to a "female run" world. Just as I am opposed to a male dominated world. What about balance? What about just letting human beings be what they are? What about just setting aside agendas, and constricting roles, and allowing humans to develop into their own truest selves?
Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
reply to post by sinister_scarecrow
As a man in a "man's world" on a feminine planet, I for one are grateful this planet will be returning into a feminine state of affairs.
As men we have completely and utterly farked this planet like no other - Mars does come to mind for some reason.
We have held women back. We have hurt them by not being real men in letting the feminine nature of Earth (Gaia) rule in all its nurturing ways.
No doubt men like you will continue to cling to false outdated beliefs like you have stated, and I truly feel sorry for you. Surely there are far more important topics that you could 'worry' about?
The masculine has had its chance - the earth demands her femininity back. Now.
wZn
Originally posted by daeoeste
I am sorry that I do not know how to spell these bags names.
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
Originally posted by andy1033
Thats bull what about females that go to police and and accuse a male of rape, who never even touched them.
What about all the men who rape women and the women are so afraid of their entire sexual history dragged through the courts and used to humiliate them they never report it? Or the men who molest 2 year olds who cant complain to the cops? There are two sides to every issue if you arent so completely biased by your own sad story of "real life" that you cannot see the other side. Some men are victimized by women. Some women are victimized by men. Men are not victimized in larger numbers, and if you claim they are, prove it. Post some back up.
Originally posted by andy1033
That man has no chance what so ever, so you live in the real world. Females get to much protection already, and they can murder any male they want, and the police and government will kill any male for them, period.
So, by your logic, the more rights and freedoms women have, the more women will be murdering men and getting away with it? Ok. That should be easy to check. Lets do it.
www.helpstartshere.org...
According to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports, 1,055 women and 287 men were murdered by their intimate partners in 2005. These figures are striking, because in the past, in the 1970s and earlier, the numbers of men and women so victimized were about even. In other words, there has been a significant decline in the numbers of men killed by their partners but not for women.
The number of men who were murdered by intimates dropped by 75% between 1976 and 2005 (BJS). The number of black females murdered in this time has declined but the number of white females murdered has dropped only by 6%. Statistics Canada (1998, 2005), similarly, reveals a sharp decline in the numbers of male domestic homicide victims but not of female victims of homicide.
The reason that women are resorting less to murder of their partners is most likely because many of these women were battered women who felt trapped in a dangerous situation. Today, the presence of violence prevention programming and the availability of shelters are paving the way to other options. The fact that domestic violence services apparently are saving the lives of more men than women is a positive, though unintended consequence of the women’s shelter movement (see van Wormer and Bartollas, 2007).
IN 2007, it was 1044 women murdered by boyfriends and husbands, and 288 men murdered by wives and girlfriends. Data taken directly from the FBI Uniform Crime Reports.
www.fbi.gov...
Hardly striking evidence that women's rights is leading to men being shot down like dogs in the street with cops sitting by eating doughnuts and egging them on.
I dont mind living in the real world, since you use that term. But how about joining us here?
Originally posted by sinister_scarecrow
You forgot, they can also become teachers and rape underage children in school and the courts will let them get away with it "Because they are too pretty to go to jail"....(Quote from the judge in the Debra Lafave case)
With the Bobbitt case long since over, and the frenzy over the O. J. Simpson case dragging into its fifth month, legal experts on domestic violence, women's advocacy groups and tabloid television shows have fixed their attention on the case of a Maryland man who killed his wife after finding her in bed with another man.
He pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter, but his sentencing on Monday in Baltimore County Circuit Court set off protests. Judge Robert E. Cahill sentenced Mr. Peacock to 18 months in prison, saying that he wished he did not have to send him to prison at all, but knew he must "to make the system honest."
A Sanford jury Thursday convicted a 33-year-old woman of having sex with a 5-year-old boy. Kelly Lumadue was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Jurors on Tuesday watched videotape of the sex acts, which happened 12 years ago when Lumadue lived in Longwood with her husband, a professional pornographer who recorded the session. He has since died. Kelly Lumadue testified this week that she performed those sex acts under duress from her husband. She wasn't arrested until 2003, seven years after the recordings were made, when a garbage collector found the tapes at the curb outside Lumadue's Volusia County home. They were among videotapes she had thrown out. It was Lumadue's second trial on the charges. A jury last year found her guilty, but a judge ordered a new trial.
Originally posted by sinister_scarecrow
Now watch this magic trick where the women come in and make justifications and separate themselves and all other women from this one case despite the fact this happens all the time. They will try to water this case down and make it seem like a singularity amongst all of the great things women are doing for all mankind,.....
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
Originally posted by sinister_scarecrow
You forgot, they can also become teachers and rape underage children in school and the courts will let them get away with it "Because they are too pretty to go to jail"....(Quote from the judge in the Debra Lafave case)
One idiot judge does not a conspiracy against men in favor of women make. Counter examples can easily be provided. The case;
Article
With the Bobbitt case long since over, and the frenzy over the O. J. Simpson case dragging into its fifth month, legal experts on domestic violence, women's advocacy groups and tabloid television shows have fixed their attention on the case of a Maryland man who killed his wife after finding her in bed with another man.
The punch line; (from the same article)
He pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter, but his sentencing on Monday in Baltimore County Circuit Court set off protests. Judge Robert E. Cahill sentenced Mr. Peacock to 18 months in prison, saying that he wished he did not have to send him to prison at all, but knew he must "to make the system honest."
Is this proof that men can murder their cheating wives and expect a slap on the wrist from a sympathetic judge? I dont think so. It is proof that idiot judges exist. Much like your case shows.
You can pull any ONE case out of the ether and make just about any point in the world you want to make. If you want to allege that women are being habitually let off easy for abusing children, you need to show a pattern that supports that. Because other cases can be provided that show the opposite of what you are claiming.
Florida Sentinel Article
A Sanford jury Thursday convicted a 33-year-old woman of having sex with a 5-year-old boy. Kelly Lumadue was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Jurors on Tuesday watched videotape of the sex acts, which happened 12 years ago when Lumadue lived in Longwood with her husband, a professional pornographer who recorded the session. He has since died. Kelly Lumadue testified this week that she performed those sex acts under duress from her husband. She wasn't arrested until 2003, seven years after the recordings were made, when a garbage collector found the tapes at the curb outside Lumadue's Volusia County home. They were among videotapes she had thrown out. It was Lumadue's second trial on the charges. A jury last year found her guilty, but a judge ordered a new trial.
[edit on 12-3-2009 by Illusionsaregrander]